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Rellyrell said:
Actually, that’s exactly what Air Raid means. Lol. Air Raid is apart of a spread concept, but u along w/ others often confuse or equate Air Raid as “Spread.”

Run & Shoot / Air Raid literally means u’re airing out the ball. Spread can be ran in different formations that utilizes the concept of “spreading” out the defense, to create the best match ups, whether that’s running or passing the ball. UGA runs a Pro Spread, which is not Air Raid. We were attempting to run a Power Spread. Triple Option was considered a type of spread offense.

Air Raid is very specific to being a pass heavy offense w/ very little attention to the run. It’s why QBs under coaches like Mike Leach, June Jones, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins to name a few put up gaudy passing stats.
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Rellyrell said:
Actually, that’s exactly what Air Raid means. Lol. Air Raid is apart of a spread concept, but u along w/ others often confuse or equate Air Raid as “Spread.”

Run & Shoot / Air Raid literally means u’re airing out the ball. Spread can be ran in different formations that utilizes the concept of “spreading” out the defense, to create the best match ups, whether that’s running or passing the ball. UGA runs a Pro Spread, which is not Air Raid. We were attempting to run a Power Spread. Triple Option was considered a type of spread offense.

Air Raid is very specific to being a pass heavy offense w/ very little attention to the run. It’s why QBs under coaches like Mike Leach, June Jones, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins to name a few put up gaudy passing stats.
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For instance....David Yost has always ran a Spread-Option....with heavy emphasis on Up Tempo....
 
Rellyrell said:
Actually, that’s exactly what Air Raid means. Lol. Air Raid is apart of a spread concept, but u along w/ others often confuse or equate Air Raid as “Spread.”

Run & Shoot / Air Raid literally means u’re airing out the ball. Spread can be ran in different formations that utilizes the concept of “spreading” out the defense, to create the best match ups, whether that’s running or passing the ball. UGA runs a Pro Spread, which is not Air Raid. We were attempting to run a Power Spread. Triple Option was considered a type of spread offense.

Air Raid is very specific to being a pass heavy offense w/ very little attention to the run. It’s why QBs under coaches like Mike Leach, June Jones, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins to name a few put up gaudy passing stats.
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all these receivers allegedly want to play for that system according to a lot of people.
But does that system actually produce a lot of nfl receivers?
You would think that all those yards that get put up by the teams and coaches who have run it that the nfl would have a lot of receivers from that system.

Am I wrong?
 
pacusmc said:
all these receivers allegedly want to play for that system according to a lot of people.
But does that system actually produce a lot of nfl receivers?
You would think that all those yards that get put up by the teams and coaches who have run it that the nfl would have a lot of receivers from that system.

Am I wrong?
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Spread, yes.

I can’t recall a successful WR or QB from an air raid b/c all of the previous QBs & WRs from that system who went on to the NFL in the late 80’s & 90’s flopped. U name me a successful Leach QB at the next level. The only WR I can think of was Crabtree & he was no where near the player he was at TT.
 
ghost2 said:
100%. Yes you need coaches who put the studs into position to make plays, but man UGA is running basic, hat-on-hat plays and will put up 100 points on a vastly overmatched team.

Stack chips, then stack more. Not an earth-shattering post by any means but it's fascinating to see the "which is more important" argument being answered so definitively at the highest possible level of college football.
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Talent wins players matter more
 
hoops156 said:
Monken came from air raid lol
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So what?

What is he currently running?

Anyone can learn "Air Raid Concepts", so let's not act like certain people have a patent on that stuff. I'd take "proper execution" over "one particular scheme with a cute nickname" any day.
 
Rellyrell said:
Since when has Monken been an “Air Raid” guy? He was the OC at the Cleveland Browns b4 coming to UGA where they RAN THE BALL. Prior to that, he was the OC for the TB Bucs where they for sure wasn’t just tossing the rock.
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Air Raid CONCEPTS, bro...



Is what I'm expecting to hear as the explanation...
 
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WanderFranco said:
These guys are going back 5 jobs and 10 years ago. If a guy was in a head coach's "Air Raid offense", apparently that assistant coach is Air Raid For Life.
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amanan28 said:
Air Raid doesn’t necessarily mean throw the ball 50 times a game…it’s a host of passing concepts and philosophy on spreading the field and using space. He has an aggressive spread scheme but at every stop he’s tailored to the personnel.

He talks about passing to set up the run at length. His coaching roots come from the Air Raid offense so the majority of his concepts come from that style of play. That’s what I mean when saying he’s an air raid guy it’s the root of his philosophy.

Easy to point out his stops in the NFL but you glanced over his stop at OK State under Gundy and SMiss where he very much was an “Air Raid” guy…
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EXACTLY!

I hear RUN, RUN, RUN - to set up the pass.

BS.

It cuts both ways. You can pass, pass, pass, and that can open up the run.

Unless you have a dumbazz OC. Stuck on one thing.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Talent wins players matter more
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amem brother amen
a corch can take a talented roster and win a NC
a elite coach has never taken a team of jags and won a NC

we need to end the discussion once and for all
its simple math
if you look at the percentage of 5 stars being all conf or better its much higher than 4 stars and substantially higher than 3 stars
with the variability in hs players as they transition to college players
there is no guarantee
thats why you keep having to get 5 and high 4 stars to hedge your portfolio against jags
so of course not every 5 star will be good and not every 3 star is a jag
but stacking talent hedges your chances for the best roster

its simple stats and game theory
that is why the most important aspect of an elite college football coach is talent acquisition

ultimately better players will win out vs scheme
even our best defense and broyles winner shannon ran a simple cover 2 bc he could keep his safeties back bc the front 7 was dominant
that is why UGA can shut down TCU bc they just keep their safeties back to play the pass and the front seven just shuts everything else down
they dont need to crowd the box
there is nothing unique or special about ugas defense
they are just better player for player than the opposing team
 
amanan28 said:
People hating on Air Raid in here while Monken is an Air Raid guy.
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Serious reach calling Monken an Air Raid guy. If he ever was, then he's incurred a change of heart. He had a brief time under Mike Gundy, but he runs a lot of pro style stuff. Later part of career has been in the NFL - OC in Cleveland and Tampa, WR coach in Jacksonville. Just another guy bouncing around without a lot of success, including HC stint at So. Miss, until making a name for himself at Georgia.
 
BeastMode said:
Bennett had allllllll day to throw. It was such a mismatch in the trenches. TCU got dominated on both sides of the ball. One day half of this board will wake up and stop calling ppl mopes when we point out our roster isn’t even close to competing.

Outside of Kam, there isn’t a single player in our two deep who would play at Georgia. Even Kam would struggle to be in the two deep.

Mario needs top 5 range classes over and over and over and over for us to get to Georgia, Bama and OSU levels. Hoping he can get us there.
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This. There was one camera angle in the second quarter where they panned down the UGA OL, and I literally said - ****, these mf’s legitimately have an NFL caliber OL. Just the size difference alone compared to the TCU DL was astounding.

Now we finally have the makings of an elite OL, but it’s going to take a couple more years of Mario signing the Mauigoa/Pancake types.

Hate to pick on the kid, but the fact that we had D Scaife playing considerable minutes for us was laughable.
 
The Sphinx said:
This. There was one camera angle in the second quarter where they panned down the UGA OL, and I literally said - ****, these mf’s legitimately have an NFL caliber OL. Just the size difference alone compared to the TCU DL was astounding.

Now we finally have the makings of an elite OL, but it’s going to take a couple more years of Mario signing the Mauigoa/Pancake types.

Hate to pick on the kid, but the fact that we had D Scaife playing considerable minutes for us was laughable.
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Exactly.

TCU doesn’t recruit like us, they play hard, their coach could out coach ours all day everyday, blah blah blah…

They got embarrassed by a more talented team. The team with more talent wins 99% of the time. Not the most recruiting stars, actual talent…
 
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Rellyrell said:
Actually, that’s exactly what Air Raid means. Lol. Air Raid is apart of a spread concept, but u along w/ others often confuse or equate Air Raid as “Spread.”

Run & Shoot / Air Raid literally means u’re airing out the ball. Spread can be ran in different formations that utilizes the concept of “spreading” out the defense, to create the best match ups, whether that’s running or passing the ball. UGA runs a Pro Spread, which is not Air Raid. We were attempting to run a Power Spread. Triple Option was considered a type of spread offense.

Air Raid is very specific to being a pass heavy offense w/ very little attention to the run. It’s why QBs under coaches like Mike Leach, June Jones, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins to name a few put up gaudy passing stats.
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This is so false man lol and i dont blame u for even thinking this way because this is how people talk about schemes but the labels are just pointless lol because everybody is using a little bit of everything. Like we just smack a label on anything without actually knowing what they’re actually doing
 
E1k said:
This is so false man lol and i dont blame u for even thinking this way because this is how people talk about schemes but the labels are just pointless lol because everybody is using a little bit of everything. Like we just smack a label on anything without actually knowing what they’re actually doing
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Say what??? Bro, what r u on right now?

Literal definition:

The spread offense is an offensive scheme in gridiron football that typically places the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and "spreads" the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets. Used at every level of the game including professional (NFL, CFL), college (NCAA, NAIA, CIS), and high school programs across the US and Canada, spread offenses often employ a no-huddle approach. Some implementations of the spread also feature wide splits between the offensive linemen.

Not sure why some keep questioning my post.
 
Rellyrell said:
Say what??? Bro, what r u on right now?

Literal definition:

The spread offense is an offensive scheme in gridiron football that typically places the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and "spreads" the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets. Used at every level of the game including professional (NFL, CFL), college (NCAA, NAIA, CIS), and high school programs across the US and Canada, spread offenses often employ a no-huddle approach. Some implementations of the spread also feature wide splits between the offensive linemen.

Not sure why some keep questioning my post.
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Thats not all u said lol…but again these labels are pointless is my point because majority of the time the people using them dont know what they’re doing. Im not talking about formations
 
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