Just leaving this here

Not offended, this is a message board, nice misdirection... Didn't need to quote you, you continually post like Richt has nothing to do with our offensive woes. Just quoting one of your MANY post saying as such and saying it's not all about him but you act like none of its on him.

When you can find a post where I say that Richt has nothing to do with our offensive woes I'll pay for your next weave.
 
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What's missing is the win/loss %. Dorsey has 2 losses? He might of had more talen on the team, but he was one of the smartest qbs I've watched.
 
The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.
 
The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.
 
I agree with Franchise, Kaaya has cement feet but if he's the best QB we got it's Richt's job to get him firing on rythm. Some of it's been Richt play calling, some of it's on the OL, some of it's on Kaaya, and some of it's on the wr/te's dropping passes but at the end of the day it's really all on him.

All that aside my real issue with Kaaya is his lack of leadership. He just doesn't have that swag confidence go for the kill I'm taking this over type leadership. But again, if he's our QB it's Richt's job to find out what's best and make it work which he ain't doing.

Dorsey would throw a duck and be on the sidelines like "****** I don't care how bad my pass is you catch it" lol. Berlin would get that fire in him to do whatever it took to win. Even Jacory had a little dog swag in him, not much but a little.

I was watching Green Bay vs Dallas on Sunday and if Brad Kaaya had as much time as Aaron Rodgers does to pass he would be shredding it. But he doesn't and that's for Richt to figure out something to make it work. He's got faults but he is still a very good QB and the best one on the team.

Unfortunately, too many people fall into the trap that this guy is in, thinking that coaches control everything and if a kid fails it's the coach's fault. How many examples do we need to give around here before people realize that it's about the players? Malzahn, Dantonio, Patterson, Meyer, Sumlin, etc. When those guys don't have the players, they don't win. There isn't a single coach out there who takes crap and turns it into a winner. But if it helps you people cope, by all means, put it all on Richt's shoulders in his first six games with someone else's roster.
Am I missing the sarcasm in this post? Urban Meyer went 12 - 0 with an Ohio State team that went 6 - 7 (and lost to Al Golden) the previous year. He is the textbook example of why coaching trumps everything else. Similarly, Texas A&M was 7 - 6 the year before Sumlin took over. They went 11 - 2 in his first season as HC. Ask Michigan fans if they think coaching matters.

Do you really think TCU has more talent than Miami? Does Miami not have enough talent to score more points against UNC than James Madison? Yes, players still need to execute but it is the coaches job to fix mistakes and put the players in the best position to win. The bottom line is Richt hasn't done that the last two weeks.

What you fail to mention is that Ohio State was 12-1 the year before they went 6-7. It's not like Meyer took over a team that was averaging 6-8 wins a year for a decade. He took over a team that was 12-1, 11-2, 10-3, 11-2 (lost in national title game), 12-1, 10-2, 8-4, 11-2, 14-0. Meyer is a great coach, but he didn't reinvent the wheel at OSU.

Exactly!

Ohio State fans will tell you there is no way that team was as bad as their record indicated. Luke Fickell was in WAY OVER his head as the interim HC when Tressel resigned.
This post actually proves my point. Coaching matters.
 
Unfortunately, too many people fall into the trap that this guy is in, thinking that coaches control everything and if a kid fails it's the coach's fault. How many examples do we need to give around here before people realize that it's about the players? Malzahn, Dantonio, Patterson, Meyer, Sumlin, etc. When those guys don't have the players, they don't win. There isn't a single coach out there who takes crap and turns it into a winner. But if it helps you people cope, by all means, put it all on Richt's shoulders in his first six games with someone else's roster.
Am I missing the sarcasm in this post? Urban Meyer went 12 - 0 with an Ohio State team that went 6 - 7 (and lost to Al Golden) the previous year. He is the textbook example of why coaching trumps everything else. Similarly, Texas A&M was 7 - 6 the year before Sumlin took over. They went 11 - 2 in his first season as HC. Ask Michigan fans if they think coaching matters.

Do you really think TCU has more talent than Miami? Does Miami not have enough talent to score more points against UNC than James Madison? Yes, players still need to execute but it is the coaches job to fix mistakes and put the players in the best position to win. The bottom line is Richt hasn't done that the last two weeks.

What you fail to mention is that Ohio State was 12-1 the year before they went 6-7. It's not like Meyer took over a team that was averaging 6-8 wins a year for a decade. He took over a team that was 12-1, 11-2, 10-3, 11-2 (lost in national title game), 12-1, 10-2, 8-4, 11-2, 14-0. Meyer is a great coach, but he didn't reinvent the wheel at OSU.

Exactly!

Ohio State fans will tell you there is no way that team was as bad as their record indicated. Luke Fickell was in WAY OVER his head as the interim HC when Tressel resigned.
This post actually proves my point. Coaching matters.

Yes, it does, and Meyer is a great coach, but, and this was my point....Meyer did not take over a team devoid of talent, or lacking depth. He took over a team and a program that had been competing for national titles for a decade. I'm not saying Miami has no talent, but to compare what Meyer took over at OSU and what Richt took over here is laughable.
 
The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.

You're far too smart for this chise. You're taking words & twisting them instead of using context or comprehension. Nowhere did I say ALL or EVERYONE of them... I SAID ON AVERAGE. They're is always gonna be some kids who are just that dude regardless of where they are from. I didn't figure that needed to be said as I don't feel the vast majority of people on here are complete morons. That's genetics or God at work. A hometown will never change that. Sorry I didn't specify enough for you. P.s. since you really wanna go there in order for the coach to call all of these plays you wanna see you should try to swing a Lil harder on brad to where maybe he can complete a pass in any play or better yet maybe you can jump on the line & be an extra blocker who can open up a hole for the running game or pass protect to buy a half second for a play to actually develop & brad could throw an incompletion. Act like you understand football chise. Same way people are complaining about rpo. He's running that because defenses aren't respecting anything were doing. We have to show options at the line to give extra looks. Maybe brads reads will finally catch up.
 
Coaching is everything. Urban took over OSU under re-building like circumstances & didn't lose a game in 2 years. Richt needs to get rid of his son & get us a nice innovative OC. Were good on D. You can see improvements at every level. GET US AN OC!!!
 
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The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.

You're far too smart for this chise. You're taking words & twisting them instead of using context or comprehension. Nowhere did I say ALL or EVERYONE of them... I SAID ON AVERAGE. They're is always gonna be some kids who are just that dude regardless of where they are from. I didn't figure that needed to be said as I don't feel the vast majority of people on here are complete morons. That's genetics or God at work. A hometown will never change that. Sorry I didn't specify enough for you. P.s. since you really wanna go there in order for the coach to call all of these plays you wanna see you should try to swing a Lil harder on brad to where maybe he can complete a pass in any play or better yet maybe you can jump on the line & be an extra blocker who can open up a hole for the running game or pass protect to buy a half second for a play to actually develop & brad could throw an incompletion. Act like you understand football chise. Same way people are complaining about rpo. He's running that because defenses aren't respecting anything were doing. We have to show options at the line to give extra looks. Maybe brads reads will finally catch up.

No, he's really not....but that's neither here nor there. His football accumen, let's just say it's amateur at best.

Coley, I said it back then and I'll say it now as well. He wasn't anywhere near as bad as people make him out to be. He's not anything special either, has some to learn for sure, but people still label him worse than he was.

Coley typically had productive starts to his games, even to the half in a lot of cases. Where he ran into problems was at the half where our opponents would adjust. He wasn't good at making adjustments or was he possibly hampered by BK?

He called what worked for BK. We would be better offensively right now if we ran the offense the way he did. He did allow for BK to audible, that in hindsight seems like it may have been a mistake as BK doesn't make quick or correct decisions as we've seen this year. Last year, people were putting it on Coley since that was the easy thing to do. Not knowing what is called, what the audible call was, its tough to say where the breakdown is a lot of times.

Richt is trying to expand upon what BK can do and it isn't working. I'm not saying Richt is all right in this, but this will be another nail in that first round mularky people were trying to sell leading up to the season. Poor footwork, pocket awareness, not good under center, slow as molasses, and doesn't make quick decisions. That's not first round material.

Keep him in the gun and mask his deficiencies with 3 or 4 WR/TE sets and a back coming out of the backfield. That's how you have to use him as he hasn't shown he is effective any other way.
 
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The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.

You're far too smart for this chise. You're taking words & twisting them instead of using context or comprehension. Nowhere did I say ALL or EVERYONE of them... I SAID ON AVERAGE. They're is always gonna be some kids who are just that dude regardless of where they are from. I didn't figure that needed to be said as I don't feel the vast majority of people on here are complete morons. That's genetics or God at work. A hometown will never change that. Sorry I didn't specify enough for you. P.s. since you really wanna go there in order for the coach to call all of these plays you wanna see you should try to swing a Lil harder on brad to where maybe he can complete a pass in any play or better yet maybe you can jump on the line & be an extra blocker who can open up a hole for the running game or pass protect to buy a half second for a play to actually develop & brad could throw an incompletion. Act like you understand football chise. Same way people are complaining about rpo. He's running that because defenses aren't respecting anything were doing. We have to show options at the line to give extra looks. Maybe brads reads will finally catch up.

Why is Brad suddenly terrible in your opinion? Why are the same guys on the OL who are a year older and who have an extra year of working together and being better conditioned doing worse than last year?

You were bragging about our team and our players and how dynamic we were going to be offensively. Now, you're making it seem like we have a team full of bums who can't play. What happened?
 
The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.

You're far too smart for this chise. You're taking words & twisting them instead of using context or comprehension. Nowhere did I say ALL or EVERYONE of them... I SAID ON AVERAGE. They're is always gonna be some kids who are just that dude regardless of where they are from. I didn't figure that needed to be said as I don't feel the vast majority of people on here are complete morons. That's genetics or God at work. A hometown will never change that. Sorry I didn't specify enough for you. P.s. since you really wanna go there in order for the coach to call all of these plays you wanna see you should try to swing a Lil harder on brad to where maybe he can complete a pass in any play or better yet maybe you can jump on the line & be an extra blocker who can open up a hole for the running game or pass protect to buy a half second for a play to actually develop & brad could throw an incompletion. Act like you understand football chise. Same way people are complaining about rpo. He's running that because defenses aren't respecting anything were doing. We have to show options at the line to give extra looks. Maybe brads reads will finally catch up.

Why is Brad suddenly terrible in your opinion? Why are the same guys on the OL who are a year older and who have an extra year of working together and being better conditioned doing worse than last year?

You were bragging about our team and our players and how dynamic we were going to be offensively. Now, you're making it seem like we have a team full of bums who can't play. What happened?

This guy is gonna sit here and act like he wasn't sippin every bit of the Kool aid during spring and fall camp

Sorry dude, but you were the one touting this monster of an offense with kayaa putting up video game numbers and walking around with a smirk on his face more than anyone

Fact remains, none of these players had and now have proven **** and this o line remains the same fcs trash they were last season
 
Stats don't tell the whole story in college football. When there is a huge talent disparity in half the games you play, of course a good QB is going to put up solid numbers. You gotta look at Brad's stats at more of a micro-level.

Stats don't define signature wins, game-winning drives, mental/physical toughness, and the will to win that guys like Ken Dorsey had.

Brock fvckin Berlin never let FSU beat him. Kaaya is 0-3 against them and in games in which twice he could've beaten them on the final drive. That is the kinda stuff that can't be measured on an excel spreadsheet.

Couldn't have said it any better.

No, my larger point is that Kaaya can go on and break all the passing records at UM but what substance do all those stats carry if he hasn't had a career-defining moment? For example, he posted 368 yards and 3 TDs against AppSt, monster numbers against sub-par competition.

Yes, Dorsey had the greatest team in CFB history but he beat a #1 ranked FSU, #2 ranked VaTech, and the #7 ranked Florida team all in the same year. Led the team to 34 consecutive wins and what should've been back-to-back national championships.

I want Brad to go out and do it against teams that matter...
I loved Dorsey when he was here and wish Kaaya would have the career-defining moment. As you mention, Dorsey also had several advantages from a team talent standpoint that helped him be so successful. One that was huge was an OL that only allowed him to be sacked about 8 times in an entire season. That same OL also run blocked for some of the best RBs in UM's history. That, in turn, also opened up the passing game and made teams respect play-action. I honestly think that Dorsey with this team's talent and play calling would likely be about as good as Kaaya.
 
The generalizations about where good tough QBs come from are funny. There's zero science behind any of that.

Brad was better his first two years here. He got worse in Rick's system as a 3rd year starter, and the offense is significantly worse against the same P5 teams compared to last year.

That's not the way it's supposed to happen. So quit trying to deflect any responsibility for this decline away from Rick.

Brad SHOULD BE better than he was last year. And the same OL unit from last year SHOULD BE better than they were last year.

That's the way it's supposed to work even if you don't fire the incompetent amateur OC and replace him with a 30 year coaching vet who you're paying $4M. Even if Coley had stayed, your player are SUPPOSED TO get better with more experience and physical and emotional maturity and strength.

So clearly you're one of those people who then laughs when it's said we need to lock down our own backyard. Don't be a hypocrite. Fact is some places produce certain types of players MORE OFTEN than others. Call it a science or anything you want. It's like being a hockey player & using your #1 pick on a cuban... you take someone from Canada or the eastern block (Russia,eukrain,Lithonia etc.)each & every time. **** outta here with that. You don't need science to notice a long standing trend. As I said just Google top 10 qbs all time from Pennsylvania & compare it to any other state.

You're right. Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Ron Paulus, and Joe Montana came from PA. Therefore, Brad Kaaya and every other QB from CA sucks. My bad.

What does locking down our backyard have to do with any of this and me being a hypocrite? Kaaya was better the last 2 years under Coley, who was a rank amateur.

P.S. When are they opening up that playbook? It was supposed to be FSU but it was windy for 2 days during that week of practice.

You're far too smart for this chise. You're taking words & twisting them instead of using context or comprehension. Nowhere did I say ALL or EVERYONE of them... I SAID ON AVERAGE. They're is always gonna be some kids who are just that dude regardless of where they are from. I didn't figure that needed to be said as I don't feel the vast majority of people on here are complete morons. That's genetics or God at work. A hometown will never change that. Sorry I didn't specify enough for you. P.s. since you really wanna go there in order for the coach to call all of these plays you wanna see you should try to swing a Lil harder on brad to where maybe he can complete a pass in any play or better yet maybe you can jump on the line & be an extra blocker who can open up a hole for the running game or pass protect to buy a half second for a play to actually develop & brad could throw an incompletion. Act like you understand football chise. Same way people are complaining about rpo. He's running that because defenses aren't respecting anything were doing. We have to show options at the line to give extra looks. Maybe brads reads will finally catch up.

Why is Brad suddenly terrible in your opinion? Why are the same guys on the OL who are a year older and who have an extra year of working together and being better conditioned doing worse than last year?

You were bragging about our team and our players and how dynamic we were going to be offensively. Now, you're making it seem like we have a team full of bums who can't play. What happened?

That's not at all what I'm doing. I'm not explaining myself accurately if that's how I'm coming across. Brad isn't terrible at all. The facts are he's playing with a shoulder that keeps popping out. He's hurt. As a result of that he has very happy feet. He's scared to get hit & that's making him go back to the usual which is **** footwork & short arming throws. He's a kid who really needs repetition in order for him to strive. Right now he has no repetition & that's because it's basically suicide to keep him in the pocket. Our oline for whatever reason is very basic right now & it's the root of our problems. I know a couple of them are hurt up. But honestly I don't know the ins & outs of oline play enough to explain the problem. My one other complaint would be right now (& this is equally on richt )our relievers far too often are getting zero separation which doesn't make it any easier for brad. He's regressing to a certain extent but there is reasons for it. I still believe overall in our offense. If we can figure out blocking assignments you'll see more diversity. As always my thing has been how much better this defense will be from last year.
 
I honestly think that Dorsey with this team's talent and play calling would likely be about as good as Kaaya.

LOLOLOLOL...If Armstrong,Watson, or Jackson were our QB, we'd be 7-0 or 6-1 right now.

I don't disagree with that at all. All athletic QB's that can make plays with their feet. Where does Dorsey fit in that group?
 
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Kaaya behind that 2001 line would not throw an incomplete pass.
Dorsey behind the 2016 line would be in ICU!
No incomplete passes?
:jordan:

You think the level of competition Kaaya is playing against is on par with those during the Dorsey years?
 
throw that W-L stats up there and you would find out that the previous stats are Kaaka
 
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