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Is there a WR1 on this team?

ST26 said:
Okay so it's only height and speed for you, got it.

I hate the fact that X not getting drafted takes away from what he did here. He was one of the best WRs in college football last year, plain and simple. The only reason he wasn't a day two pick was because he decided to run the 40 injured
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Agree about restrepo. Big mistake running the 40. Doesn't take away what he did here for me. All time great Cane. Not a 1 though

It's more than height and speed. Tommy Steeter had both and he didn't do jack. It's play making ability. It's route running. It's twitch and explosive. It's hands. It's attitude. It's Jeremiah Smith. It's T.O. it's Randy Moss. It's Andre Johnson. It's Megatron. Larry Fitzgerald. Julio Jones.

I understand every team has a starting WR on the outside. I understand that being considered WR1. I just see WR1 as something different
 
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Elmer Leghorn said:
Agree about restrepo. Big mistake running the 40. Doesn't take away what he did here for me. All time great Cane. Not a 1 though

It's more than height and speed. Tommy Steeter had both and he didn't do jack. It's play making ability. It's route running. It's twitch and explosive. It's hands. It's attitude. It's Jeremiah Smith. It's T.O. it's Randy Moss. It's Andre Johnson. It's Megatron. Larry Fitzgerald. Julio Jones.

I understand every team has a starting WR on the outside. I understand that being considered WR1. I just see WR1 as something different
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So based on your standards of a WR1, we don’t even need one do we? Ward was just fine without one in 2024(number one offense in the country). Beck technically didn’t have one in 2023. Look at the numbers he put up

All the “WR1” examples you gave are some of the best WRs this sport has ever seen, which is why I hate the term. You can still have a very good WR room without having a generational player there. Based on your criteria and examples you gave, there is only two teams with a true WR1: Bama (Williams) and OSU (Smith)
 
ST26 said:
So based on your standards of a WR1, we don’t even need one do we? Ward was just fine without one in 2024(number one offense in the country). Beck technically didn’t have one in 2023. Look at the numbers he put up

All the “WR1” examples you gave are some of the best WRs this sport has ever seen, which is why I hate the term. You can still have a very good WR room without having a generational player there. Based on your criteria and examples you gave, there is only two teams with a true WR1: Bama (Williams) and OSU (Smith)
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We don't necessarily need one. Didn't have one last year. Many teams don't. We can have successful season without one. Nice to have one though. I think Jojo, Toney, Carr, and the transfers will be fine and enough. I could see Moore getting snaps too. Play the young talent.
 
JHallCanes said:
Agreed and man that’s the luck of being a Miami fan right there
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For WR1 over last 20 years we had 1 season of Rambo/Richards/Hankerson/Hurns. Richards only one who had athletic profile to have been big-time NFL player. Good Lord.

On bright side WR room for this year look a lot better after you refresh your memory on what we've had last 20 years lol
 
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Based on practice, I think Trader can be the guy. He is more talented than any of our receivers last year. But he needs to do it in a game and he needs to prove he can physically hold up. The summer is huge for him in terms of strength and conditioning.
 
Don't disagree with the question but... Did we have a clear WR1 last year?

Restrepo was a solid slot but when I talk WR1 I picture an outside guy that can take the top off
 
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COCane4Life said:
I hate the “WR1” label. Restrepo was clearly WR1 last year but because he’s a short, slow slot we minimize his impact.

A WR1 is a go to guy regardless of where he lines up. If you want to say X receiver that’s completely different but it’s worth the clarification.
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I agree with this definition of WR1 is the guy you can call on in crunch time or even when defense is bracketing him, etc and they guy still finds a way to make plays. Don’t care where they line up or what their nfl future looks like.

X was that and he will be missed.

Don’t know if we will have any go to WR this year. Jojo and Moore have the best physical traits. Lofton will/should get wr1 number of targets this year.
 
COCane4Life said:
I hate the “WR1” label. Restrepo was clearly WR1 last year but because he’s a short, slow slot we minimize his impact.

A WR1 is a go to guy regardless of where he lines up. If you want to say X receiver that’s completely different but it’s worth the clarification.
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I’m with you certainly would never minimize that kids impact

Was curious what other people’s thoughts were
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
This times a billion.

Show me the rosters in the ACC (or ****, even in America), who have this in their WR room:

Top 50 OVERALL recruit, Top 10 WR
Top 70 OVERALL recruit, Top 15 WR
#135 overall blue-chip
Top 125 overall recruit, Top 17 WR
Blue-chip composite 4-star
Blue-chip composite 4-star
Player with 148 catches for 2400+ yards and 21 TDs in his college career, 6th year grown man
Player with 76 catches for over 1100 yards and 7 TDs along with 5 rushing scores in college, 5th year

This does not include Chance Robinson or Bryce Fitzgerald, by the way, both who were composite 4-star kids.

Do I wish we had 5000 yards of receiving production coming back? Of course. Am I saying there is nothing at all to worry about here? Of course not.

But some of you guys have allowed the portal to scramble your brains. This is still college football. It's still MAJORLY predicated on high school recruiting. Yes, portal kids contribute to winning teams. Does Taint win a natty without Howard, Downs, and Judkins? Maybe not. But they probably don't win it without Egbuka, Smiff, and Henderson, either. Not to mention a ton of other kids they recruited, just as an example of one program.

We got a QB in the portal. One of the best in America. We have some very good athletes and some returning production in the TE room. We have one of the best offensive lines in the country. We have 2 kids in the backfield who we stole flat out from Ryan Day's dyed mustache. Both of who got heavy offers to bounce in the portal, and didn't.

So yes, we have to have some kids step up at receiver. So do about 98% of the teams in the country. And not many of those have Carson Beck standing behind a knock your **** in the dirt offensive line.

Jeremiah Smith was the most ready-made WR prospect I've seen since Julio Jones. But there were plenty of folks I heard in 2022 and 2023 talking about Jojo Trader being not far behind in terms of ceiling and talent, but JJ just had the grown man's body as a Sophomore. Jojo needed a touch more development. But a kid who was the #42 overall player in America with a year of learning under a proven good teacher in the same exact system should be able to give you WR1 production. Or **** close to it.

Talent on paper hasn't translated to the field very well at Miami recently, but it needs to start or all of this is moot anyway. If we can't take all that talent I listed and produce a solid WR corps, then we have the wrong coaches and none of this matters.
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But Miami has signed blue chip WRs for years. And can’t develop them.
 
scrantoncane said:
But Miami has signed blue chip WRs for years. And can’t develop them.
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None of those coaches are here.

None of those players are here.

Horton got a lot better here. George got a lot better here. Restrepo got a lot better here. Arroyo was praised endlessly in his draft evals as being able to run the entire tree.

Silly argument.
 
DMoney said:
It's pretty well-documented that Miami wanted a WR1 in the Portal. Unfortunately, they didn't have the QB lined up in winter (when supply was good) and the supply wasn't there in the spring. So it ends up as a miss.

But someone still needs to fill the targets. Who is going to emerge as the WR1? Keelan Marion strikes me more as a versatile #4, and CJ Daniels is more of a contested catch/possession guy until he proves he's as healthy as he was at Liberty.

IMO, the upside of this group will depend on the emergence and health of JoJo Trader and Malachi Toney. Those are the two with clear star potential.
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Likely Jo Jo Trader.
 
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