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Jadon Haselwood decommits from Georgia

BeastMode said:
OU is the best fit for both kids if we are all being honest with ourselves. Nothing will be known till Jan 5th either way so sit back and enjoy the rollercoaster.
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orange&green84 said:
That's the path most transfers take. Fields obviously wasn't given a shot at the starting job, he's moving on.

OU in terms of development, makes sense. But, they have talent at the position.

From Miami's position, we have Perry and Williams. Perry has done nothing to prove he's a long term answer at the position, and we don't know what we have with Williams.

On top of that, we don't have a QB this cycle either. In terms of coming in for playing time, Miami's the prime position. Unfortunately, you could apply the same concept at FSU too.
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OU is not the best situation for each kid and OU does not make sense from a development standpoint. Part of the reason why there was hesitation to draft Baker Mayfield at #1 overall in the first place was because of the stigma that big12 QBs put up ridiculous numbers in college but flame out when they get to the NFL, Colin Cowherd, even though he’s a USC homer actually made a good argument as to why the browns should draft Sam Darnold. Although looking at it in hindsight, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes are killing it now, we still have to look at the recent big12 QBs who went on to have mediocre careers. RGIII, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Vince Young. OU is the hot team right now because of back to back heisman winners, but only one of those heisman winners are playing in the NFL, the other is playing MLB baseball. Same for WR, they ball out in college, but when they get to the NFL they can barely run a full route tree. There a few decent WRs like Kenny Stills, Sterling Shepherd, Terrance Williams, all who were drafted mid to late round. But then you have Corey Coleman, Dorial green-Beckham, Tavon Austin, Kevin White. Some of the biggest 1st Rd WR bust in the NFL have come from the big 12. If Fields and Haselwood both want to go to the same school and become a dynamic duo all while raising their draft stock, Miami or another Pro-style offense is the best way to go.
 
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IcemanArcade said:
OU is not the best situation for each kid and OU does not make sense from a development standpoint. Part of the reason why there was hesitation to draft Baker Mayfield at #1 overall in the first place was because of the stigma that big12 QBs put up ridiculous numbers in college but flame out when they get to the NFL, Colin Cowherd, even though he’s a USC homer actually made a good argument as to why the browns should draft Sam Darnold. Although looking at it in hindsight, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes are killing it now, we still have to look at the recent big12 QBs who went on to have mediocre careers. RGIII, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Vince Young. OU is the hot team right now because of back to back heisman winners, but only one of those heisman winners are playing in the NFL, the other is playing MLB baseball. Same for WR, they ball out in college, but when they get to the NFL they can barely run a full route tree. There a few decent WRs like Kenny Stills, Sterling Shepherd, Terrance Williams, all who were drafted mid to late round. But then you have Corey Coleman, Dorial green-Beckham, Tavon Austin, Kevin White. Some of the biggest 1st Rd WR bust in the NFL have come from the big 12. If Fields and Haselwood both want to go to the same school and become a dynamic duo all while raising their draft stock, Miami or another Pro-style offense is the best way to go.
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What QB’s has Miami put into the NFL? What WR are putting up huge numbers at Miami. Some of you are blinded by your orange and green glasses.
 
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Nice little smoke about Fields and JH being a package to Miami *insert eye emoji. If we could somehow pull this off and Fields gets a waiver to play right away...WOW! lol
 
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BeastMode said:
What QB’s has Miami put into the NFL? What WR are putting up huge numbers at Miami. Some of you are blinded by your orange and green glasses.
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It’s not about what QB or WR Miami has put into the league recently, it’s about the overall system benefiting those two positions more than that spread iso system being ran in the big12, remember Teams in the big12 put up 40 points on opponents easily, but they’re also the same team to get 40 points put up on them, even though I believe the NFL will evolve into more spread concepts, that crap that goes on in the big12, teams running up the scoreboard and getting 50 points put up on them, QBs throwing 9 TDS a game will not be translating to the league. I promise if you get an innovative OC to Miami and you pair him up with Haselwood and Fields, Miami would be instant national contenders, and if our defense doesn’t slip up then we look more appealing than anything OU has to offer. Btw our coach, yes the one that’s stubborn, is the same coach that coached Matthew Stafford, Chris Weinke, Charlie ward (both won a heisman) with Richt as their QB coach and he coached AJ green, the main person Haselwood wants to be compared to.
 
IcemanArcade said:
OU is not the best situation for each kid and OU does not make sense from a development standpoint. Part of the reason why there was hesitation to draft Baker Mayfield at #1 overall in the first place was because of the stigma that big12 QBs put up ridiculous numbers in college but flame out when they get to the NFL, Colin Cowherd, even though he’s a USC homer actually made a good argument as to why the browns should draft Sam Darnold. Although looking at it in hindsight, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes are killing it now, we still have to look at the recent big12 QBs who went on to have mediocre careers. RGIII, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Vince Young. OU is the hot team right now because of back to back heisman winners, but only one of those heisman winners are playing in the NFL, the other is playing MLB baseball. Same for WR, they ball out in college, but when they get to the NFL they can barely run a full route tree. There a few decent WRs like Kenny Stills, Sterling Shepherd, Terrance Williams, all who were drafted mid to late round. But then you have Corey Coleman, Dorial green-Beckham, Tavon Austin, Kevin White. Some of the biggest 1st Rd WR bust in the NFL have come from the big 12. If Fields and Haselwood both want to go to the same school and become a dynamic duo all while raising their draft stock, Miami or another Pro-style offense is the best way to go.
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Projecting success for a QB in the NFL is the biggest question mark of any position.

In terms of development at QB, OU is the better position. I wasn't speaking strictly on QB development, not receiver. OU has put up back-to-back Heisman QBs. That's development. The NFL doesn't have one particular school or conference that funnels QBs in regularly, it's never been that way, it never will be. Darnold's a turnover machine and in year 1, he's displaying the same faults now that he did in USC. Baker and Mahomes are tearing it up right now; Baker also is doing that with a young Cleveland roster. You can't compare the two to previous Big 12 QBs. That's the same as Miami hinging their QB success at the next level to Jameis Winston, Deshan Watson, and Mitchell Trubisky. We had nothing to do with those respective QBs.
 
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hoops156 said:
400 before tom
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What’s funny is nothing really changes hour to hour but these sites will push stories for clocks until they can’t. There will be 50 updates on Bogle, Stevenson and Haselwood before they announce publicly. 400 pages might be accurate if you combined these three players threads.
 
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