Is yearby in a camp

[canestim]

Playing Gus over Yearby was a dumb football decision. Yearby, even with his slow long speed was a much better running back than Edwards.

Still, staying another year playing behind Walton wouldn't have improved Yearby's speed or improved his draft stock.

Was it dumb? Like Peter said his mind was made up. So we had a guy who was definitely gone (Yearby) and a guy who was unhappy being 3rd string who might leave (Gus). Play the guy who is just doing ok and is leaving anyway or play the guy who will give similar production who is possibly staying but might need convincing? At first I was with you but now I'm not so sure, lots of stuff behind the scenes too.

 

[umhurricane2511]

At least he got his degree....

 

[MIATL]

Those practice squad paychecks aren't too bad if I'm being honest. Probably better than anything he would have gotten right out of school with his degree with a shot at the league. He didn't come back and risk a career ending injury in college without getting an opportunity in the league. At least now if he gets hurt it was chasing the dream.

1 year of college will always be attainable but a shot at the NFL isn't. With him already being small and slow, anything slowing him down would have ended it

But he's not on a roster ... He's getting a tryout. Nothing guaranteed about that.

He'll find a practice squad

I don't believe it's as automatic as you make it sound ...

Yearby will be given a look on Monday. The Redskins’ running back stable is down to five after Marshall’s injury, and Yearby will look to fill that gap. He’ll be a long shot to make the roster no matter what, but his skill set is intriguing at the least. Yearby is set to showcase his craft for the Redskins on Monday. Time will tell if that audition earns him a contract.

And the only reason he's in the Redskins' camp is because of injury ...

 

[kryptonite]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

How was staying going to help him?

You could ask that about pretty much anyone. Not many players change that much physically from junior to senior year. I think that there's more that goes into drafting/signing a player than his 40 time.

I don't know anything about Joe's attitude or his relationship with Rick or Rick's staff. But I've seen guys leave early who don't get good reviews from the coaches of the team they left. And if they're borderline draftable/signable, then teams stay away from them. You can certainly work on that attitude and maturity and approach during your senior season. That's something you can improve dramatically.

Take a look at Last Chance U. There were a couple guys on there with great ability who ****ed off their coaches and wound up with no D1 offers despite having D1 ability.

That's the first decent argument for him staying that I've heard. I wish he'd stayed because it might help my team, other than that, most people don't have any reason behind saying he shouldn't have left.

 

[kryptonite]

He left because he wont get burn here thats why.....why r people complaining he left too early. If he stayed he wouldnt play either....i just dont get why people r confused about this.

He left because his ego wouldn't allow him to accept that he's not as good as Dalvin Cook or Mark Walton.

He made a terrible decision for himself, and this team. Would have been nice to have Yearby and Homer as back-ups to Walton. That's quality depth, IMO.

Instead, we have 3 unknowns behind the starter.

WTF does Cook have to do with anything?

In the end, we lost out in not having him for depth but he's doing as well as he would have next year. ****, he might have gotten hurt if he'd stayed, so from his perspective leaving now might have been the smart(ish) choice.

Yearby and Cook played high school ball together. There have ALWAYS been comparisons between to the 2.

I'm of the opinion Yearby believes he's every bit as good as Cook. He probably believes he would have done the same things at FSU if they switched positions. So, in his mind .... He has top draft pick talent, even if the tape doesn't show it. That's what Cook has to do with it.

And speaking of injuries ... Yearby would have been 1 Walton injury away from being the starter. But that doesn't matter any more than your "he might have gotten hurt if he stayed" argument. None of these athletes are thinking about getting injured. That's a hindsight, or fan perspective. These guys all believe they are invincible.

The only reason guys should ever leave early is if they are going to get drafted, AND can't better their draft position. Or, if they have eligibility issues. Outside of that, stay in school ... Finish your degree ... Help your team.

Yearby probably would have made more money with his UM football stipend than he's making on NFL tryouts.

NFL Draft 2017: What's the difference between an undrafted free agent and a rookie minicamp tryout? | NJ.com

"The guy who's coming in on a tryout means that everyone had a chance to draft him and they passed," the agent said. "And then everyone would have had a chance to sign him to a free-agent contract and they passed. So it's that next level. Usually they'll sign a couple of guys."


Of course, there are some financial differences. There's a modest amount of guaranteed money invested in an undrafted free agent, while a tryout player isn't guaranteed anything.

"The main difference is if you're an undrafted free agent, you sign your contract immediately," the agent said. "If you're getting invited for a tryout, you're not signing a contract. You're basically going out there with a two- or thee-day tryout and then they decide out of this pool of 15 or 20 guys they brought in, 'OK, we're going to sign this one or that one.' Then at that point, (tryout players) sign their contract as an undrafted free agent."

Maybe Yearby is carrying the ghost of Cook on his back, but it shouldn't have anything to do with staying in college or not as Cook isn't a Cane.

As for making more on his stipend I would point you back to your post. Much like these kids thinking they won't get hurt, they all think they'll succeed in the NFL. I doubt most of them would have gotten to play D1 ball without an unshakable belief in themselves.

 

[rok]

I don't care if Yearby returned fatter and slower, he would still be our best option backing up Walton.

673 yards from scrimmage and 7 TDs won't be so easily replaced.

 

[GenericYesMan]

I wonder if Yearby knew that Gus was going to transfer he would have stuck around. Probably ****ed that he didn't have that information before declaring.

 

[simplycanes]

Playing Gus over Yearby was a dumb football decision. Yearby, even with his slow long speed was a much better running back than Edwards.

Still, staying another year playing behind Walton wouldn't have improved Yearby's speed or improved his draft stock.

Was it dumb? Like Peter said his mind was made up. So we had a guy who was definitely gone (Yearby) and a guy who was unhappy being 3rd string who might leave (Gus). Play the guy who is just doing ok and is leaving anyway or play the guy who will give similar production who is possibly staying but might need convincing? At first I was with you but now I'm not so sure, lots of stuff behind the scenes too.

Play the guy who gives you the best chance to win the game(s).

A lot about the way we handled the RB situation last year is very strange.

No issue with Walton > Yearby & Edwards

Issue with Edwards > Yearby

 

[The Franchise]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

How was staying going to help him?

You could ask that about pretty much anyone. Not many players change that much physically from junior to senior year. I think that there's more that goes into drafting/signing a player than his 40 time.

I don't know anything about Joe's attitude or his relationship with Rick or Rick's staff. But I've seen guys leave early who don't get good reviews from the coaches of the team they left. And if they're borderline draftable/signable, then teams stay away from them. You can certainly work on that attitude and maturity and approach during your senior season. That's something you can improve dramatically.

Take a look at Last Chance U. There were a couple guys on there with great ability who ****ed off their coaches and wound up with no D1 offers despite having D1 ability.

That's the first decent argument for him staying that I've heard. I wish he'd stayed because it might help my team, other than that, most people don't have any reason behind saying he shouldn't have left.

Along those same lines, a lot of people thought our UM hero Colbert had a a bad attitude because he was in Chaz *******'s giant dopey dog house. His measurable and speed wouldn't have changed much after his junior year at Texas. I'm sure there were people telling him that he should try to go to the NFL after his junior season.

As it turns out, he proved to everyone he has one of the best attitudes in the history of football, and I'm sure Rick and company screamed his praises to NFL teams from the rooftops.

 

[Gi0logy]

Some of y'all act like Yearby ****ed in your cheerios this morning or kidnapped your family. If he finds a way to make a team and proves to be a serviceable bacl I guarantee your tones will change. You'll be asking for him to show up to Paradise Camp in a few years.

Granted this is unlikely to happen lol but ffs y'all bitter af. Yearby was a Cane. I hope he makes it and if he does I'll definitely be rooting for him. He left early, get over it....some of y'all need to chill and realize this is just a kid trying to make ish happen.

 

[jjacks93]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

how does him coming back to be a backup help with that ?

 

[ghetto_gepetto]

Some of y'all act like Yearby ****ed in your cheerios this morning or kidnapped your family. If he finds a way to make a team and proves to be a serviceable bacl I guarantee your tones will change. You'll be asking for him to show up to Paradise Camp in a few years.

Granted this is unlikely to happen lol but ffs y'all bitter af. Yearby was a Cane. I hope he makes it and if he does I'll definitely be rooting for him. He left early, get over it....some of y'all need to chill and realize this is just a kid trying to make ish happen.

exactly. that's why people here care about him and wished that he made a better choice for HIS and his family's sake.

 

[bshaw28]

The handling of the RB's was weird all year last year.

When Yearby outplayed Walton in October and didn't get any more carries, he probably let the coaches know he was going pro then. I'm assuming that's why gus started getting more carries. What would be the point of coming back for a Senior year with no chance of competing for the starting job? It could have made his draft stock even lower. Better to go pro.

His chance of making a team would have been no better next year than it was this year.

 

[DTP]

I hope he gets to work on finishing up that degree.

 

[Notsince1985]

I don't care if Yearby returned fatter and slower, he would still be our best option backing up Walton.

673 yards from scrimmage and 7 TDs won't be so easily replaced.

You're selling Crispian Atkins short

 

[The Franchise]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

how does him coming back to be a backup help with that ?

Well, we have actual proof of what happened when he left early. Undrafted and not even signed anywhere to be able to go to a camp and prove himself. Coming back for another year couldn't have resulted in anything worse than that result.

 

[simplycanes]

Oh come on, I highly doubt that the staff felt that Yearby was a better back than Edwards, but sat him anyways because he was "going pro."

If that is the logic, then Mark Walton better watch out, the boogie man gonna bench 'em.

It's crystal clear that Yearby made a miscalculation regarding his NFL potential. There's just no debating that as much as some of you try. Go back in time and present him with this outcome-- not drafted, struggling to find a camp, no income-- and ask him if he makes the same decision. He does not. Guaranteed.

Likewise, it's pretty clear the staff made a miscalculation regarding Edwards. He wasn't, nor isn't better than Yearby. Period. And then he left anyhow.

The entire RB situation last year was handled poorly. You lost both your #2 and #3 RB for no particular reason. It's on all of them.

 

[jjacks93]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

how does him coming back to be a backup help with that ?

Well, we have actual proof of what happened when he left early. Undrafted and not even signed anywhere to be able to go to a camp and prove himself. Coming back for another year couldn't have resulted in anything worse than that result.

We can say that in hindsight but I don't think he left early anticipating he wouldn't get picked up. He probably thought he could atleast tryout and make a team and get some type of salary . Him coming back is a GUARANTEED additional year without a salary , with minimal benefits

 

[drifters1234]

I'm rooting hard for Joe. If he can have a Ronnie Harmon type of career...a 3rd down specialist, he'll be just fine. He's def not an every down back, but on 3rd downs and you need a be coming out the back field, Joe is your guy. Hopefully he gets a crack.

It would be a major upset at this point for him to have a Ronnie Harmon-type career. ****, he'll be happy if he makes a practice squad.

 

[kryptonite]

Doesn't he have a kid with another on the way ? I thought that's why he left .

How did leaving early help him with that?

how does him coming back to be a backup help with that ?

Well, we have actual proof of what happened when he left early. Undrafted and not even signed anywhere to be able to go to a camp and prove himself. Coming back for another year couldn't have resulted in anything worse than that result.

But he a) didn't know for sure it wouldn't work b) is young and dumb, c) is very confident in himself like every other athlete and d) didn't think he'd get meaningful PT this year. All that added up to him believing it was worth a shot. We all thought it was a bad move, but we're all a bunch of old geezers with life experience. Kid's an adult who needs to make choices but he's got little experience in the real world. We've all been there.