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Lu, why do you say it's not all the CBs fault? They have not played well, relatively same defense as last year, but with much better play among the front 7. Last year this group was very solid all things considered.
 
Btw agree on Grace and think he gets more time going forward. I thing this could be a good defense once they get Grace, AQM, Chad, and Wyche more involved. Did not catch any of 2nd half, how did Chad and Wyche play?
 
Personally im surprised in Armbrister. Hes done well. But i agree Kirby has potential, but hasnt done anything. Im fine with kirby and grace splitting reps
 
Of the issues on this team playing Kirby over Grace is about the bottom of the list.

Kirby has played well so has Grace.

FAMU had to run 50 plays to get right over 100 yards.
Regardless of opponent that's basically 50 QB sneaks.
 
3FW said:
Lu, why do you say it's not all the CBs fault? They have not played well, relatively same defense as last year, but with much better play among the front 7. Last year this group was very solid all things considered.
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I said it's not all their fault. You're seeing a defense predicated on allowing certain things with the overarching goal of ultimately having offenses stop themselves. It is the opposite of a disruptive front that allows CBs/DBs anticipate and base their aggression on what they expect from a QB/offense. For example, we rarely force QBs to their off shoulder with overload blitzes. We rarely force QBs into 3-step drops or quick decisions. On the contrary, whether we're dropping into a softer zone or showing press, the entire field is often available and DBs will be on their heels.
 
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Kirby hasn't proven to be a liability yet.
Grace has impressed during his limited snaps but until coaches start seeing Kirby eff up Grace will remain behind him..
It is refreshing however to know you have a stud waiting in the wings in case of injury.
 
LuCane said:
smh, man. My favorite player on the team. Also, Jamal Carter looks really active and solid. If both of these guys were playing at VT (as an example), they'd be scary. Our Corners look like a f'in mess and it's not all their fault. So frustrating.
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Without dissecting the defense too much Jamal Carter just flat out stands out out there. He runs faster, plays harder, and is more aggressive than anyone in the secondary, by far
 
Most of the players on defense look like they are playing well. The scheme still sucks and the passive nature of it will never sit well here. If the offense wasn't crippled by the OC, we could win more games with this D. Still will never get to Promised Land with the passive approach of Al and Mark. But it is no longer a question of players or talent. Our limitations now are clearly on the sideline not the field.
 
wait we are blaming an injury 3 years ago about why Kirby has no positive impact on the game???


lmaooooooo



Grace should start just for the fact that Kirby makes no impact and mayb with grace we could actually cover the middle of the field
 
Grace needs to start? They alternate series anyway. Grace is in on nickel situations on drives he doesn't start as well.
 
LuCane said:
3FW said:
Lu, why do you say it's not all the CBs fault? They have not played well, relatively same defense as last year, but with much better play among the front 7. Last year this group was very solid all things considered.
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I said it's not all their fault. You're seeing a defense predicated on allowing certain things with the overarching goal of ultimately having offenses stop themselves. It is the opposite of a disruptive front that allows CBs/DBs anticipate and base their aggression on what they expect from a QB/offense. For example, we rarely force QBs to their off shoulder with overload blitzes. We rarely force QBs into 3-step drops or quick decisions. On the contrary, whether we're dropping into a softer zone or showing press, the entire field is often available and DBs will be on their heels.
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What are these CBs strengths? The common refrain is we should be playing one gap press man because this is the defense they grew up playing in south Florida. No one ever mentions when they say that our entire starting defensive front isn't from south Florida. 2 CBs(Gunter and Crawford) who get plenty of run aren't as well. A third in Elder isn't either.

So what are the actual strengths of the guys that play?
 
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fincane said:
LuCane said:
3FW said:
Lu, why do you say it's not all the CBs fault? They have not played well, relatively same defense as last year, but with much better play among the front 7. Last year this group was very solid all things considered.
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I said it's not all their fault. You're seeing a defense predicated on allowing certain things with the overarching goal of ultimately having offenses stop themselves. It is the opposite of a disruptive front that allows CBs/DBs anticipate and base their aggression on what they expect from a QB/offense. For example, we rarely force QBs to their off shoulder with overload blitzes. We rarely force QBs into 3-step drops or quick decisions. On the contrary, whether we're dropping into a softer zone or showing press, the entire field is often available and DBs will be on their heels.
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What are these CBs strengths? The common refrain is we should be playing one gap press man because this is the defense they grew up playing in south Florida. No one ever mentions when they say that our entire starting defensive front isn't from south Florida. 2 CBs(Gunter and Crawford) who get plenty of run aren't as well. A third in Elder isn't either.

So what are the actual strengths of the guys that play?
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I don't think you've ever seen me write that. When I talk about the strengths of the geographic region we recruit from, I'm talking about all defensive positions - not just DL. The strength of our guys is to play fast. They're not naturally big guys. I don't think we have more than 2 total DBs who are "process information" guys. Whether they're from South Florida or Mars, even those "assignment" guys will look slow when they're on their heels. I'd challenge anyone to produce evidence of a Defensive Backfield that performs well when the offense is dictating the alignment and pace. Then I'd challenge them to produce any data that shows we have ever dictated to an opponent. I can definitely show you where our formations - coverage and DL alignment - are completely predicated on the offense, however.
 
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