is golden so stubborn?

[cowboycane]

The true freshman excuse holds no water, because it's his choice to start him. Everyone said the kid was mature enough to handle it. From what I could tell, he could have thrown the ball down the field had they LET him.

Did you see what happened when Kaaya threw the ball down field to an open Dobard?
It got intercepted because it was woefully underthrown.
The teams fate was sealed when Golden and Coley decided to start a true freshman.
We were told that he is not a true freshman QB rather that he was a "University of Miami" QB which implied to not expect him to play like a true freshman.
Well that obviously wasn't the case.
Hard to imagine a 5th year senior in Heaps playing like a true freshman looking like a dear caught in headlights had they started him instead.
Has to be one of the worse moves in the Golden era.

Heaps. Is. Awful.

Period. That game would have gotten ugly a lot earlier if we had put that sad sack in. Kaaya has literally unlimited ceiling right now...we have seen Heaps' ceiling and it is a worse, weaker-armed version of Stephen Morris.

 

[CanesDominate]

Get a innnovative coach on offense and get Butch on D and Al could save his job.
otherwise that dude is gone, along with his terrible coordinators.

 

[Coach Macho]

Most coaches are stubborn and married to a system.

They all know football, but knowing football doesn't mean you know how to evaluate players and how to place them in positions to succeed. Stubborn coaches will try to fit a square peg into a round hole. They'll never change, they'll just continue to pound that peg until they find what they need to make it fit.

We see it every Saturday. Speed all over the field, on offense and defense, yet we run schemes that aren't speed-based. Louisville ran a 3-4 too, but they ran an aggressive upfield version. (speed based) On offense we utilize multiple TE's and a walk-on Fullback despite the fact that we have the fastest WR corp in the country and two RB's that are nightmares in space. We're playing Northeast/Midwestern football on both sides of the ball AND WE'RE MARRIED TO IT.

I agree with most. But there are some coaches that change their strategy.

Jim grobe for wake as an example. Was a option guy. Won the acc with more of a pro style.

No doubt. Good coaches adjust and change. I wasn't implying that they're ALL hardheaded. Sorry. I accidentally left that out.

 

[RaiseCane]

The whole discussion about Coley keeping the playbook limited because of Kaaya, and the discussion about how Louisville stacked the box because we were starting a true freshman isn't even the only issue. Realistically, no matter if we had started Heaps, Williams, Olsen or Kaaya, Louisville would have stacked the box. We were going to be starting either a first time QB or a QB that in his past has not proven to be particularly dangerous, and we have one of the best RBs in the country, so no matter who the QB was or is going forward, we were and will see the same defense until we give someone a reason to fear getting beat over the top.

Coley had to know that his gameplan for last week and for all season would have to be to do something in the passing game to show defenses that we can beat them in the intermediate and deep parts of the field with our speed (which we can) in order to open up the run game for Duke. We don't have to go all Stephen Morris, but we needed to and will need to do something to back teams off. This would have been the case with any of our QBs, so it's not some new development based on starting a freshman QB. Coley's general strategy, which he would build his gameplans off of, should have been based around finding ways to create space for Duke with the passing game. Unfortunately, that was not how we attacked. Until we make teams fear Dorsett, Coley, Waters, Berrios, etc., which they should, we're going to face the same stacked boxes with little running room and lots of frustration for Duke.

 

[Robbymoto]

Great post and 100% correct. That is a perfect synopsis of our situation.

Most coaches are stubborn and married to a system.

They all know football, but knowing football doesn't mean you know how to evaluate players and how to place them in positions to succeed. Stubborn coaches will try to fit a square peg into a round hole. They'll never change, they'll just continue to pound that peg until they find what they need to make it fit.

We see it every Saturday. Speed all over the field, on offense and defense, yet we run schemes that aren't speed-based. Louisville ran a 3-4 too, but they ran an aggressive upfield version. (speed based) On offense we utilize multiple TE's and a walk-on Fullback despite the fact that we have the fastest WR corp in the country and two RB's that are nightmares in space. We're playing Northeast/Midwestern football on both sides of the ball AND WE'RE MARRIED TO IT.

 

[TreOFive]

The true freshman excuse holds no water, because it's his choice to start him. Everyone said the kid was mature enough to handle it. From what I could tell, he could have thrown the ball down the field had they LET him.

Did you see what happened when Kaaya threw the ball down field to an open Dobard?
It got intercepted because it was woefully underthrown.
The teams fate was sealed when Golden and Coley decided to start a true freshman.
We were told that he is not a true freshman QB rather that he was a "University of Miami" QB which implied to not expect him to play like a true freshman.
Well that obviously wasn't the case.
Hard to imagine a 5th year senior in Heaps playing like a true freshman looking like a dear caught in headlights had they started him instead.
Has to be one of the worse moves in the Golden era.

so the long throw that got intercepted was because Kaaya was a freshman and NOt because the 5 o linemen could not block the 9 rushers. The entire ofensive scheme was a cluster ***. The coaches put the players in a position to fail. Stop blaming a true freshman!!!

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

What really hurts is that in 3 years we haven't seen one well coached game. Or one game that looked like we had a plan.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

The true freshman excuse holds no water, because it's his choice to start him. Everyone said the kid was mature enough to handle it. From what I could tell, he could have thrown the ball down the field had they LET him.

Did you see what happened when Kaaya threw the ball down field to an open Dobard?
It got intercepted because it was woefully underthrown.
The teams fate was sealed when Golden and Coley decided to start a true freshman.
We were told that he is not a true freshman QB rather that he was a "University of Miami" QB which implied to not expect him to play like a true freshman.
Well that obviously wasn't the case.
Hard to imagine a 5th year senior in Heaps playing like a true freshman looking like a dear caught in headlights had they started him instead.
Has to be one of the worse moves in the Golden era.

Heaps. Is. Awful.

Period. That game would have gotten ugly a lot earlier if we had put that sad sack in. Kaaya has literally unlimited ceiling right now...we have seen Heaps' ceiling and it is a worse, weaker-armed version of Stephen Morris.

Not sure how you can say that since Heaps has performed better than how Kaaya performed during his 4 year college career. Not saying Heaps is good. Just saying he would have likely played better than Kaaya did given that he's proven he can plus has experience.