Is the decline real at UGA?

[90scane]

I think he's trying to say because Muschamp's son plays for Vandy he's always on the road attending Vandy's games to watch him play. And whenever Vandy isn't playing, Muschamp is free to step in and run UGA's defense and make it look how it's supposed to look. That Lanning was/Schumann is just a figurehead DC.

He has limits due to not being on staff as a coach. Once his kid is done, he will have the time and interest to potentially take it on. In the meantime, I suspect there are multiple reasons for him to not. Don’t even know his buyout terms for example.

 

[joeB954]

Georgia has lost 1 home game in 6 years. They won SEC championship juss last year. They gone be aiiight.

The SEC really wasn’t **** last year. A terrible Florida team was beating SEC teams. GT had to gift wrap and hand Georgia the game they played.

 

[clg003]

Please define this term.

I think he is a dumb coach who got in on Georgia when it was ready to pop. Now that there is parity he will struggle. His record against Bama says everything. He was favored in most of those games. He should have easily won last weekend. Idiot doesn’t kick a field goal to ride the momentum when he knows they’ve figured out Alabamas offense.

 

[poncho0091]

The SEC really wasn’t **** last year. A terrible Florida team was beating SEC teams. GT had to gift wrap and hand Georgia the game they played.

Refs handed UGA that game, but yea, GT should have won.

 

[TboneJones]

Getting 1 5* when other schools are still getting 3 or 4 isn't parity. You are conflating improvement with equal. The overwhelming majority of top players are still going to the same places. The stranglehold has loosened and players aren't sticking around anymore, but they are still firmly ahead. The problem is when teams are successful coaching staffs are poached and these replacements have been detrimental. Lanning leaving uga hurt more than NIL or the portal imo.

Not every 5 star will pan out. Even when Bama and UGA were stockpiling 5 stars about half of each class would wash out by either being busts or they'd transfer out, etc. That whole blue chip ratio doesn't mean much to good coaches and talent evaluators. Coaches like Harbaugh and Mario.

 

[TboneJones]

He has limits due to not being on staff as a coach. Once his kid is done, he will have the time and interest to potentially take it on. In the meantime, I suspect there are multiple reasons for him to not. Don’t even know his buyout terms for example.

Muschamp is on the staff as an analyst. And, analysts can coach.

 

[TboneJones]

The SEC really wasn’t **** last year. A terrible Florida team was beating SEC teams. GT had to gift wrap and hand Georgia the game they played.

The SEC has been **** the last 5 years or so if we're honest. The league was top heavy 5 years ago with UGA and Bama at the top but after them there wasn't much. I think it's due to bad coaching in the SEC overall.

 

[90scane]

Muschamp is on the staff as an analyst. And, analysts can coach.

Unless rules have changed, there are limits to what they can do. One specific is recruiting. There are or used to be headset limits not sure if that is an issue now. I’m sure there are/were others. In the end, he is set Moneywise so he gets to control what/how he does things.

 

[TheOGCane]

I doubt the best coach in football would hire Mike Bobo as OC and Stacy Searels as Oline coach in 2025

Name one coach you got as BETTER than Kirby smart

 

[90scane]

Name one coach you got as BETTER than Kirby smart

X/o, recruiter, program builder or full package?

Kirby is top 5 but lacks on the program side. He is missing on the impact of the portal. Lands top kids but the losses out the side door are killing his team. He also hasn’t come to terms with his OC sucking. That alone could be the root cause for some big departures.

 

[TrumpyCane]

The funniest thing TrumpyCane read on here is someone thinking Smart would let Muschamp be a part time DC and choose when he wants to coach

 

[90scane]

The funniest thing TrumpyCane read on here is someone thinking Smart would let Muschamp be a part time DC and choose when he wants to coach

It happened all last year. He is a ft staffer

 

[TboneJones]

The funniest thing TrumpyCane read on here is someone thinking Smart would let Muschamp be a part time DC and choose when he wants to coach

Deny reality all you want. But, what I've said about Muschamp's role is common knowledge.

 

[joeB954]

The SEC has been **** the last 5 years or so if we're honest. The league was top heavy 5 years ago with UGA and Bama at the top but after them there wasn't much. I think it's due to bad coaching in the SEC overall.

They prop up their teams rankings so high and when teams lose, they barely drop. Their excuse is oh they beat up on each other all year and everybody is good. It’s a lie and a way to keep two conferences on top.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

The thing is, Kirby was never that great of a HC. He just had an UNREAL talent advantage.

Lol.

 

[OldhamA]

I think he is a dumb coach who got in on Georgia when it was ready to pop. Now that there is parity he will struggle. His record against Bama says everything. He was favored in most of those games. He should have easily won last weekend. Idiot doesn’t kick a field goal to ride the momentum when he knows they’ve figured out Alabamas offense.

He simply brought the Saban bag game to Georgia. That's all Dabo did at Clemson too.

 

[Rellyrell]

I hear your point loud and clear, but it’s hard to deny what we’re seeing on the field right now. Vanderbilt is a prime example. Good talent doesn’t want to sit and be depth anymore with the transfer portal.

Georgia can keep buying recruiting classes, and that will inevitably make them a perennial contender, but now Texas Tech can take all their backups and Georgia is left with significantly less depth than they used to have.

Top end talent is still fairly consolidated, but depth is where we’re seeing the biggest difference. And that transferred depth is going to places it never would have gone in the bag era.

Additionally, you keep talking about continued domination by these historic bag schools. I’m not seeing a truly dominant tier of CFB a la Bama, UGA, Clemson of old. I’m seeing those schools still winning (other than Clemson, lol), but not in the same fashion. That’s a good thing.

So, if O$U stays healthy, they should be in the natty - their starting 22 is a better team top to bottom than 99% of America right now. But if we start to see some big injuries from these top teams down the stretch, they no longer have the depth to make up for it.

Vandy has nothing to do w NIL. Lol. Vandy went 7-6 last yr; they hit on a JUCO QB who’s old enough to be some of ya’ll pops, bruh. Lol.

U guys r over reacting off of 4 games, & quite frankly I’m a bit shocked. U see a big time kid commit to some of these obscure schools like we haven’t seen this pre NIL. I mean my God, the #2 WR in the nation, Stefon Diggs, committed to Maryland in 2012. Travis Hunter, the #1 player in the nation, committed to HBCU Jackson St in 2022.

I feel there’s more wishful thinking vs. reality. Indiana has a **** good coach, & anyone who knows me on this board knows I was singing Cigneti’s praise before the Hoosier’s job. Unfortunately, the other issue is some of u r conflating great coaching w NIL parity.

Let’s examine ur Texas Tech example; they r trying to pay for guys, great, & the moment I see them in the Top 5, then I’ll say “boy, they r really evening the playing field.” Until then, it’s a cool story.

Oh, here’s anothetr secret, TT has been paying for kids on the low for a while. They just didn’t have the same amount of boosters like UT, SMU, but oil $$ flowed through there. My young frat brother played w Pat Mahomes, & I can tell u stories, but that’s not neither here nor there.

They’ve also had top 5-10 guys at their position play for them b4 like Jack Anderson in 2017, but the reason they’ve gotten buzz is b/c they have a brash booster openly saying he’ll pay, yet they still haven’t cracked the top 5, 10, or even 15. Maaaaaybe they can do that in 2027.

 

[90scane]

Vandy has nothing to do w NIL. Lol. Vandy went 7-6 last yr; they hit on a JUCO QB who’s old enough to be some of ya’ll pops, bruh. Lol.

U guys r over reacting off of 4 games, & quite frankly I’m a bit shocked. U see a big time kid commit to some of these obscure schools like we haven’t seen this pre NIL. I mean my God, the #2 WR in the nation, Stefon Diggs, committed to Maryland in 2012. Travis Hunter, the #1 player in the nation, committed to HBCU Jackson St in 2022.

I feel there’s more wishful thinking vs. reality. Indiana has a **** good coach, & anyone who knows me on this board knows I was singing Cigneti’s praise before the Hoosier’s job. Unfortunately, the other issue is some of u r conflating great coaching w NIL parity.

Let’s examine ur Texas Tech example; they r trying to pay for guys, great, & the moment I see them in the Top 5, then I’ll say “boy, they r really evening the playing field.” Until then, it’s a cool story.

Oh, here’s anothetr secret, TT has been paying for kids on the low for a while. They just didn’t have the same amount of boosters like UT, SMU, but oil $$ flowed through there. My young frat brother played w Pat Mahomes, & I can tell u stories, but that’s not neither here nor there.

They’ve also had top 5-10 guys at their position play for them b4 like Jack Anderson in 2017, but the reason they’ve gotten buzz is b/c they have a brash booster openly saying he’ll pay, yet they still haven’t cracked the top 5, 10, or even 15. Maaaaaybe they can do that in 2027.

Top 5,10, 15 in recruiting rankings? If so, who cares besides you? At this point, it isn’t just about HS kids. Heck, your own post proves it with Vandy taking grandpa.

Land a good class (top 25) annually and clean it up with portal kids, development, and good X/o coaching. Heck, that n Texas coach has identified 4 no bodies at qb that have all turned into d1 starters up to first pick. You don’t need a 5star QB if you can evaluate talent.

to take it a step further, the bag schools are likely miss allocating funds by putting too much into kids that need 2-3 years to develop for their schemes but have high ceilings and low appetites for sitting. Those kids come in, want to play, want paid, and leave for schools more willing to give them PT and more money.

Instead, schools could admit that free agency is better for them and grab kids that have 1-2 year of experience that were lower ranked harder workers…and portal them over(Lucas). This is why I’ve wanted Miami to stop going after HS QBs and just take two from the portal. 1 senior with 3 years experience. 1 sophomore with a year experience(n Texas kid for example, lane taking d2 kid). You then see if Judd/luke develop. Keep taking lower end kids with high ceilings that won’t ask for millions because they want a chance to be Cam, Beck…

 

[clg003]

He simply brought the Saban bag game to Georgia. That's all Dabo did at Clemson too.

Dabo has his own specific view on things and brought in good coaches. That view has become outdated and his good coaches were cherry picked. I fully see what’s happening to Clemson happening to Georgia. It’s time for a program like Miami to explode. I could see the same for FSU but they just are not ready to commit to what it takes to be in that position. I think A&M and Oklahoma have positioned themselves nicely as well. I would definitely buy stock in those 3 programs right now.

 

[texascane12]

Vandy has nothing to do w NIL. Lol. Vandy went 7-6 last yr; they hit on a JUCO QB who’s old enough to be some of ya’ll pops, bruh. Lol.

U guys r over reacting off of 4 games, & quite frankly I’m a bit shocked. U see a big time kid commit to some of these obscure schools like we haven’t seen this pre NIL. I mean my God, the #2 WR in the nation, Stefon Diggs, committed to Maryland in 2012. Travis Hunter, the #1 player in the nation, committed to HBCU Jackson St in 2022.

I feel there’s more wishful thinking vs. reality. Indiana has a **** good coach, & anyone who knows me on this board knows I was singing Cigneti’s praise before the Hoosier’s job. Unfortunately, the other issue is some of u r conflating great coaching w NIL parity.

Let’s examine ur Texas Tech example; they r trying to pay for guys, great, & the moment I see them in the Top 5, then I’ll say “boy, they r really evening the playing field.” Until then, it’s a cool story.

Oh, here’s anothetr secret, TT has been paying for kids on the low for a while. They just didn’t have the same amount of boosters like UT, SMU, but oil $$ flowed through there. My young frat brother played w Pat Mahomes, & I can tell u stories, but that’s not neither here nor there.

They’ve also had top 5-10 guys at their position play for them b4 like Jack Anderson in 2017, but the reason they’ve gotten buzz is b/c they have a brash booster openly saying he’ll pay, yet they still haven’t cracked the top 5, 10, or even 15. Maaaaaybe they can do that in 2027.

If the AP poll is your metric for parity (the one that still has Texas as the #9 team), then I don't know what to tell you, bruh. Vandy is a perfect example of the level of parity in college football. The fact that Vanderbilt is able to even compete says a lot, along with the Texas Tech's of the world.

All you're talking about here, again, is recruiting and NIL. There's a massive third factor that you haven't been mentioning which is the transfer portal. The teams at the top of the recruiting rankings are simply not able to retain all of that talent like they used to, as that talent is not interested in sitting on the bench anymore. That, to me, coupled with the newfound NIL spending at previously obscure schools, absolutely is leveling the playing field. If nothing else, the fact that this many teams have great rosters says a lot, even if it is still the "blue bloods", more of them have talent than a decade ago, which won't allow any of them to absolutely reign over college football because the talent is more dispersed. The top 4 teams used to ***** slap other top 15 teams in a way that we simply have not seen the past few years (maybe other than O$U over Oregon in the playoffs last year).

Also, to a previous point I made, change takes time. We're going to continue to see the shift of power as the top teams can no longer guarantee a championship every year, and other schools are producing more first round talent (as a product of having better talent on campus). Boosters at current lesser schools will see that the talent is leveling out and step up financially. I don't think we'll ever see parity to the point where anyone in the top 25 could win a championship, but I do believe we're moving towards a scenario where anyone in the 12 team playoff could legitamately make a run. Whereas in the 2010's, the top 4 teams preseason were almost guaranteed to be there at the end of the season.

This isn't based off of 4 games. This is based on trend analysis and using my eyeballs over the past few years to see that the big bad Alabama's and Georgia's of the pre-NIL era just don't exist right now. And thats a great thing.