If we beat Pitt and cover spread. They want Mia.mi vs Oregon.

[Salt]

I need some of whatever you’re smoking. There is not a chance in **** we jump Bama unless they lose. I posted before that with SEC teams they care about who you beat, and Bama has I think four wins over top 25 teams. I’ll also mention again that Bama caught their 3rd loss late last year against a mediocre Oklahoma team and looked horrific doing it. They still almost got in.

So the results of our one common opponent doesn’t mean anything? If we have a convincing away win against a ranked team and they struggle win or lose against an away unranked team this weekend you still think they get in?

 

[Jonnyblaze]

So the results of our one common opponent doesn’t mean anything? If we have a convincing away win against a ranked team and they struggle win or lose against an away unranked team this weekend you still think they get in?

Not about what you or I think, it’s what the committee will think. In that regard, I can guarantee you we would never hop Alabama unless they lose.

 

[407cane]

I think they would prefer Miami — ND, if possible.

But they have options.

Miami vs. ND
Miami vs. Oregon
Miami vs. Georgia.

These matchups sell themselves for different reasons.

they do NOT want that game to happen

imagine if we draw ND and we win?

it makes them look dumber (if that's possible) that they were so adamant that ND was better than us

0% chance we draw ND in first round

 

[Salt]

Not about what you or I think, it’s what the committee will think. In that regard, I can guarantee you we would never hop Alabama unless they lose.

Ok, we’ll see. I know we are currently the ACC placeholder but the committee has us matched up against Oregon in the CFP.

Tell me of a better storyline to drive up TV ratings?

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

You don’t understand the Great 8 principle!

I’m betting you are pretty young- nothing wrong with it **** I wish I was

Bama is a blue blood w 7 others
They will ALWAYS get benefit and be ranked higher…Miami could beat Pitt 48-0 and bama wins by 3 in iron Bowl and they won’t flip EVER

They ****ed Bama last year and they did t have to do it. They did that to preserve the sanctity of the championship games. They may have to do it again this season. If they drop Bama and then bama turns around and wins the sec they are good cause they don’t have to explain keeping UgA above us. Bama is above us and loses the tile game then people will exp3ct them to drop and then it’s. **** shop

 

[YLCANE]

I disagree. I think an ugly win might be enough to justify moving us ahead with a convincing win over Pitt. We have the tougher game this week. We both played FSU at their place. And I do think we provide more intriguing matchups if the committee are concerned about maximizing viewership and ratings. They did not have to move us as far up as they did unless they are thinking that’s a possibility. I grant you if Alabama wins convincingly they will not UM ahead of them.

I think you guys that think Miami is just gonna jump teams like Alabama or Notre Dame are probably young kids that don’t understand the history of college football and you don’t understand the principle of the great 8

The decisions aren’t made on ratings
They are simply made on great 8 - how many can they get in

Just wait and see what happens if Michigan wins
Just wait and hear what they say if Texas beats A&M

ND, Georgia Bama OSU Mich Texas OU USC

ALL will get a benefit over every other team in college football

That is life and it’s been this way forever

 

[flips]

Ok, we’ll see. I know we are currently the ACC placeholder but the committee has us matched up against Oregon in the CFP.

Tell me of a better storyline to drive up TV ratings?

Tie Yurachek up to one of them spinning targets and have Coach throw axes at him

Happy Thanksgiving

 

[YLCANE]

They ****ed Bama last year and they did t have to do it. They did that to preserve the sanctity of the championship games. They may have to do it again this season. If they drop Bama and then bama turns around and wins the sec they are good cause they don’t have to explain keeping UgA above us. Bama is above us and loses the tile game then people will exp3ct them to drop and then it’s. **** shop

Bama lost
A third game!!!!!

Apples and oranges my friend you just simply don’t get it. How old are you? If you don’t mind me asking I’m an old dude at 56 years old
And I’ve been around and seen it all

 

[YLCANE]

So the results of our one common opponent doesn’t mean anything? If we have a convincing away win against a ranked team and they struggle win or lose against an away unranked team this weekend you still think they get in?

NO they don’t matter
They have “good” wins w the perceived strength of SEC
They have the best win beating Georgia
And a loss to another playoff team by 2 - OU

Miami beat ND
And lost twice as double digit fav

Lastly and most
Improtantly
ALABAMA is part of Great 8 they are a true blue blood
MIAMI is a outsider to college football that FORCED themselves into college football history

Many traditional sportwriters
And analysts actually HATE that fact

This is literally a college football history lesson and you are going to learn it the hard way!

 

[407cane]

I think it’s people’s best interest to hope we win, Duke loses, and UVA loses

Unless a team without a HC pulls a top 10 upset, that’s our only hope

 

[YLCANE]

I think it’s people’s best interest to hope we win, Duke loses, and UVA loses

Unless a team without a HC pulls a top 10 upset, that’s our only hope

We are big WF and VT fans on acc side
And or
we 100% need Ohio State
To beat Michigan
Plus an upset by…Auburn, LSU, Miss St, UDub

And most importantly
Miami needs
To show up with bad intentions and take care
Of their business!!!!!

 

[Salt]

NO they don’t matter
They have “good” wins w the perceived strength of SEC
They have the best win beating Georgia
And a loss to another playoff team by 2 - OU

Miami beat ND
And lost twice as double digit fav

Lastly and most
Improtantly
ALABAMA is part of Great 8 they are a true blue blood
MIAMI is a outsider to college football that FORCED themselves into college football history

Many traditional sportwriters
And analysts actually HATE that fact

This is literally a college football history lesson and you are going to learn it the hard way!

Principle of great 8? Tell me professor where this term comes from and that the teams you arbitrarily seemed to include are part of it?

 

[407cane]

Principle of great 8? Tell me professor where this term comes from and that the teams you arbitrarily seemed to include are part of it?

I'm not sure there's a "great 8"

but his point remains

there's a clear group of select teams that will get in or the benefit of the doubt and there's the rest of teams that won't... we're in the latter group

if bama being above us last year and ND being above us this year didnt teach you that then idk what to tell you

 

[YLCANE]

Principle of great 8? Tell me professor where this term comes from and that the teams you arbitrarily seemed to include are part of it?

The Great 8 are in the pantheon of college football history
Knute Rockne bs at Nd
Bud Wilkinson bs at OU
John Mckay at SC
Schembechler at Mich
Etc….etc
The 8’schools listed w their pedigree historically get over ranked at beginning of every year and they inevitably are the highest ranked teams…..with 0,1,2,3 losses

There are exceptions like LSU and Miami and FSU and Clemson but a great example is how things shape up right now

No loss OSU is 1, there are two other undefeated teams prob both w better resumes

1 loss Georgia - highest 1 loss team

2 loss OU ND Bama all ahead of every other two loss teams and even some 1 loss team

3 loss Texas and USC highest ranked 3 loss teams and even ahead of some 2 loss teams

Do you see the pattern????

EVERY single one of them are at the top of rankings by number of losses!!!!! Michigan is only one out of “order” but you watch and see what happens if they beat Ohio State

THIS is your lesson
Watch again next season from preseason bs rankings To when they lose their first
Game etc…..those teams will almost always be the highest ranked in their group

I didn’t make it up, I don’t like it, but it’s real!!!!

 

[Salt]

I'm not sure there's a "great 8"

but his point remains

there's a clear group of select teams that will get in or the benefit of the doubt and there's the rest of teams that won't... we're in the latter group

if bama being above us last year and ND being above us this year didnt teach you that then idk what to tell you

I don't discount the bias but there are also other variables like TV ratings and money. There is also media clamor out there bringing attention to the selection process and the committee's ultimate credibility.

At least you question this so-called "great 8 principle" being made to be akin to the law of gravity.

 

[Salt]

The Great 8 are in the pantheon of college football history
Knute Rockne bs at Nd
Bud Wilkinson bs at OU
John Mckay at SC
Schembechler at Mich
Etc….etc
The 8’schools listed w their pedigree historically get over ranked at beginning of every year and they inevitably are the highest ranked teams…..with 0,1,2,3 losses

There are exceptions like LSU and Miami and FSU and Clemson but a great example is how things shape up right now

No loss OSU is 1, there are two other undefeated teams prob both w better resumes

1 loss Georgia - highest 1 loss team

2 loss OU ND Bama all ahead of every other two loss teams and even some 1 loss team

3 loss Texas and USC highest ranked 3 loss teams and even ahead of some 2 loss teams

Do you see the pattern????

EVERY single one of them are at the top of rankings by number of losses!!!!! Michigan is only one out of “order” but you watch and see what happens if they beat Ohio State

THIS is your lesson
Watch again next season from preseason bs rankings To when they lose their first
Game etc…..those teams will almost always be the highest ranked in their group

I didn’t make it up, I don’t like it, but it’s real!!!!

I think this great 8 principle you mention is largely made up by you. Like I already granted there is some bias operating. However the teams you put on the list can be variable year to year (hello, Indiana???)and not so entrenched as you suggest.

Money and ratings are also a factor, imo.

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

Bama lost
A third game!!!!!

Apples and oranges my friend you just simply don’t get it. How old are you? If you don’t mind me asking I’m an old dude at 56 years old
And I’ve been around and seen it all

41. I am aware of the shenanigans. I know all about the history of the game. The bottomline is people who have to be right all the time (old ***** on the committe) will do whatever they need to do to preserve themselves. It would be their preferences to not contradict themselves and avoid the controversy.

How can they achieve that? Bump Bama down this week if they are expecting them to win the SEC and earn their spot back. This allows them to avoid the conference title convo if they lose the SEC. They set a precedent last year with SMU but as you said SMU was locked in as the top ACC team before the title game and yes Bama had three losses. They likely will end up with 3 this year too though. If they dont then ranking wont matter because they will have won the SEC. That is why the committee could move them behind us. Because they won't want to do it the following week if they lose in the title game. The SEC title game should be a play in for Bama. The only way for that to happen is if Bama moves behind us before the game. By their precedents if Bama is in front of us before championship weekend and we are not in the acc title we should be cooked. I'll admit like most of our playoff hope scenarios it will take a series of outcomes to force the committee to consider this approach. Its not so much what I think will happen. I believe it is the only way we get what we deserve without the committee looking dumber/more corrupt than they already look.

We have to do our part and force their hand. Hammer Pitt, leave no doubt. Bama needs to struggle with a suspect Auburn. UGA needs to struggle with GT. There needs to be undeniable and ample evidence to justify Bama being bumped backward. If the whole country outside of Tuscaloosa starts to make that noise the committee will start looking at their best way to get the results they want without getting too much egg on their face. The narrative around the country could become that Miami should be in without a doubt and that ND and a potentially 3 loss Bama should be the ones debated. Then the committe will be forced to decide between ND and Bama and I believe Bama as the 5th SEC team right now is the one they would sacrifice. The goal for the committee is to do that without contradicting themselves.

 

[YLCANE]

I don't discount the bias but there are also other variables like TV ratings and money. There is also media clamor out there bringing attention to the selection process and the committee's ultimate credibility.

At least you question this so-called "great 8 principle" being made to be akin to the law of gravity.

Lmao
Do you not think bama and and draw ratings????

If you think Miami ratings mattered more why wasn’t Miami w the number one offense in the country w most exciting player and first pick in draft in LAST year?

You can try to dismiss the Great 8 principle all you want, but you will be perpetually disappointed and frustrated like I bet we all will be in a week

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

If we beat Pitt and cover spread...

The committee will say this version of Pitt isn't as good as the one Notre Dame beat 2 weeks ago.

 

[YLCANE]

I think this great 8 principle you mention is largely made up by you. Like I already granted there is some bias operating. However the teams you put on the list can be variable year to year (hello, Indiana???)and not so entrenched as you suggest.

Money and ratings are also a factor, imo.

I just provided the insight, the current rankings reflect it all the way down to Texas and you dismiss it!!! Lmao

How about you go look at history of college football then get back to me

I really could give a hoot if you want to believe it, but don’t cry about where we end up ranked when compared to those institutions because it’s going to be that way whether you believe it or not