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Indiana cheating ?

flips said:
TBH, while this is fun conspiracy theory, the Ponds pick-6 was 100% on Moore. Even if we assume IU knew the play, dude just shouldn't have thrown that ball and gone to his next read. Had he scanned L-R he had Sadiq wide *** open deep down the right side of the field on a corner route as someone busted (pause) in IU's secondary on that play. Don't think anything that happened on the next Oregon offensive series suggests that IU knew their scripted plays either. Indiana even called a timeout because they couldn't get lined up correctly. IIRC there were folks in the game thread last night who mentioned the dropoff in Oregon's offense after they got through their opening script.

Just destroy them in Hard Rock please and thank you.
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Good pause on that bro
 
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Xio said:
This deserves a full post
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GojiraCane

Thread 'Know Your Enemy - 2025 Miami Hurricanes vs 2025 Indiana Hoosiers'

The following is a side-by-side roster comparison of current rosters for Miami and Indiana heading into the national championship.

Names in green denote incoming players in their first year in their respective programs:

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AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2025: 1.77 years (Miami), 2.16 years (Indiana)
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2025: 0.9024 (Miami), .8471 (Indiana) *
*excludes transfers Carter Davis (PK) and Adam Booker (LS), neither who are listed on 247's transfer compilation

If special teams are excluded...
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TruCane81 said:
How sophisticated are teams at using AI?

AI is all pattern seeking and it digests tons of information fast. If they developed an AI that can analyze game tape they can read coaches accurately over a big data set and break it down into patterns to teach the players way faster than naturally possible. You wont be able to hide any tendencies for years.

Combined with sign stealing or hacking comms, you can crush opponents.
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Mendoza uses a VR headset to rep what he will see. Most of those use some AI.
 
Disgustipated said:
I get it, it is bizarre. It's also bizarre to just accuse them of "cheating" though as well with 0 evidence. Based on bull**** twitter posts.
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Agreed. But usually when something this much of an outlier happens it includes at least a component of unfair practice.

For example, the Houston Astros would have been really great without the cheating. They had great players. But the cheating helped put them over the edge.

I don't doubt Cignetti is a fantastic coach. But I also would not be surprised given Michigan that there is some foul play or shady "gamesmanship" that allows a team with no elite recruits and zero NFL talent outside of the QB to, in a span of 2 seasons, become an undefeated national champion.
 
Year before Cignetti was hired, they went 3-9, his 1st year they went 12-1 with a loss in the 1st round of the playoffs. This year 15-0 with a trip to the Championship. Going 3-9 to 12-1 is odd and I never really paid attention. To go from what they were before, with the players they had, to what they are now does seem weird, but maybe I’m overthinking it.
 
Angry Ibis said:
Teams knew what we were doing for 3/4 of the season. They either had advanced AI or we were too predictable.

Just win.

Smells like fear in here. Indiana is a great team. Punch them in the mouth and see what happens. I like our chances.
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It’s been rough for you having to pretend that you’re into this winning streak. Hang in there.
 
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WesternMDCane said:
Year before Cignetti was hired, they went 3-9, his 1st year they went 12-1 with a loss in the 1st round of the playoffs. This year 15-0 with a trip to the Championship. Going 3-9 to 12-1 is odd and I never really paid attention. To go from what they were before, with the players they had, to what they are now does seem weird, but maybe I’m overthinking it.
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It seems weird bc it is unprecedented in the history of the sport. Even the greatest coaches of all time when taking over teams that were HUGE brands (Pete Carroll USC, Saban at Bama, Urban at UF) had mediocre or poor first seasons.

Cignetti not going to the NFL given this unique skillset would be evidence to me that it's bull****.
 
WesternMDCane said:
Year before Cignetti was hired, they went 3-9, his 1st year they went 12-1 with a loss in the 1st round of the playoffs. This year 15-0 with a trip to the Championship. Going 3-9 to 12-1 is odd and I never really paid attention. To go from what they were before, with the players they had, to what they are now does seem weird, but maybe I’m overthinking it.
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It is the equivalent of South Florida (with Mendoza) going undefeated. The rosters are comparable.
 
El Orange said:
It seems weird bc it is unprecedented in the history of the sport. Even the greatest coaches of all time when taking over teams that were HUGE brands (Pete Carroll USC, Saban at Bama, Urban at UF) had mediocre or poor first seasons.

Cignetti not going to the NFL given this unique skillset would be evidence to me that it's bull****.
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Right about Saban, he won the title in year 3, their rise is almost exactly the same. Cignetti is from the Saban tree so the coaching pedigree is there.
 
dycane said:
I continue to be amazed at how the general public believes Mark Cuban is some type of maverick tech genius. He’s a moron; like, truly, the dumbest billionaire alive.
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I don't think i can call a guy who started 2 companies and sold then for $6M and then $5.7B a moron or dumb. Someone can get lucky once, but a guy who starts and sells 2 companies at those costs is smart enough to do something 99% of the population isn't smart enough to do.

I WISH i was that dumb.
 
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El Orange said:
It seems weird bc it is unprecedented in the history of the sport. Even the greatest coaches of all time when taking over teams that were HUGE brands (Pete Carroll USC, Saban at Bama, Urban at UF) had mediocre or poor first seasons.

Cignetti not going to the NFL given this unique skillset would be evidence to me that it's bull****.
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You are not wrong about those coaches, but they all got at those schools before transfer portal and NIL.
Now you can tell 50 players to leave and completely retool the roster if you want and have the resources to do it. It can change overnight.
 
the guy has won everywhere he's been. he has a blueprint in the portal. nothin would surprise me but did they cheat by making Dante moore scared to death? OSU slaughtered Oregon last year. Bama is trash and was blown out by UGA. if it was an SEC team, everyone would be saying how amazing it is.
IU didn't have the toughest schedule.to me, they just seem disciplined and ready.
 
nycane said:
the guy has won everywhere he's been. he has a blueprint in the portal. nothin would surprise me but did they cheat by making Dante moore scared to death? OSU slaughtered Oregon last year. Bama is trash and was blown out by UGA. if it was an SEC team, everyone would be saying how amazing it is.
IU didn't have the toughest schedule.to me, they just seem disciplined and ready.
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I was also surprised to see how much Indiana spent this year - it was a lot more than i would have expected. They are not cheap whatsoever.
 
PSU Cane said:
I was also surprised to see how much Indiana spent this year - it was a lot more than i would have expected. They are not cheap whatsoever.
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he has a blueprint for what he looks for. my friends player played for him at IUP and said he was a great coach. Whats crazy to me is how many mediocre coaches have been hired over and over for big jobs but this guy was lingering at mid majors.
 
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