Interesting comment from Jack Allison

[TheSwagger1]

Who are some of the other humble beginnings, hungry, and lacking a quarterback coach we have to look to that had success as a basis of comparison?

Jacory.

If you don't like that one, how about Bryan Fortay?

Really just a matter of curiosity.

I am no college coach, but it seems to me it would be more valuable to spend the early years watching tape and memorizing the playbook than learning the fundamentals you missed because you came in hungry with no professional development.

Can't tell if he is pointing this out as a pro, con or merely something of interest frankly, but people sure seemed to jump on it as if it something of value which I am not sure it necessarily is. I wouldn't use this factor alone as an indicator of likely success or failure because there are too many variables, but we should probably temper expectations for at least a couple of years once he is on campus. The game and its pressures are about to take a serious step up for him and whether the things he didn't have coming up end up being something he can overcome, or a major shortcoming makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Your point's valid. How about another MNW kid - Teddy Bridgewater? Maybe he was getting a lot of one-on-one growing up, but his situation doesn't strike me as one of a guy who was getting private QB tutoring from early childhood. You would hope the kid came here with fundamentals locked down and focus was on adjusting to speed/strength/playbook, like you say.

 

[WhatTheHell]

I think Richt hand picks his QB next cycle and we never hear much from Allison.

 

[SFbayCane]

I think Richt hand picks his QB next cycle and we never hear much from Allison.

That's a bold statement. You're basically picking the "Player to be named later" over a highly rated kid. If you turn out to be correct, I think Jack Allison will be a factor in all of it. (i.e.: The unknown QB in your analogy will actually have to beat out Jack Allison on the field).

 

[whoopingcane]

Olsen's parents were teachers living in a very expensive town. His problem wasn't money, it was addiction and maybe being entitled by being related to the star band member of the 7th Floor Crew.

He's related to Greg Threatt?

 

[Tad Footeball]

Who are some of the other humble beginnings, hungry, and lacking a quarterback coach we have to look to that had success as a basis of comparison?

Jacory.

If you don't like that one, how about Bryan Fortay?

Really just a matter of curiosity.

I am no college coach, but it seems to me it would be more valuable to spend the early years watching tape and memorizing the playbook than learning the fundamentals you missed because you came in hungry with no professional development.

Can't tell if he is pointing this out as a pro, con or merely something of interest frankly, but people sure seemed to jump on it as if it something of value which I am not sure it necessarily is. I wouldn't use this factor alone as an indicator of likely success or failure because there are too many variables, but we should probably temper expectations for at least a couple of years once he is on campus. The game and its pressures are about to take a serious step up for him and whether the things he didn't have coming up end up being something he can overcome, or a major shortcoming makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Your point's valid. How about another MNW kid - Teddy Bridgewater? Maybe he was getting a lot of one-on-one growing up, but his situation doesn't strike me as one of a guy who was getting private QB tutoring from early childhood. You would hope the kid came here with fundamentals locked down and focus was on adjusting to speed/strength/playbook, like you say.

Jim Kelly. East Brady, PA is a dump of a town.

 

[Gatorhater]

A white savage?

You think whites can't be savage? You might want to pick up a history book, or ask how did those slaves get here in the first place, or what the heck happened to all those Indians? Check out causalities from any Civil War battle or Sherman's handy work in GA and SC, or, going back the the Indian question, his Final Solution to The Indian Problem. Savage is not racial, maybe social but not racial.

 

[orange&green84]

Kevin Olsen still had access to great coaching that Allison didn't have. At least that's what I saw from numerous videos on him where he'd work with private coaches. Not the same situation. Allison will have a significant amount of resources at his disposal once he arrives on campus. Hopefully he's eating more when he gets here. Buddy needs to put on 20-30 lbs.

 

[plantcity3]

A white savage?

You think whites can't be savage? You might want to pick up a history book, or ask how did those slaves get here in the first place, or what the heck happened to all those Indians? Check out causalities from any Civil War battle or Sherman's handy work in GA and SC, or, going back the the Indian question, his Final Solution to The Indian Problem. Savage is not racial, maybe social but not racial.

I seen a video of a white linebacker from Penn State headbutting the rest of the linebacker group without his helmet on before their bowl game. As you can guess, he busted his forehead and still was trying to get his group crunk. I would call that a savage

 

[L A M P]

I seen a video of a white linebacker from Penn State headbutting the rest of the linebacker group without his helmet on before their bowl game. As you can guess, he busted his forehead and still was trying to get his group crunk. I would call that a savage

I believe the term you are looking for is dumbass.

 

[The Franchise]

All this savagery talk is nonsense when it comes to QBs. I hope he's tough and willing to work really hard because he needs it. But perfecting a dance routine after the WR made an incredible grab on a duck is meaningless.

I still haven't seen any big time QBs in college with such bad production and awful TD/INT numbers in HS. Not all guys who put up great numbers in HS perform great in college. But I'm challenging my man HurricaneVision to find me a couple big time college QBs who put up crap numbers in HS.

 

[DMoney]

I still haven't seen any big time QBs in college with such bad production and awful TD/INT numbers in HS. Not all guys who put up great numbers in HS perform great in college. But I'm challenging my man HurricaneVision to find me a couple big time college QBs who put up crap numbers in HS.

Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are two NFL guys who come to mind. Connor Cook and Paxton Lynch are two current guys who fit that profile.

Sam Bradford also had pedestrian numbers.

 

[theibisrules]

Jack Allison was quoted as saying "***** sunshine...it's overrated!"

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

A white savage?

You think whites can't be savage? You might want to pick up a history book, or ask how did those slaves get here in the first place, or what the heck happened to all those Indians? Check out causalities from any Civil War battle or Sherman's handy work in GA and SC, or, going back the the Indian question, his Final Solution to The Indian Problem. Savage is not racial, maybe social but not racial.

I seen a video of a white linebacker from Penn State headbutting the rest of the linebacker group without his helmet on before their bowl game. As you can guess, he busted his forehead and still was trying to get his group crunk. I would call that a savage

I'm spacing on his name but the FB for Seattle a few years ago started banging his head with his helmet while he was running onto the field, busted his head wide open. I think He was the FB at WVU when Noel Devine was there, but I'm not 100 on that.

It was funny as fvck tho

 

[gogeta4]

Ay that TD celebration w Mullins was all I needed to see. My man did a ferocious, and in sequence Dab! Made me say MY NINJA when I saw it. Savage-esq!

wasnt stiff, he had great follow through...and came in aggressive.

Allison is definately savage.

 

[gogeta4]

Who are some of the other humble beginnings, hungry, and lacking a quarterback coach we have to look to that had success as a basis of comparison?

Jacory.

If you don't like that one, how about Bryan Fortay?

Really just a matter of curiosity.

I am no college coach, but it seems to me it would be more valuable to spend the early years watching tape and memorizing the playbook than learning the fundamentals you missed because you came in hungry with no professional development.

Can't tell if he is pointing this out as a pro, con or merely something of interest frankly, but people sure seemed to jump on it as if it something of value which I am not sure it necessarily is. I wouldn't use this factor alone as an indicator of likely success or failure because there are too many variables, but we should probably temper expectations for at least a couple of years once he is on campus. The game and its pressures are about to take a serious step up for him and whether the things he didn't have coming up end up being something he can overcome, or a major shortcoming makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Your point's valid. How about another MNW kid - Teddy Bridgewater? Maybe he was getting a lot of one-on-one growing up, but his situation doesn't strike me as one of a guy who was getting private QB tutoring from early childhood. You would hope the kid came here with fundamentals locked down and focus was on adjusting to speed/strength/playbook, like you say.

he played qb all the way growing up , along with baseball (hes bahamian). I dont think Teddy had a lot of one on one instructing like others growing up. Just played qb at Bunche Park, then got some solid coaching at MNW. I dont htink he attended the Mastrole Passsing Camps or anything.

 

[gogeta4]

I still haven't seen any big time QBs in college with such bad production and awful TD/INT numbers in HS. Not all guys who put up great numbers in HS perform great in college. But I'm challenging my man HurricaneVision to find me a couple big time college QBs who put up crap numbers in HS.

Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are two NFL guys who come to mind. Connor Cook and Paxton Lynch are two current guys who fit that profile.

Sam Bradford also had pedestrian numbers.

sam bradford is native american i believe. or atleast partly.

 

[plantcity3]

A white savage?

You think whites can't be savage? You might want to pick up a history book, or ask how did those slaves get here in the first place, or what the heck happened to all those Indians? Check out causalities from any Civil War battle or Sherman's handy work in GA and SC, or, going back the the Indian question, his Final Solution to The Indian Problem. Savage is not racial, maybe social but not racial.

I seen a video of a white linebacker from Penn State headbutting the rest of the linebacker group without his helmet on before their bowl game. As you can guess, he busted his forehead and still was trying to get his group crunk. I would call that a savage

I'm spacing on his name but the FB for Seattle a few years ago started banging his head with his helmet while he was running onto the field, busted his head wide open. I think He was the FB at WVU when Noel Devine was there, but I'm not 100 on that.

It was funny as fvck tho

Owen Schmitt

 

[datdude81]

In an interview at the UA game, somebody asked Jack Allison what sets him apart. He said, "I don't come from a lot, so football is my way out."

The comment struck me because it goes against the trend. In recent years, it seems a disproportionate amount of quarterback recruits come from money. For example, our last two quarterbacks (Brad Kaaya and Stephen Morris) both came from very well-off households. There are countless other examples throughout the country.

These kids have abundant resources to develop from a young age. Not coincidentally, a market has emerged for private quarterback coaches. Allison's background may help explain why he's more of a raw, unpolished talent than his competitors.

Scout 100 Gunslinger Jack Allison Eager to Showcase His Arm Talent in Coral Gables - Football Recruiting - Scout

I am telling you this boy got SWAGGA...his whole demeanor and how he carries himself...

 

[3FW]

Can't wait to see all our QBs sling it this spring. You can tell right away with QBs.

 

[The Franchise]

I still haven't seen any big time QBs in college with such bad production and awful TD/INT numbers in HS. Not all guys who put up great numbers in HS perform great in college. But I'm challenging my man HurricaneVision to find me a couple big time college QBs who put up crap numbers in HS.

Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are two NFL guys who come to mind. Connor Cook and Paxton Lynch are two current guys who fit that profile.

Sam Bradford also had pedestrian numbers.

Thanks, D. I don't have any stats for Ryan or Flacco. But Cook had a 58 percent completion percentage with a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio as a HS senior. Not great, but not all that bad either. He was a 57 percent passer at MSU this year.

Excellent call on Bradford. He was a 19/15 TD/INT as a HS senior, which is incredibly shocking given his accuracy at OU.

Pretty sure Lynch was injured as a HS senior wasn't he? And I think they ran a Wing T offense just like Flacco's HS did up until Flacco's senior season.

Good finds though, D. I'm hoping Allison can be one of those rare birds you listed.