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It's all about the X's & O's...

Go Canes!! said:
Banda has help put multiple guys into the league and we’ve had excellent safety play here from day one of his time here.

Why do you believe he shouldn’t even be at a group of five school?
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I hold to the school of thought, that it's the PLAYERS whom have made Panda look good. But I could be wrong. hUh Also, Miami lacks game experience at safety this season. That includes the fifth-year senior.
 
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Liberty City El said:
To me the issue with this team on both sides of the ball is scheme more so than personnel.

Particularly on Offense, I've felt we need to go to a Spread Offense since 2016 due to the fact we simply don't have the OL to run the scheme these play callers Miami keeps hiring wants us to run.

WE ARE NOT A POWER RUN UNDER CENTER "PRO STYLE" Offense. We don't have the OT's to protect long enough for 5-7 step Play Action drops & we don't have the the interior line to open up big holes & create sufficient run lanes.

We need to stop fighting against ourselves & transition to a Spread/Air Raid style offense, because 1) we have the Offensive weapons that fit that scheme perfectly & 2) it would neutralize having to always rely on the Defense to be more stout than they're capable of.

We should be beating teams off the fact we have speed & athleticism combined with making them defend the ENTIRE field. The exact same issues we had last year, we have this year, we're slow, predictable & easily shut down on Offense by any DC with half a brain because we don't apply any pressure to Defenses whatsoever, we play right into their hands.

In today's era of College Football you can manufacture yards without having elite talent all over the field, the name of the PACE & SPACE! When you don't have an elite OL with a bunch of maulers & road graders the one thing you don't do is put them in a position to lose by making them block longer than they should. In an uptempo offense the ball is moving quickly on both Pass & Run plays which makes it easier for the OL to sustain quicker blocking assignments & doesn't force them to deal with a pass rush they can't contain.

For whatever reason we keep getting these fckin play callers that think the way to solve our OL issues is to just let them get beat over & over again and then eventually they'll figure it out smfh. Jakai Clark, Zion Nelson, Donaldson & Scaife all looked like sh*t vs CMU, that to me speaks to the coaching staff not properly developing them & not teaching them correctly. It's un-fckin-believable that we haven't had an OL worth a **** in basically 5 years.

We play extremely slow as an offense with these long developing plays that get blown up in the backfield as soon as the ball is snapped. We play with no tempo at all, we should be going at breakneck speed & forcing teams to pick their poison in what they wanna sellout to Defend. PACE & SPACE, you can run the ball effectively out of the Spread while still having a lethal passing attack going with multiple 4-wide sets & when you pickup the pace of play going tempo you keep the Defense on their heels & off balanced.

Look at most of the top 30 teams in Total Offense, Oklahoma, Wash St, Arizona, LSU, Utah St, UCF, Bama, Maryland, Wake Forest, Ok St, Oh St, SMU, Baylor, Texas, Memphis & Boise St, what do they ALL have in common... SCHEME, TEMPO (PACE) & SPACING. The specific scheme may differ from each team in terms of verbiage & play calling, but the concepts are all similar & the overall philosophy is very much the same... ATTACK YOUR OPPONENTS WEAKNESSES WITH YOUR STRENGTHS & SPREAD THE DEFENSE OUT TO OPEN UP THE FIELD.

I've seen enough on this slow antiquated 1995 under center Offense, we're not Wisconsin, or BC, or Iowa, or Michigan State, we don't have the players to run this type of Offense that our OC's keep wanting to run here. We need to get with the times & Spread the got **** ball out & start utilizing our skill players better putting them in position to succeed.

The reason why we always have a bunch of talented under utilized players is because we get these dictator OC's that wanna run these old *** overly & unnecessarily complicated offenses that take 4 years to learn the playbook, while simultaneously never actually yielding any results. What fckin sense does it make to run the most complex offense ever that essentially neutralizes your own skill players & debilitates your OLine & can still be easily beaten by FCS D Coordinators & teams with less talent?

Back in November of last year I made a thread about the next HC candidates I think would do well here, the top guys were Josh Heupel, Mike Norvell, Dino Babers & Neal Brown. My reasoning was, they would bring their high powered offenses to Miami with the caliber of athletes we have which would immediately increase offensive productvity which would get us easy W's vs teams that we're more talented than, which would then also put us in position to go on a run making us a more viable team in the Coastal, which would then make us more attractive to recruits.

Manny was not on my list. I like Manny & am willing to give him time to get it right realizing full well he's not gettin fired in year 1; what my hope is is that Enos gets hired somewhere else after this season (no he's not going to Mich St as a HC, if anything he'll go be a OC for another team or possibly get hired by a MAC/Sun Belt team as a HC) & maybe we can finally get smart & hire a guy from the Oklahoma Air Raid/Spread tree to put us in position to stop playing down to competition.
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There is an old saying its all about the jimmy's and joes not the x's and o's. I think Clemson's jimmy's and joe's are better than our jimmy's and joe's. Its simple Manny must upgrade this roster. How does he do that if his team cant win games it should win? We will see.
 
1hurricane said:
Diaz isn’t going fire anyone especially Banda or Patke. Everyone talks **** about Randy but he was last coach we had that at least tried to make changes to his staff.
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A lot of CanesInsight dudes had/have deep-seated CONTEMPT for that Mr. Onion Head. But he didn't have the cash flow to hire upper-tier assistants.

Heck, that creep Onion Head at least hired a competent offensive coordinator after Patrick, but said coordinator eventually UNDERMINED that Onion Head. Go figure.
 
Dude said:
Many have been saying this for years. Coaches like Mike Gundy or Dana Holgerson would kill it here.
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Omg it would be a dream to get Gundy down here. Down here he could Winn a national championship, unfortunately for him that will never happen at Okie state. They came close once but there kicker cousins make a field goal against ISU and that’s the closest he’ll ever get there. Plus can you imagine the whole jimmy comparisons since they both came from OSU. It would be a dream come true but it won’t happen. After Diaz is fires they’ll just hire Baker or Enos as our next head coach, UM at its finest! Lol
 
Cuban-Cane said:
I strongly disagree. Air raid offenses lead to tired out and gassed defenses. I think you need to find a balance. I like what we are trying to do we just dont have the line for it rn.
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That’s why fedora would have been perfect!
 
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NicKane said:
Omg it would be a dream to get Gundy down here. Down here he could Winn a national championship, unfortunately for him that will never happen at Okie state. They came close once but there kicker cousins make a field goal against ISU and that’s the closest he’ll ever get there. Plus can you imagine the whole jimmy comparisons since they both came from OSU. It would be a dream come true but it won’t happen. After Diaz is fires they’ll just hire Baker or Enos as our next head coach, UM at its finest! Lol
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I think he is a great coach but he isn't about winning championships. He's content being propped up as a hero for going 9-3. Zero chance he takes a pressure job.
 
PanamaCityCanes said:
I find it interesting how many coaches who have never killed it anywhere would suddenly kill it here.
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Are serious dude? **** you’re a ******* moron! Gundy has had more success then our last 4 coaches put together. What that dude has done at OSU is a small miracle. And before the eventual well mark had a lot of success at Georgia BS, news flash Georgia has everything under the sun to be successful and win NCs. So with that said marky underperformed there. You think they have those advantages at okie state? Gtfoh
 
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#1cane said:
There is an old saying its all about the jimmy's and joes not the x's and o's. I think Clemson's jimmy's and joe's are better than our jimmy's and joe's. Its simple Manny must upgrade this roster. How does he do that if his team cant win games it should win? We will see.
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Both Enos and the diminutive Diaz KNEW Miami had issues with the offensive line going into the season. So they should have schemed to ACCENTUATE their strengths!!

Again, Hurricane fan is going to find out all about Eno's when he game plans against one Mr. Bud Foster! Because any college football simpleton knows, that after the Duke game, Foster is going to ATTACK that young Hurricane offensive line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dUh And I don't care if Va Tech defeated two lowly opponents. Because all Hurricane fan has to do is look to mighty Central Michigan and their defensive coordinator!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Liberty City El said:
All systems aren't the same & FSU's issue isn't their Offense, they have one of the worst Defenses is D1 football.
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That offense only works when it scores every possession...but when the other team's defense figures you out and starts stopping that $h!t, now you gotta play football. And it leaves the defense on the field waaaaay too long.
 
#1cane said:
There is an old saying its all about the jimmy's and joes not the x's and o's. I think Clemson's jimmy's and joe's are better than our jimmy's and joe's. Its simple Manny must upgrade this roster. How does he do that if his team cant win games it should win? We will see.
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We lose to teams with less talent than us because they have better coaching.

Jimmy's & Joes are obviously most important, but that's dependent on recruiting & we don't recruit at a high level so in order to put ourselves in a better position to win more games we need exceptional coaching, which is X's & O's.

Because we don't pay money upfront we're not ever going to recruit at an elite level, so the only way for us to win now is to be the better coached team. Then once we win we'll recruit at a higher level.

The way to fix the problems our program has been having for the last 15 years is through Coaching.
 
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The only team in the nation that I would call a contender who's still running a majority of their offense under center is Georgia. Clemson, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, even teams like Notre Dame and Texas have transitioned into some variation of the spread.

Not every version of the spread/air raid is the same either. We would not have to go hurry up the entire game (not a huge fan) nor would we be limiting ourselves to an all passing attack like Washington State.

I have always found it ridiculous that a team like Miami who always has good skill talent would want to line up in a power formation and just try to out-muscle their opponents with their offensive line. It's like taking the Golden State Warriors and saying you want to start running their offense out of the low post by dumping it inside to the center.

The best coordinators find ways to work around their teams' weak areas. Clearly, Miami's offensive line is the weak link of their offense. Maybe, instead of trying to force a power running game or making the quarterback take deep drops with play action, Enos can speed it up. Not by going no huddle but by placing the QB in the shotgun and allowing him to see everything instead of turning his back to the play and wasting precious seconds with five and seven step drops. The line struggles to protect, you want the QB to get the snap, make the read and throw the ball as fast as possible. Asking your line, which struggles with protection, to have to hold protection for long periods of time is suicidal.

Enos can switch it up and we can make do with what we have or he can keep running out of the I into a crowded box with a bad offensive line. Mark Richt did the same thing midway through 2016 and it salvaged our season.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
That offense only works when it scores every possession...but when the other team's defense figures you out and starts stopping that $h!t, now you gotta play football. And it leaves the defense on the field waaaaay too long.
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As opposed to what, our style of play now?

Has the 40-50 plays per game moving at snails pace under center offense keeping our Defense fresh been winning us games in the last 5 years???
 
NicKane said:
Are serious dude? **** you’re a ******* moron! Gundy has had more success then our last 4 coaches put together. What that dude has done at OSU is a small miracle. And before the eventual well mark had a lot of success at Georgia BS, news flash Georgia has everything under the sun to be successful and win NCs. So with that said marky underperformed there. You think they have those advantages at okie state? Gtfoh
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Yeah. Throw in the de facto opinion that Stillwater is HICKS-VILLE. Akin to what Leach has to deal with, recruiting anyone, in OBSCURE Pullman, Washington. LMFAO
 
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NicKane said:
Are serious dude? **** you’re a ******* moron! Gundy has had more success then our last 4 coaches put together. What that dude has done at OSU is a small miracle. And before the eventual well mark had a lot of success at Georgia BS, news flash Georgia has everything under the sun to be successful and win NCs. So with that said marky underperformed there. You think they have those advantages at okie state? Gtfoh
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You're living in 2010-11. Gundy is on seven straight seasons with 3 losses minimum. In year 14, he went 7-6 and was unranked.

Like I said, guys who have never "killed it" won't all of a sudden start killing it just because we have a U on our helmets.
 
Liberty City El said:
We lose to teams with less talent than us because they have better coaching.

Jimmy's & Joes are obviously most important, but that's dependent on recruiting & we don't recruit at a high level so in order to put ourselves in a better position to win more games we need exceptional coaching, which is X's & O's.

Because we don't pay money upfront we're not ever going to recruit at an elite level, so the only way for us to win now is to be the better coached team. Then once we win we'll recruit at a higher level.

The way to fix the problems our program has been having for the last 15 years is through Coaching.
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The vast majority of CaneInsight dudes were ridiculing McIwain, but he and his defensive staff OUT COACHED both Diaz and his boy Enos Saturn day past. hUh
 
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