Joe Yearby

[kendallcanes]

They should allow him to come back and run with the practice squad as part of the (scholarship to get his degree) to help the team. Seems fair in my book. Plus, it could set him up in the system as a player/coach as a potential career path.

 

[QuattroCane]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

Based on your postings you're the type of person that enables these kids to think they're owed something because they're good at a sport.

They are...especially since they were EEs, recruited for you when they were in HS, and never got into any trouble...yeah, the school should foot the bill if they want to complete their degree(s).

$h!t Mark Richt's poor decisions led to Him getting fired at UGA, and they're giving Him $4M a year!...but Yearby makes a poor decision and He gotta come outta pocket, go figure.

We'll have to agree to disagree then, but Richt is a poor analogy, Richt didn't leave UGA and then expect them to pay him after he left.
And yes you make a poor decision and you should pay for it...it's called learning a lesson.

 

[Ghandi]

Many aren’t, and are there on academic scholarships as well as incurring large amounts of student debt.

And even if you believe this bull$h!t, you still have to pay for equipment, travel, physical therapy, and insurance for those sports.

The fact He wants to come back to school is all that matters, and UM should foot the bill for His education like it does for freeloading sports like golf, tennis, rowing, swimming, diving, XC, etc..

Based on your postings you're the type of person that enables these kids to think they're owed something because they're good at a sport.

They are...especially since they were EEs, recruited for you when they were in HS, and never got into any trouble...yeah, the school should foot the bill if they want to complete their degree(s).

$h!t Mark Richt's poor decisions led to Him getting fired at UGA, and they're giving Him $4M a year!...but Yearby makes a poor decision and He gotta come outta pocket, go figure.

This is terrible logic.

1. Yearby is good at football. He has specialized skills that help an organization be successful.
2. Said organization(s) agree with him that the POTENTIAL of his skill is beneficial to their organizations and extend an offer that is in-line for the market they play in.
3. Yearby CHOOSES the organization he feels will give him the best chance at growth and success.
4. The Organization is meeting their end of the agreement, providing room and board, education, training facilities, career training and development (coaching), tutoring/assistance, and nutritional support.
5. In return, Yearby performs to the best of his ability, helping the organization reach a level of success. Since there is no performance expectations for the Organization, his output is considered fulfillment of his obligations.
6. Yearby CHOOSES to leave school early, ending the agreement with the organization.
7. In turn, the organization must now use resources (at their expense) to find a replacement for Yearby who terminated the agreement earlier than they expected.

END OF LOGIC TRACK.

1. Yearby decides that he wants to return to the school.
2. School has a program for athletes to return to school and finish their degrees, free of charge, if they meet certain criteria.
3. TBD - no info.

END OF LOGIC TRACK.

There is a program. What's your point?

 

[CaneJuice69]

Friend of the show Malki Kawa convinced Norton he would be drafted higher than his advisory grade, which then subsequently led to McIntosh declaring for the draft. **** that guy. Please never bring him back on the podcast or to this site. Pete, if you're a runner for this guy...

There are a lot of scummy hanger ons to kids at UM. It’s sad but it’s a big problem in Miami

Defintely right, but not only in Miami....LA quickly comes to mind as well

Spoke to a staff member a while back who had experience in recruiting all over the US. Was asked about LA vs Miami in terms of hanger-on street agent scumminess and he said Miami was way worse. TIFWIW.

Your info is more current than mine, but used to be pretty plugged in with the "Old Money" USC crowd and....well just look at the program's history. The only way UCLA was able to compete was with bagmen too (Sonny 4 Bball jus the tip of iceberg). More importantly, what I thought your post was about, and which I would concur with completely, is that once you are "identified" as a prospect (happening @ younger years right or wrong) with future earnings potential, well a lot of "friends" try to worm themselves into the kids lives to ride the train out of Compton or LC regardless if they can contribute anything positive or not.

The 7v7 debate going on in another thread is wrought with names of people who have apparently not given kids the right perspective, road to take going forward. Nevertheless, beyond a shadow of doubt, some of these kids would never experience anything outside their hood or have the positive influences of sports discipline (saved my life 4 sure) necessarily, so even if there are a few bad apples, I don't think we can let them spoil the whole bunch.

 

[simplycanes]

There is no question that playing Gus Edwards over Yearby was dumb on the staff's part. If that led to Yearby making his football decision, so be it. It's on both parties, but UM's hand in his present situation stops there. This whole ordeal over him getting to return for free is not an athletic issue, it's a university policy issue.

All of this conjecture is great and all but absent knowing the policy and its requirements, it's all just that, conjecture.

It's safe to say that these details were either known to Joe Yearby, or readily accessible by him. If he didn't factor them into his decision, add that to a list of mistakes he made in arriving at his horrible conclusion to forego his final year of college, at UM or elsewhere.

Some of you have an odd, antagonistic relationship with UM. It very bizarre. You love one, maybe two of the sports teams but the rest of the university community-- faculty, administrators, students, other athletes-- are the root of all evil and 100% culpable for any stupid decisions made by others.

The investment made in a student athlete, specifically a football player goes far beyond their scholarship. It takes a lot of resources from all across the university. He walked away from that, that was a risk. If they don't want to return the tuition portion, take out a student loan like nearly 60% of the UM student body is doing.

 

[MizCane]

You are crazy if you want to blame Richt for this non-sense?

Yearby had to feed the fam and made his decision. Didn't work out

McIntosh's decision coming solely off Norton is the dumbest thing I have seen since AQM and Grace joy riding luxury cars.

Richt cant fix stupid.

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

 

[MizCane]

Also, lets think about this for second.

This would set a terrible precedent going forward. So instead of 4-5 Jr's leaving early, all of them throw their hat into the NFL ring because worst case they can go back to school and get their degree free of charge.

Just makes zero sense. He knew the risk and made a big boy decision. I def feel bad for the kid but it is what it is. No way you can blame Richt or get mad at the school for refusing him a free education.

 

[UMCenturion]

Richt laying down the law is more "father figure" than letting these kids do as they please. Im sure richt would say no, but this is what i can do for you. Do this, and maybe you can have a change. At least, that would be the hope.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Im sure richt would say no

With Richt's track record of helping former players transition to life after football, seriously doubt He'd tell JY "no".

Some of y'all carry on like this kid committed a serious crime or some $h!t, making a hasty decision to leave school early for a shot at the NFL is not the worse thing a young man can do.

The school owes it to Him.

 

[simplycanes]

You are crazy if you want to blame Richt for this non-sense?

Yearby had to feed the fam and made his decision. Didn't work out

McIntosh's decision coming solely off Norton is the dumbest thing I have seen since AQM and Grace joy riding luxury cars.

Richt cant fix stupid.

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Re: McIntosh, don't be fooled by the, "he made me do it."

I wouldn't be half surprised if the two of them made themselves ineligible anyways before they even set foot back in the Gables.

 

[TheSwagger1]

You are crazy if you want to blame Richt for this non-sense?

Yearby had to feed the fam and made his decision. Didn't work out

McIntosh's decision coming solely off Norton is the dumbest thing I have seen since AQM and Grace joy riding luxury cars.

Richt cant fix stupid.

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Go back and slowly re-read what I wrote. Did I BLAME Richt for the problem, or did I say that I HOPED he could help fix it? Richt is not an Xs and Os genius, certainly not in 2018 if he ever was considered one. He's seemingly 100% hands off of the defense, both Xs/Os and recruiting/strategy (which is going to be a problem in the near future if you're following recruiting on that side of the ball). He's a good recruiter with offense kids but not an ace - though I really love this class on that side of the ball. Those are things you can live with if he's providing great advantages elsewhere. Some of the things that you hope he provides the program are professional experience & wisdom with planning and soft skills. He is not a rookie, he's a guy that's seen a lot and whose word *should* mean something to kids. Finessing egos & personalities in places like this is something you hope you get out of him given his other shortcomings. I do not BLAME Richt for 21 year old kids being idiots, but I HOPE that he can start to provide influence in those areas.

 

[clg003]

You are crazy if you want to blame Richt for this non-sense?

Yearby had to feed the fam and made his decision. Didn't work out

McIntosh's decision coming solely off Norton is the dumbest thing I have seen since AQM and Grace joy riding luxury cars.

Richt cant fix stupid.

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Go back and slowly re-read what I wrote. Did I BLAME Richt for the problem, or did I say that I HOPED he could help fix it? Richt is not an Xs and Os genius, certainly not in 2018 if he ever was considered one. He's seemingly 100% hands off of the defense, both Xs/Os and recruiting/strategy (which is going to be a problem in the near future if you're following recruiting on that side of the ball). He's a good recruiter with offense kids but not an ace - though I really love this class on that side of the ball. Those are things you can live with if he's providing great advantages elsewhere. Some of the things that you hope he provides the program are professional experience & wisdom with planning and soft skills. He is not a rookie, he's a guy that's seen a lot and whose word *should* mean something to kids. Finessing egos & personalities in places like this is something you hope you get out of him given his other shortcomings. I do not BLAME Richt for 21 year old kids being idiots, but I HOPE that he can start to provide influence in those areas.

how many ace recruiters are there?

I bet the only ace recruiters are the ones who have a better record than this and you can count them on one hand (that has lost a finger or two).

CMR Recruiting classes from 2001-2015
2001 Recruiting class ranked #10 by 247 Sports
2002 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #3 by Rivals
2003 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2004 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2005 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #10 by Rivals
2006 Recruiting class ranked #3 by 247 Sports & #4 by Rivals
2007 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2008 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2009 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2010 Recruiting class ranked #11 by 247 Sports & #15 by Rivals
2011 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #5 by Rivals
2012 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2013 Recruiting class ranked #12 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2014 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2015 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals

 

[canecat]

Dude reading that article I just found out FSU lost Tate and Izzo to the pros. WOW FSU is not going to be good next season as those 2 were the playmakers beyond that amazing freshman RB.

You are always have what happened here happen . Some kids are smart ( Jackson and Johnson) and some are dumb ( Mcintosh and Norton ) . Just the way it is . Happens everywhere. Clemson this season was an anomoly . Hopefully the more kids mess up and pay for it like Kaaya and Yearby did some kids will learn .

Walton totally did the right thing turning pro IMO though as UM's going to have the most loaded backfield in college next season.

 

[canecat]

You are crazy if you want to blame Richt for this non-sense?

Yearby had to feed the fam and made his decision. Didn't work out

McIntosh's decision coming solely off Norton is the dumbest thing I have seen since AQM and Grace joy riding luxury cars.

Richt cant fix stupid.

One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Go back and slowly re-read what I wrote. Did I BLAME Richt for the problem, or did I say that I HOPED he could help fix it? Richt is not an Xs and Os genius, certainly not in 2018 if he ever was considered one. He's seemingly 100% hands off of the defense, both Xs/Os and recruiting/strategy (which is going to be a problem in the near future if you're following recruiting on that side of the ball). He's a good recruiter with offense kids but not an ace - though I really love this class on that side of the ball. Those are things you can live with if he's providing great advantages elsewhere. Some of the things that you hope he provides the program are professional experience & wisdom with planning and soft skills. He is not a rookie, he's a guy that's seen a lot and whose word *should* mean something to kids. Finessing egos & personalities in places like this is something you hope you get out of him given his other shortcomings. I do not BLAME Richt for 21 year old kids being idiots, but I HOPE that he can start to provide influence in those areas.

how many ace recruiters are there?

I bet the only ace recruiters are the ones who have a better record than this and you can count them on one hand (that has lost a finger or two).

CMR Recruiting classes from 2001-2015
2001 Recruiting class ranked #10 by 247 Sports
2002 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #3 by Rivals
2003 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2004 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2005 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #10 by Rivals
2006 Recruiting class ranked #3 by 247 Sports & #4 by Rivals
2007 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2008 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2009 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2010 Recruiting class ranked #11 by 247 Sports & #15 by Rivals
2011 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #5 by Rivals
2012 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2013 Recruiting class ranked #12 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2014 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2015 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals

RIcht is a monster recruiting . Top 10 class every freaking year basically and he will do better at MIami then he did at UGA watch . There is really no difference between a class ranked 2 and a class ranked 10 .

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

how many ace recruiters are there?

I bet the only ace recruiters are the ones who have a better record than this and you can count them on one hand (that has lost a finger or two).

CMR Recruiting classes from 2001-2015
2001 Recruiting class ranked #10 by 247 Sports
2002 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #3 by Rivals
2003 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2004 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2005 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #10 by Rivals
2006 Recruiting class ranked #3 by 247 Sports & #4 by Rivals
2007 Recruiting class ranked #9 by 247 Sports & #9 by Rivals
2008 Recruiting class ranked #7 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2009 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals
2010 Recruiting class ranked #11 by 247 Sports & #15 by Rivals
2011 Recruiting class ranked #6 by 247 Sports & #5 by Rivals
2012 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2013 Recruiting class ranked #12 by 247 Sports & #12 by Rivals
2014 Recruiting class ranked #8 by 247 Sports & #7 by Rivals
2015 Recruiting class ranked #5 by 247 Sports & #6 by Rivals

Recruiting wasn't a problem before Richt got to UGA, those 3 yards & a cloud of dust offenses were:

Paul Johnson:

His take on coaches reputed to be good recruiters when usually it’s the school that recruits itself: “When’s the last time the University of Georgia didn’t have a top-10 recruiting class? So Coach (Vince) Dooley was a great recruiter, Ray Goff was a great recruiter, Jim Donnan was a great recruiter, Mark Richt’s a great recruiter, Kirby Smart’s a great recruiter. Who was a bad one? Because I don’t remember them having a coach when they weren’t top 10.”