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Jacob and wingo

It’s nitpicking but when they line up press on our outside guys (Barkate, Wingo, Upshaw) why aren’t we putting some deep passes out there and letting those guys make a play? I know it’s a 50/50 thing and it might get them off schedule on a drive but I think if they do it, the ongoing threat of doing it again will open things up more? They did it for Jacobs once.
 
VustyVoles said:
Didn’t Thornton have his time significantly reduced yesterday or are my eyes messing w me?
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Yeah he been ahs & got benched! Finally! But he was still missing tackles on special teams. Had a chance to get a safety or a tackle at the 1 on a punt and got juked to hades! He was not this bad last year at BC! It’s like he regressed. He’s in position to make plays because of his speed, but he cannot break down and tackle for ****! How TF you go from 83 tackles and many big hits/ forced fumbles to not being able to tackle AT ALL!?!
 
OldhamA said:
"A'ight, imma call this PA rollout pass to the TE. Who's playing TE on this play? A walkon... erm, ok, spot the ball I guess".

Can't see it myself.
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Per him… he doesn’t call plays for players. He calls a play and the QB goes through his progression and goes to the open guy…

“Mali just gets open a lot because he’s a good player so he catches a lot of passes…”

I hear him but he’s being a bit disingenuous because the jet sweeps and sweep passes are 100% intentional and the personnel matters.
 
Spindrift said:
I got ****ed the moment he dropped it. Then saw how badly he was beating himself up. I kinda felt bad for the kid. He knows he should have caught that pass. I would imagine he will feel like **** until he catches another throw his way.
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He went right back to him on the next drive. It was like a 10 yard out and he caught it.
 
brock said:
Good , I posted a thread about Thornton after the Clemson game. Glad to see everyone is not being blind about that situation
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Well the thing that cracks me up is fans continue to not trust the coaches. It was clear after the Clemson game that Thorton lost his spot. Yet everyone was in an uproar that he played against FSU. He only played because 7 and 3 were out! Had 7 been in the game, the whole Duece debacle doesn’t happen.
 
PennsylvaniaCane said:
It’s nitpicking but when they line up press on our outside guys (Barkate, Wingo, Upshaw) why aren’t we putting some deep passes out there and letting those guys make a play? I know it’s a 50/50 thing and it might get them off schedule on a drive but I think if they do it, the ongoing threat of doing it again will open things up more? They did it for Jacobs once.
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Only fades are 50/50. There’s 6-8 other routes we can run on the outside when pressed. Most teams play 8-10 yards off on the outside against us and that gives an opportunity for 8-10 different routes on the outside. We don’t use our outside receivers unless it’s a screen. I was shocked to see us run a few deep outs with Barkate and once with Upshaw the series after the drop. We need to make defenses defend the entire field. Before yesterday’s couple of throws, when we threw outside, it was always out of trips and it’s ALWAYS a screen. this offense could be much better
 
E1k said:
I still think upshaw is more of a slot he should be mali backup imo. I think they probably value his route running more than Jacobs? I know wingo is behind coop. Seems like the wrs have only mastered one role so we don’t move them around, if we did i think wingo would be in upshaw’s spot


The drops. Disciplinary was maybe the wrong word he’s not in trouble but they let wingo get a shot
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thanks, why doesnt Hetherman do that on defense for missed tackles? Or Mario for stupid penalties. Coop got blasted in the end zone and the DB got his hand on the ball in the other play.
 
Cane44 said:
Ya’ll might kill me but we are running toney into the ground imo. And i worry about him lasting into brutal playoff stretch. Dnt get me wrong, he’s elite and needs most touches but 19 catches??!?!? And the next most wr’s had 3. Spread the ball around.
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I think yesterday was because of the comments by the Pitt defender before the game about having a plan for Toney. It felt like Mensah and Toney were punishing Pitt for the comment.
 
Tracy724 said:
I agree and I was ****ed when it happened. With that said, I believe Briggs was open and thought DM should’ve passed it to him. He has definitely forced some passes where could’ve passed it elsewhere.

As a team, there’s a few things to clean up on both sides. And despite that, we’ve been dominating.
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This is a game where Belichek will try and have a plan to stop Toney. **** everybody does lol! If he plays a dominate WR he doubles teams with his number 2 corner and a safety then puts his best corner on your 2nd threat. It’s harder to do in college because of bigger talent gaps, This a game where tight ends and RBs need to be passing threats to expand the field and Mensah needs to take what’s there don’t force it
 
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