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Is Keyshawn Smith our best WR

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The Franchise said:
This is the guy I was screaming for all last season while Mope and Mrs. Wiggins were eating 70+ reps per game.

Cue the Manure Munchers to tell us how Key had COVID 37 times during the season and was only available for 6 minutes, so it wasn’t the coaches’ fault for not playing him.
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He flashed every time he was on the field. I don't know what the **** the coaches were thinking. ****, Redding looked way better than those two as well and he also barely played.
 
BS85 said:
He should have started last year. He's definitely better than Pope and Wiggins, not debatable. It's hard to say if he's the best wr though since the coaches don't give playing time based upon talent at that position. ****, Restrepo might be the best one but we'd never know as he didn't really get a chance.
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This narrative is mostly based on last year. I'm willing to bet, most guys didn't get reps because of no spring and covid positives. Honestly how do most of us even know they were consistently better than Pope & Wiggins?
 
Didn't get enough reps last year to really know what we have with him. The thing I did see is that he has the speed to take the top off the defense, something we didn't really have these last years. He has the tools to be a very productive player in this offense.

I am curious to see what he can do and if the coaching staff is actually letting the best players play. It's not on the younger players if the older guys are not getting it or not putting in the best effort to be the best players they can be. I can live with a bad game, it happens to the best of them. But if you continuously let pope or wiggins play, after they dropped passes all season left and right it just doesn't sit well with the younger players and it is hard to really keep accountabilty. Plus some players just get too comfortable and don't really strive to be their best self because they know that they got their starting spot handed to them.

I am curious.... Highly doubt that Wiggins or Pope are really the best receivers we can put out there. We will get a sense of this by the end of spring practice and during fall camp I guess.
 
BS85 said:
He should have started last year. He's definitely better than Pope and Wiggins, not debatable. It's hard to say if he's the best wr though since the coaches don't give playing time based upon talent at that position. ****, Restrepo might be the best one but we'd never know as he didn't really get a chance.
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Your post is debatable, how could he be better if he didn't take some of pope or wiggins snaps let alone one of there spots. I guess we will see going forward!
 
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305to954 said:
I mean..you do realize that if he becomes a better player in 22 it doesn’t necessarily (really not at all) mean he was that player in 20 and 21 right.

but to answer the question directly no key is not our best WR rn. Harley and Mallory are our best pass catchers returning and 3 is the best WR. Due to production at a high level program at OU and the tools he possesses Rambo would be right with those two

EVERYONE ELSE is grouped together in the same position. Unlike Last off szn they will have every chance to prove in the spring and summer group workouts they deserve PT..I pitty those here when Pope and wigs are once again in the rotation
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I don’t post enough here for me to expect you or anyone else to get my posting style so I will explain my post.

I like what I see so far from smith but the sample size is extremely limited. I hope that we eventually get to see more of him so we can see what he is made of. I like the way he moves on his routes. I would describe him as a glider. He never looks like he is running that hard. His movements are very fluid. I think he has a high ceiling.

As far as Manny goes, I like the way he has shown willingness to make changes when necessary, Enos, Baker, etc. whether manny is capable as a head coach is yet to be determined but I don’t think anyone can debate his willingness to do whatever it takes to be in a better position to win.

one thing manny doesn’t seem willing to blow up is that receiver room. I know covid and injuries are factors. But the bottom line is that statistics show Pope and Wiggins are two of the 5 worst wrs in the ACC. Their drop rates are beyond unacceptable. Not once did either get benched. Harley picked up his game as the season went on and he is a nice component to a wr group. In minimal reps both Redding and Smith showed me a little. Yet they never saw the field. If they were not ready the coaches need to have some accountability there. To be honest, the way 6&8 performed I would have rather seen 3 TE sets with Mallory Jordan and Hodges. I’ve seen Hodges catch the ball. It doesn’t matter how fast you are or how open you get if you can’t catch.

I’m not confident we will see a deeper wr rotation than Harley, Rambo, 6&8. I hope I’m wrong but history says that is your rotation getting 90%+ of the reps and if so I’m not happy about it.
 
swisscane said:
Didn't get enough reps last year to really know what we have with him. The thing I did see is that he has the speed to take the top off the defense, something we didn't really have these last years. He has the tools to be a very productive player in this offense.

I am curious to see what he can do and if the coaching staff is actually letting the best players play. It's not on the younger players if the older guys are not getting it or not putting in the best effort to be the best players they can be. I can live with a bad game, it happens to the best of them. But if you continuously let pope or wiggins play, after they dropped passes all season left and right it just doesn't sit well with the younger players and it is hard to really keep accountabilty. Plus some players just get too comfortable and don't really strive to be their best self because they know that they got their starting spot handed to them.

I am curious.... Highly doubt that Wiggins or Pope are really the best receivers we can put out there. We will get a sense of this by the end of spring practice and during fall camp I guess.
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We have/had guys besides smith take the top off just because u don't like wiggins, pope, harley doesn't mean they can't run i seen all three take the top off in games. Wiggins vs fspoo, harley vs Louisville, pope vs duke i believe?
 
scorpio40 said:
Your post is debatable, how could he be better if he didn't take some of pope or wiggins snaps let alone one of there spots. I guess we will see going forward!
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Not trying to be rude but it isn't debatable. He flashed every time he played and it's easy to see he's better than 6 and 8 who are absolutely horrible (not trying to be mean to them but it's the truth).
 
luciano.8 said:
Gimme Harley, Rambo and Smith all **** day. Would love to see X make a jump. I can see him being our go to return man.
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We didn't have depth and likens didn't trust the pups last year!, pups have a year of experience now plus more depth. I believe if pope or wigg don't improve they won't start but will be on da rotation.
 
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BS85 said:
Not trying to be rude but it isn't debatable. He flashed every time he played and it's easy to see he's better than 6 and 8 who are absolutely horrible (not trying to be mean to them but it's the truth).
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I didn't take it that way(rude)! but we will see because they cost us the bowl game and made the passing game inconsistent if we just catch da ball were 9-2!
 
scorpio40 said:
We have/had guys besides smith take the top off just because u don't like wiggins, pope, harley doesn't mean they can't run i seen all three take the top off in games. Wiggins vs fspoo, harley vs Louisville, pope vs duke i believe?
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Fair enough I get your point. Speed might not be the issue with Wiggins or Pope, yet the consistency on both these guys is subpar at best. Haven't seen a game in person so I can't say but out of curiosity because I really don't know : Did they get seperation and the ball wasn't going their way at the right time or is it just their ceiling that you have with those two guys not really being the players that we expected coming out of HS? Because let's be honest here, one big play against FSU and Duke doesn't scream "Deep Threat" to me.

With Harley it's a diffrent thing. I never gave up hope on him. Had a diffrent feeling about his mindset and his willingness to get right and be a leader.
 
I’ll mention it one more time for the people in the back. The wide receiver rotation is determined by the wide receiver coach. He said it in an interview a few weeks back. He did not trust enough guys to run a 6 man rotation at WR last year. Make of that what you will but considering he just got hired last season, he doesn’t have some weird favoritism ties to any of the guys on the roster. Also, there’s technically three different WR positions in this offense. The x, y and z. Most guys only know/play one position. If Pope and Wiggins were getting a majority of the snaps at x and z, that means that the backups at those two spots either didn’t know their roles or were actually dropping more balls than the guys ahead of them. Also consider the fact that Redding, a redshirt freshman, was the only reserve receiver who wasn’t a true freshman last year. Well, Marshal Few was a junior but I’m talking about scholarship guys. Payton, Smith, Restrepo and Worsham were all true freshmen who not only didn’t have any spring but also had Covid issues. Let’s remember a positive covid test didn’t just mean you can’t play, it means you can’t practice or workout with the team either. So, I can understand why Rob Likens wasn’t exactly comfortable with rolling out a bunch of unprepared true freshmen who had limited practice time for long stretches of games. It’s not PlayStation where every receiver automatically lines up in the right spot and runs the correct route for every play call. You start racking up illegal procedure penalties because a guy doesn’t have his foot on the line of scrimmage or you get costly turnovers because a guy runs the wrong way on an option route and the pass gets intercepted, then the fans start to notice that experience matters.
 
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