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If you ever wonder why I take PFF with a grain of salt…

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DMoney said:
Take a look at this list. Forget about Miami’s exclusion. Look at the names on the list. UF was a sieve, and Alabama couldn’t even block USF. And where is Notre Dame?

PFF is good for isolated things like pressure rate and where guys line up, but whenever they grade things like OL and pass defense they often look silly.

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7 Aubrn
8 Miami
9 ND
10 Clemson
HM Penn St
 
Memnon said:
The only time our fans take PFF with a grain of salt is when it doesn't grade Miami players high.

Whenever PFF gives our players a good grade/rating, yall eat that sh*t up.

PFF grades Francis Mauigoa at an Elite level & gave very good grades to Frederique & XLucas. You taking that with a grain of salt too?

PFF complies data, that's all it is, a database that archives snap by snap plays & gives a rating based on each positions assignments.

Cam Ward was the highest graded & rated QB in the country last year by PFF, were they wrong in that assessment?
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DMoney said:
Take a look at this list. Forget about Miami’s exclusion. Look at the names on the list. UF was a sieve, and Alabama couldn’t even block USF. And where is Notre Dame?

PFF is good for isolated things like pressure rate and where guys line up, but whenever they grade things like OL and pass defense they often look silly.

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The data are what the data are.
 
Calinative said:
Because they have like an entire line of returning starters...
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And?

Miami returns 4-5 starters, like Mirabal said this spring Bell basically played starter level snaps with all the starts he got.

Brockermeyer was All Big 12 HM started 13 games last season.

Miami returns 5 power 4 starters and has a 6th who has started a game.

Since Brockmeyer wasn't on team, it is still accurate to say Miami returns 4 starters on the OL.

Florida OL wasn't better than Miami's last season, and it won't be better this season.

1.)Notre Dame
2.) Miami
3.) Penn State
4.) Oregon

Is a much better start to that list
 
Memnon said:
The only time our fans take PFF with a grain of salt is when it doesn't grade Miami players high.

Whenever PFF gives our players a good grade/rating, yall eat that sh*t up.

PFF grades Francis Mauigoa at an Elite level & gave very good grades to Frederique & XLucas. You taking that with a grain of salt too?

PFF complies data, that's all it is, a database that archives snap by snap plays & gives a rating based on each positions assignments.

Cam Ward was the highest graded & rated QB in the country last year by PFF, were they wrong in that assessment?
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PFF gives subjective ratings. They should not be taken at a factual basis. They hire students to track and grade out games at both the NFL and the college level and that's it. Have spoken to multiple who did stuff for the NFL and they recycle staff just like that. It's amateur hour times 10.

PFF does not have access to playbooks, assignments or any of that. Most of the time they grade out a player where they don't know what he's supposed to do and grade him negatively or positively.

I'm not paying 120 dollars a year for a service performed at an amateur level with no insight on how the grades come together. Over the past few years, they've been ragebaiting the living crap out of draft twitter and now started to go hammering towards fantasy football and betting, because that's where the money is.



(worked at PFF then)



Heavens no. I'd rather look at someone with my own eyes.
 
The 'news' to me is that UF has an above average OL. Didn't know that. Seems the interior is strong and it will be interesting to see how Justin Scott et al. matches up.

Great that our OL, which less than 10 years ago was epically bad, is recognized as one of the tops in the nation. 3 SEC schools and Oregon in the top 5...shocking (sarcasm, Sheldon).

Still, as far as we're concerned, there's been a lot of 'best OL in the nation' banter that may be a bit overblown. Ranking us 🎱 I agree is probably a bit low, but no one around here is biased, right?😎
 
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Memnon said:
The only time our fans take PFF with a grain of salt is when it doesn't grade Miami players high.
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This is false. When PFF had James Williams graded as an elite pass defender in 2022, everybody on the board laughed at them.

And the issue with them giving ratings based on position assignments is that they have no clue what those assignments are. This is why their OL unit rankings are particularly bad and exclude obvious teams like Penn State and Notre Dame.

I find that isolated stats (like individual pass rush) are much more accurate.
 
Memnon said:
The only time our fans take PFF with a grain of salt is when it doesn't grade Miami players high.

Whenever PFF gives our players a good grade/rating, yall eat that sh*t up.

PFF grades Francis Mauigoa at an Elite level & gave very good grades to Frederique & XLucas. You taking that with a grain of salt too?

PFF complies data, that's all it is, a database that archives snap by snap plays & gives a rating based on each positions assignments.

Cam Ward was the highest graded & rated QB in the country last year by PFF, were they wrong in that assessment?
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The 🐐 just kicked over the kool aid stand. Tears predicted…
 
Memnon said:
The only time our fans take PFF with a grain of salt is when it doesn't grade Miami players high.

Whenever PFF gives our players a good grade/rating, yall eat that sh*t up.

PFF grades Francis Mauigoa at an Elite level & gave very good grades to Frederique & XLucas. You taking that with a grain of salt too?

PFF complies data, that's all it is, a database that archives snap by snap plays & gives a rating based on each positions assignments.

Cam Ward was the highest graded & rated QB in the country last year by PFF, were they wrong in that assessment?
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The Panthers just based their entire Draft on PFF, so I for one hope they're on the money.
 
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