AmherstCane
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Compare Mario’s use of TO’s to Kirby’s
That said, I’m still hopeful Mario can assemble a staff and roster that gets us back in the conversation.
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Compare Mario’s use of TO’s to Kirby’s
That said, I’m still hopeful Mario can assemble a staff and roster that gets us back in the conversation.
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Talent isn't the ONLY factor, it's just the BIGGEST factor.
What I'm saying is the biggest factor in Georgia going from 10 win good, to NC good, has been their recruiting.
Ohio St - had 29 Top 100 players in their last 3 classes. They have similar talent to Georgia, so it becomes a more level playing field where coaching is important when they play. Their game could've easily gone either way.
Clemson - doesn't recruit on the same level. They need a Superman QB like Watson/Lawrence to take them over the top. When Kelly Bryant/DJU is the QB, they're really good but not great. Only so much the coaches can do.
Tenn - Has been bad, but had a magical year, just like TCU. Sometimes things break your way for a year, but Georgia was in control of the game this year, just like every other year
LSU - Needed Burrow/Chase/Jefferson/CEH - all 1st Rd picks to win the NC. Wasn't like Ogeron magically learned how to coach for just that year.
Mich - Georgia dominated them last year. That talent gap was easy to see.
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Agree wholeheartedly about Bobby. Let's see if he's still got the offensive mojo at his advanced age.
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He also got 3 to 4 years of his recruiting classes under this belt.
pacusmc
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That’s all window dressing man. No one coach or system is guaranteed to develop unless you have the dudes coming in.
The nfl proves that this development hypothesis seems to only apply to teams that recruit talented players and doesn’t apply to dudes that kill it in the nfl from lower p5 or non p5 schools.
In other words. No one is wondering who Cooper Krupp’s wide receiver coach was in college.
But we slobber all over Hartline.
take a look at UT system, they throw the ball.WR will have an opportunity to catch 60-70 balls next year.
CMC wants to be like Michigan ......
to many times Fans think of teams kinda like fantasy teams ... WOW got 7 -5*'s we conveniently forget
about Player development aspect of putting a team in BCS.... which we have been horrific at for what ? last 15-20 years
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Yes, of course, it is the largest factor getting to UGAs level as their level is the benchmark for the best.
But do not place too much emphasis on individual teams. I listed the top teams we know today as the teams Miami will need to compete with going forward.
The point is that even as you progress to improving your class you are completing with the talented teams at your level. Which means coaching still plays the same importance. Today you may out talent Duke but you will always need coaching to beat the top15 teams. Most teams are not ever going to get to Bama or UGA level. Until you get to the Bama, OSU or UGA level you are not going to simply out talent the top 15 teams.
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This literally proves my point.
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The correct answer to the talent vs coaching question is ‘both’.
A team with elite talent can win most games by showing up, even on a off day. They aren‘t playing 12 games against other elite teams. Like UGA vs Missouri. It wasn’t easy but they found a way to win the game. The great Canes teams were the same, i.e. the 2000 game vs Louisiana Tech or 2001 at Boston College. And, sometimes the upset happens.
Two teams with elite talent will come down to coaching and which staff can exploit favorable matchups. Ryan Day had a great game plan but Kirby Smart adjusted and came back to win a game that came down to a missed 50-yard FG at the buzzer.
A team with elite talent can win most games by showing up, even on a off day. They aren‘t playing 12 games against other elite teams. Like UGA vs Missouri. It wasn’t easy but they found a way to win the game. The great Canes teams were the same, i.e. the 2000 game vs Louisiana Tech or 2001 at Boston College. And, sometimes the upset happens.
Two teams with elite talent will come down to coaching and which staff can exploit favorable matchups. Ryan Day had a great game plan but Kirby Smart adjusted and came back to win a game that came down to a missed 50-yard FG at the buzzer.
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That's what we ran into "back in the day" when today's Georgia was Nebraska. They ran over everyone - no one could stop them, their strength programs was "unbeatable," and they couldn't be stopped.
But UM did. Because we could run - but we could also put on an aerial circus unseen since Von Richthoven's Flying Circus in WWI.
You go run heavy - you may be vulnerable to throwing teams in synch and well coached. They'll pick you apart, as your practices are against your run heavy team.
You can run against lesser teams and throw to have fun during those games - but some teams will load up against your line - and if you can't throw and throw well - you're S.O.L.
Even before Schnellenberger - we played all kinds of teams from all over the country - so we got to see everything. This practice came in handy in our early years of success.
Runs are good.
Throws are better, faster, and much easier to catch up and pass when you find yourself behind and time is of the essence.
This past season - we had doo-doo. Couldn't run. Couldn't pass.
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Player development?
Ok let’s go get the dude that coached Antonio Brown.
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Many people on this forum think Kirby Smart is still a bad coach. Lots of posts from respected posters on here dragged him for years as a bad coach.
The man won two national titles with Stetson Bennett IV. Jimmy and Joes are important, but when your quarterback is a journeyman walk-on made good, you gotta get credit for your acumen as a coach...that goes for Kirby and Monken.
The two coaches most disrespected on this forum over the past handful of years...Kirby Smart and Brian Kelly.
The man won two national titles with Stetson Bennett IV. Jimmy and Joes are important, but when your quarterback is a journeyman walk-on made good, you gotta get credit for your acumen as a coach...that goes for Kirby and Monken.
The two coaches most disrespected on this forum over the past handful of years...Kirby Smart and Brian Kelly.
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Air Raid doesn’t necessarily mean throw the ball 50 times a game…it’s a host of passing concepts and philosophy on spreading the field and using space. He has an aggressive spread scheme but at every stop he’s tailored to the personnel.
He talks about passing to set up the run at length. His coaching roots come from the Air Raid offense so the majority of his concepts come from that style of play. That’s what I mean when saying he’s an air raid guy it’s the root of his philosophy.
Easy to point out his stops in the NFL but you glanced over his stop at OK State under Gundy and SMiss where he very much was an “Air Raid” guy…
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people think air raid means the mike leach air raid where its just one super extreme. anyways, this is dumb. people will mad again next year when we look like **** again if we run it back w the same scheme and concepts
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Actually, that’s exactly what Air Raid means. Lol. Air Raid is apart of a spread concept, but u along w/ others often confuse or equate Air Raid as “Spread.”
Run & Shoot / Air Raid literally means u’re airing out the ball. Spread can be ran in different formations that utilizes the concept of “spreading” out the defense, to create the best match ups, whether that’s running or passing the ball. UGA runs a Pro Spread, which is not Air Raid. We were attempting to run a Power Spread. Triple Option was considered a type of spread offense.
Air Raid is very specific to being a pass heavy offense w/ very little attention to the run. It’s why QBs under coaches like Mike Leach, June Jones, Jack Pardee, John Jenkins to name a few put up gaudy passing stats.