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ddann said:
Why did he bust so badly in the league?
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I believe he had a drug addiction problem after his injury and that was part of his downfall. But yes Charles Rogers is one of the best college WRs and draft prospects ever. Was supposed to be the second coming of Randy Moss. He had very similar athletic traits and size.
 
cf3000 said:
I remember when Lewis first started playing. Anyone could tell he was the real thing.
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I remember a guy saying he went to watch Jammi German and James Burgess to see what all the hype was about with our new incoming freshman. He said he left practice that day and discovered Ray Lewis was not only the best freshman but the best player on the team. We got a steal.
 
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TemplarCane said:
A few problems in this thread:

1. Since the NFL allowed underclassmen to declare for the draft few players have multiple great seasons. Who was the last 3X All-American, let alone 4X? This makes it difficult to compare careers in different eras. Today a kid plays as a true FR, starts some as a SO, balls out as a JR, and bolts for the league. Maybe you get a dominant SO season.

Barry Sanders had one great season, the greatest single season ever for a RB, but no one is going to argue he's not one of the GOATs. Think he'd have multiple great seasons had AA Thurman Thomas been allowed to declare early? Or if Sanders had to return for his SR season? Prior to Barry, Marcus Allen had the all-time season his SR year, with a stellar JR season. He also played behind Heisman Trophy winner Charles White as FR and SO.

The obvious point is even the greats often have to wait their turn, especially at some positions, and especially on the better teams.

2. The CFB game has changed such that average QBs and WRs production exceeds top CFB players in the early 80s, or 70s, or earlier. A QB throwing for 3,500 yards and 30 TDs in today's pass-oriented offenses is considered 'productive' today but would have been AA/Heisman material in the 70s, early 80s.
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True but more players play as freshmen and sophomores now than they did before so while there's not a ton of 4 year careers, they're not spending their first two seasons sitting on the bench anymore.
 
DTP said:
True but more players play as freshmen and sophomores now than they did before so while there's not a ton of 4 year careers, they're not spending their first two seasons sitting on the bench anymore.
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Yes, more play earlier but still have to develop. Few players are starters and dominate straight out of high school.
 
Canesfan_134 said:
I believe he had a drug addiction problem after his injury and that was part of his downfall. But yes Charles Rogers is one of the best college WRs and draft prospects ever. Was supposed to be the second coming of Randy Moss. He had very similar athletic traits and size.
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Mandarich came off AAS and developed a painkiller addiction. Was overrated and performed poorly in the league. Sad story, but rebounded enough to start at OG for the Colts for a few seasons early in the Manning era. Was out of the league before the Colts were a regular playoff participant and won a Super Bowl.

Rodgers was a sadder story. Never developed as a WR. Often injured, he played in only 15 games. Multiple violations of the NFL‘s substance abuse policy. Multiple arrests, for domestic violence, drugs, and DUIs. Eight children by four women, two children while in high school. Developed an addiction to opioids, which are liver toxic. Died at 38 of liver cancer.
 
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