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If you ever wonder why I take PFF with a grain of salt…

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DMoney said:
This is false. When PFF had James Williams graded as an elite pass defender in 2022, everybody on the board laughed at them.

And the issue with them giving ratings based on position assignments is that they have no clue what those assignments are. This is why their OL unit rankings are particularly bad and exclude obvious teams like Penn State and Notre Dame.

I find that isolated stats (like individual pass rush) are much more accurate.
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I mean sure yet if you truly don’t know with PFFs methodology you can just give a neutral 0 rating for that play. But realistically if you are watching film and see an oline going to all block players and one guy doesn’t block the guy he intended to or let a guy clearly run free with no other logical person to block that guy…. Over 1k+ snaps you’re going to have a good general idea of their play. Whether they credit them with a few extra pressures or not is almost irrelevant.

I mean I do think LB then DB then OL grades are probably the most suspect in order. But in general a guy rated a 90 is likely objectively playing better than the guy rated an 80.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Thank you king
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I think far as the o-line goes let’s be real cooper didn’t play all that great last year and neither did McCoy at the other guard spot. Overall as a group they still played well
 
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Can someone here please provide an in depth video breakdown of Miami's OL versus Florida's OL that refutes the claims in OP.

Show your work.
 
cway313 said:
Miami is listed 8th for anyone too lazy to click list.
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Right where I'd expect a team filling ~3 spots would be. This is Mirabal/Mario's chance to prove they really do develop OL and Sewell wasn't just an exception (who only played 1.5 seasons in 3y) to the rule. They've had very few OL drafted rounds 1-4 btwn Eugene and now Coral Gables.

They left an Oregon OL who did get drafted R1-4 but he was a backup their lone year with him. Sewell was a top-50 player like Mauigoa. These are 'don't f- 'em up' blue chippers.
 
Where do we think Miami stands among college teams in terms of NIL allotment to OL and overall NIL spend for OL?
 
I stopped paying attention to PFF grades when they rated guys like Jakai Clark and John Campbell incredibly high. They also had James Williams rated as one of the best pass defending safeties in the nation. I don’t know what games they watch to come to these conclusions or what their criteria is.

If you’re ranking units in the pre season, the only thing you should be going on is last year’s results and returning players. If you had great results last year but nobody returns, you shouldn’t be rated very high. If you’re returning a bunch of guys from a line that wasn’t good last year, you shouldn’t be rated very high.

Remember last pre season when FSU was returning 500 thousand career starts on the most veteran line in the nation and they were going to dominate? Doesn’t mean **** because they sucked as a unit in 2023 and were even worse in 2024.
 
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Ironmanfootball said:
Right where I'd expect a team filling ~3 spots would be. This is Mirabal/Mario's chance to prove they really do develop OL and Sewell wasn't just an exception (who only played 1.5 seasons in 3y) to the rule. They've had very few OL drafted rounds 1-4 btwn Eugene and now Coral Gables.

They left an Oregon OL who did get drafted R1-4 but he was a backup their lone year with him. Sewell was a top-50 player like Mauigoa. These are 'don't f- 'em up' blue chippers.
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You know mario coached o-line at bama too right? Ryan Kelly was a 1st round pick under Mario and Cam Robinson went 2nd round. So I don’t think Mario has anything to prove as far as o-line goes
 
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