Joe Yearby

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So Mcintosh followed Norton and was worried about double teams without Norton according to that article. Bizarre stuff.

Entire article is infuriating.

It really is, if the statement about McIntosh is true that's a really bad look IMO. And I'm probably in the minority here, but why should Miami foot the bill for a guy that leaves early and then wants to come back and get a degree?

Because it becomes a public relations nightmare when clowns like Lebatard or anyone at eSECpn conveniently pick us to highlight how we "abandon" players and then they end up in jail or working minimum wage jobs with no degree. The pieces basically write themselves and also fall in line with that narrative that they all love of these kids being "slaves" in the NCAA system.

Not that someone that makes a big boy decision shouldn't realize that there are potential big boy consequences.

The first thing Rick should ask any of these kids that declare early is if their agent has agreed to cover the cost to finish their degree if their promises of getting drafted high (or at all) don't materialize.

100% agree. Also, since he is Centrals RB coach I would imagine it would be very bad to have him start bad mouthing us to all his players.
 
It's blaxploitation, plain and simple.

If you aren't going to pay the athletes, at least have the decency to let this dude finish his degree for free. He's helped bring Miami millions of dollars and he put his body on the line for it, but you can't let this guy complete his degree? It's ridiculous!

The man doesn't even need housing or a meal plan, since he lives down there. Just let the guy commute to school and finish his degree.
 
They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?
 
One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

Do you have children?

Can you explain to me what Richt could have done differently, and what you are aware of he didn’t do?

You do realize he has around 80 children to “father” don’t you? On top of running a major P5 football program, fundraising, managing his assistants, meeting with boosters, fulfilling his administrative duties, recruiting, etc.?

What more could he have done to prevent Yearby from making his litany of stupid decisions? Been there before he inserted his ***** to personally place a condom on him? Held his hand and made sure he made it to all his classes.

Tell me specifically what he could have done to better fulfill his “father” role.
 
They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them
 
These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.
 
These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.

The system at Miami is screwed up, man. The university of Kentucky offers lifetime scholarships to their student athletes, in the event they leave early. It's truly ridiculous how Miami and many of these schools exploit these athletes. Kentucky, at least, is making the best of a bad and exploitative system. They're at least "somewhat" putting the needs of the athlete first.

Former UK football star Oliver White back to earn college degree | Lexington Herald Leader
 
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They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them

Did you really just equate attending the University of Miami akin slavery? There's dumb and then there's this.
 
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They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them

Ridiculous comparison. Nobodies forced anybody to do anything. Football player compensation is a different issue. But using the slaver analogy? That’s just dumb and insulting, especially to actual slaves, both historically and currently in other parts of the world.
 
I think Yearby get too much heat for turning pro early. He didn't have many options.

He had dropped to 3rd string as was getting no carries by the end of 2016. If he had returned to Miami, he would have had very little carries in 2017. It wouldn't have helped his draft stock.

His best move to both get playing time and get a degree would've been to transfer. Coming back to Miami probably would've been his 3rd best choice after transferring or going pro.
 
This

I don't have a degree yet. My draft evaluation was poor. I am going to go pro because I don't feel I will get PT over Gus Edwards. That's a smart kid there.

1. Work harder
2. Get a degree
3. Seek a transfer
4. Communicate with your teammates
5. Communicate with your coaches
6. Don't listen to agents
 
These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.

The system at Miami is screwed up, man. The university of Kentucky offers lifetime scholarships to their student athletes, in the event they leave early. It's truly ridiculous how Miami and many of these schools exploit these athletes. Kentucky, at least, is making the best of a bad and exploitative system. They're at least "somewhat" putting the needs of the athlete first.

Former UK football star Oliver White back to earn college degree | Lexington Herald Leader

Miami does too.

But there must be some requirement he didn’t meet.
 
All of these decisions, many/most of them foolish, have less to do with contracts, coaches, agents, etc.; it has to do with a disdain/ambivalence/rejection of education, imo. Fortunately, or unfortunately, these choices are fortified by every late-round/free agent who goes on to make a career in the NFL*. For anyone who has made any real money, you realize two things: 1) The league minimum, in the whole scheme of things...ain’t a lot of money; and 2) there is no way you can keep money living the way they do.

But, they’re grown men and I’ll back their choices, even when I don’t agree. Why? Because no/low-draft doesn’t mean they can’t have life success.

*I consider this a great story, others may feel differently.

Ricky Jean Francois
Carol City High School
LSU
Entered draft about the size of Norton; slightly smaller Source: LSU defensive lineman Ricky Jean-Francois will enter the NFL draft
7th round; 244th pick
Has played for 5 teams in his 9 year career.

But to me, his real success, is that he listened to veteran teammates who said you have to have a plan after the game.

HE OWNS 30 DUNKIN DONUTS!

All that said, every kid should be attempting to leave college with a degree, even (or should I say especially) if they plan to leave early. For reference, Deshaun Watson did it.
 
They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them

LMAO, man I'm black and I'm saying that's a messed up comparison lol! He could had transferred, quit football and still would have his degree paid for. I agree with the NCAA exploiting football players, but their far from slaves lol. lmao...**** lol
 
They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

That's right...punish the slave that ran away. Teach him a lesson so the others don't try to escape! We own them

Ridiculous comparison. Nobodies forced anybody to do anything. Football player compensation is a different issue. But using the slaver analogy? That’s just dumb and insulting, especially to actual slaves, both historically and currently in other parts of the world.

Whatever, man. I made the analogy because guys are talking as if Miami owns these players as if they are slaves or chattel (e.g., teach him lesson for running away so others wont do it, etc). GTFOH!

Give these dudes lifetime scholarships. Bottom line. Kentucky does it, and Miami can do it.

Why punish the kid by limiting his education options after he's already helped bring in 10's of millions of dollars? Miami claims to be about service giving back to the S. Florida community, so show and prove. You uplift the community by educating this former student athlete, because he may in turn give back and help someone else; it's a feedback loop
 
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These are grown *** men. Its no ones responsibility to give them adequate advice.

From what the media has said, Richt gave them sound, realistic advice.

If they left anyway, thats on them.

The system at Miami is screwed up, man. The university of Kentucky offers lifetime scholarships to their student athletes, in the event they leave early. It's truly ridiculous how Miami and many of these schools exploit these athletes. Kentucky, at least, is making the best of a bad and exploitative system. They're at least "somewhat" putting the needs of the athlete first.

Former UK football star Oliver White back to earn college degree | Lexington Herald Leader

Miami does too.

But there must be some requirement he didn’t meet.

If that is the case, then I stand corrected.
 
One thing I'd hoped with Richt is that he would be a father figure type who kids could trust and help prevent them from making stupid decisions. Doesn't look like that has materialized, at all. These kids are incredibly naive and we better get it figured out. We aren't losing out on kids to the NFL, we're losing out on kids to practice squads and forced retirement from the sport.

I'm thinking this may probably work out more in our favor the longer he's here.
 
They need to let him reenroll for free so these kids have a living breathing example of how leaving too early can blow up in their face.

My guess is they will do so and that his efforts to get back in classes has probably been cursory at best so far with maybe some lower level person in financial aid or at the registrar's office just being like "Well it's not showing here that you're currently on any type of scholarship....".

Not saying how they should do it one way or the other because I don't know all the details but your theory is backwards. If they want to show how leaving early could blow up in your face wouldn't making him pay if he re-enrolls do that? I mean if they just let him come back what kind of punishment/lesson does it teach them for leaving before they are ready?

Well you're assuming he would/could pay and are adding a punishment angle that I'm really not pursuing.

Jackson mentioned in the article that the players may be enticed to leave because they're inundated with former players/NFL stars that show back up and are obviously living opulent lifestyles. I think that assertion was a bit of a stretch but I don't think it'd hurt to also have guys like Yearby and potentially Kaaya also around as counter-examples.

Sure, some might feel like they have nothing to lose as they can always come back for free but at this point I'm more concerned in dispelling the obvious widespread fantasy down there that everyone gets paid. It'd probably also help to have those guys around to warn about trusting the sunshine and roses that agents are pumping.
 
Let this man go to school for free and finish his degree, especially if it's only for a year. C'mon, Miami! That's not right at all.

Why? He went to school for free while he was on the team. He made a decision to leave school prior to securing his degree, you reap what you sow
 
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