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Jason Candle Recruiting/ Player Development

OriginalGatorHater said:
How can you say he is great at recruiting and developing when he gets beat by G5 teams on a regular basis? That would mean his Xs and Os is questionable and that is what we are hiring him as(an OC). Do we really want an OC who can't beat teams that he has massive talent advantages over?
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Canemang said:
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But he's correct in this case. If you have the better talent (and Toledo has been #1 or #2 in recruiting for years in the MAC) and consistently lose to inferior teams, what does that say about your coaching and coordinating? Are you saying there's no correlation?
 
I'm going to support Mario's choice no matter what. I appreciate that Mario is looking at guys who are ace recruiters. But this guy just doesn't impress me like several of the other names being tossed around too. Briles or Brady > Dorsey > .................... > Candle.
 
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grover said:
But he's correct in this case. If you have the better talent (and Toledo has been #1 or #2 in recruiting for years in the MAC) and consistently lose to inferior teams, what does that say about your coaching and coordinating? Are you saying there's no correlation?
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its Been pointed out multiple times that the differences between 1 and 5 in MAC recruiting is negligible. And if you’re going to point out him losing to inferior opponents, as a head coach when it’s not just the offense in play, point out how well he’s played against P5 opponents like ND and Miami.
 
grover said:
I'm going to support Mario's choice no matter what. I appreciate that Mario is looking at guys who are ace recruiters. But this guy just doesn't impress me like several of the other names being tossed around too. Briles or Brady > Dorsey > .................... > Candle.
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Briles is a weak recruiter and put up some stinkers at FSU calling plays, Brady had one year of success with an extremely talented team and 2 years of **** in the NFL and also sucks at and despises recruiting and Dorsey has never called plays or recruited.

so let’s hear your argument as to why those three names are better.
 
So I guess we can file this thread…

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Canemang said:
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How is asking a very reasonable question trolling? The guy is supposedly this great talent evaluator and developer yet he gets beat by G5 teams. This guy most likely isn't even going to coach here and we already have people attacking anyone that wants to question his slurpers.
 
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Echtcane said:
Now that he's out, can we admit the red flags were there all along and that there's been some troubling underperformance/decline at Toledo?
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I was fairly well convinced on hiring him, but yeah that raised my eye as well.

Honestly, unless we're going to get Brady or Dorsey, just get the **** deal done with Kendall and let's move on to the next thing.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
I was fairly well convinced on hiring him, but yeah that raised my eye as well.

Honestly, unless we're going to get Brady or Dorsey, just get the **** deal done with Kendall and let's move on to the next thing.
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Yeah, at this point just do whatever it takes to get Briles. The Kent St guy is OK too with me, but this long drawn out process is no longer secret and is going to just be a bad look if it drags on.
 
Udynasty said:
We know Mario places a premium on recruiting. It seems Candle excels in both recruiting and player development. Considering he is viewed as a top offensive mind, the fact that he can recruit at a high level + develop players is a game changer compared to the other aformentioned candidates.

From his bio:

Jason Candle Recruiting:

Candle and the Rockets have been consistently excellent in adding talent to the program as each of Toledo’s last five recruiting classes have been ranked No. 1 in the Mid- American Conference by 247 Sports.

Recruiting excellence is nothing new for Candle, who has a long history of recruiting success. As an assistant coach, Candle was regularly mentioned among the nation’s top recruiters, including being nationally recognized by Rivals in 2010. He was one of only nine coaches in the country from Group of Five conferences to be named to the list and the only coach from the MAC. Candle also was named the Mid-American Conference “Recruiter of the Year” by http://Scout.com in both 2011 and 2012. Toledo’s 2011 recruiting class was ranked No. 1 in the MAC by both Scout and Rivals. In 2014, Candle was named one of only two MAC assistants to be named among the top recruiters in the Group of Five conferences by Rivals.

Candle’s first recruiting class as Toledo’s head coach in 2016 was rated No. 2 in the MAC by http://ESPN.com despite the fact that he assumed the head coaching job just two months before Signing Day. Even more impressive is the fact that all but two of Candle’s assistant coaches were new to the program during the critical final two months of the recruiting season.

Jason Candle Player Development:

Going back to his days at Mount Union, Candle has had a tremendous track record of mentoring players who have gone on to play in the NFL. A total of 25 players who Candle coaches as either and assistant or head coach made it to the professional ranks.

At Mount Union, Candle coached a pair of receivers Pierre Garcon and Cecil Shorts, who had outstanding NFL careers. Garcon played 11 seasons in the NFL with Indianapolis, Washington and San Francisco. He caught 628 passes, including an NFL-best 113 for the Redskins in 2013. Shorts had 229 receptions in six NFL seasons.

Candle has coached 23 Rockets who have made it to the NFL, including six who were selected in the NFL Draft between 2017-19. Kareem Hunt (Kansas City-third round), Michael Roberts (Detroit-fourth round) and Treyvon Hester (Oakland-seventh round) were all selected in the 2017 draft. Logan Woodside (Cincinnati-seventh round) was taken in 2018, while Diontae Johnson (Pittsburgh-third round) and Ka’dar Hollman (Green Bay-sixth round) were selected in the 2019 draft. Hunt led the NFL in rushing with 1,327 yards as a rookie in 2017. Johnson caught 59 passes as a rookie for the Steelers in 2019 and was named All-Pro second-team as a punt returner. In 2020, Johnson caught 88 passes with seven TD receptions, while Hunt rushed for 841 yards for the Cleveland Browns.



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