If _____ is named Miami's coach, I'm done.

[TheU1988]

Let's play a new game regarding Golden's hypothetical replacements.

Just based off of names that have been tossed around here by sauces, opinions, guesstimates, stupidity, etc., I'll say:

- Gene Chizik
- Mario Cristobal
- Hue Jackson
- Al Golden

Why Hue? he is going to hot NFL candidate as well

It's not JUST Hue. I only singled him out because he was the only non-established head coach that was mentioned. He may be great somewhere, but I don't want him "learning" to be a head coach at Miami like Shannon and Coker did.

 

[TheU1988]

More fans spouting nonsense numbers. No UM numbers are released as it is a private school. Just stop already.

As for the thread:

Mario, Leach, Chad Morris, Pruitt, Smart, Coley, Chud, Schiano, Strong

My God how did I forget that name? *edits original post*

 

[Canesfreak89]

Any "up and coming", "promising", or whatever coordinator from wherever. Let's just get a PROVEN head coach already.

Proven head coaches are rarely on the market.

Michigan and Alabama didn't have no trouble

Michigan football revenue - 91 Million / year
Alabama football revenue - 94 Million / year

That's JUST football.

UM? 33 Million.

Now let that sink in... Michigan....and Alabama make 3 times the money UM does....about 60 million dollars more.

To give you an idea of just how insane that money is....

The yearly salary cap for the NFL is 143 Million / year. Michigan and Alabama make enough money to field 2/3 on a present day NFL roster..

Those schools also field more athletic teams that football funds then us. We probably have half as many sports teams as them.

 

[RL52U]

Any "up and coming", "promising", or whatever coordinator from wherever. Let's just get a PROVEN head coach already.

Proven head coaches are rarely on the market.

Michigan and Alabama didn't have no trouble

Michigan football revenue - 91 Million / year
Alabama football revenue - 94 Million / year

That's JUST football.

UM? 33 Million.

Now let that sink in... Michigan....and Alabama make 3 times the money UM does....about 60 million dollars more.

To give you an idea of just how insane that money is....

The yearly salary cap for the NFL is 143 Million / year. Michigan and Alabama make enough money to field 2/3 on a present day NFL roster..

Part of me questions the accuracy of those numbers, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if they were true.

If you want to look at the finances of any institution for athletics you can get it here

Basically all institutions (even private ones like UM) have to report their athletic budgets/expenditures to the Federal Government.

Basically you go in. Type the name of the institution and they have tons of financials...on how much revenue they make. How much they spend on football. What their profit margin is etc.

Here are some interesting facts... Alabama absolutely makes 91 million on football every year...yet they spend only 26 million. Meaning they have 65 million to invest in other sports/ do whatever they want with it. Somehow they spent it on other stuff...I have no idea I'm sure a lot of that is slushed away, but still they posted a total athletic profit of 13 million dollars. That's pure cash the University can do whatever they want with.

Now to contrast that with UM...we made 33 Million in revenue from football...And spent 27 million...

Yes... Miami spent MORE money than Alabama on football believe it or not but 33 Million - 27 million yields only 6 million for other sports as compared to Alabama's gigantic 65 million.

Now the cost of operating in Miami is about 127.5% higher so factoring how much Alabama is spending in Miami dollars would be about 58.5 Million...but revenue wise would also be increased by that kind of a factor... making the revenue an unbelievable 200 Million dollars...every...year.


So to sum it up. Alabama makes an insane amount of money. If UM was on Alabama's level in terms of revenue it would be making 200 Million a year in football and spending about 60 on it.

Right now we are basically spending half that...and making 16% of what Alabama makes proportionally. If the Board and Admin actually really looked at the numbers across the country and saw what COULD be achieved if they were smart...it would blow their mind.... The part of them not caring about football is what is absolutely maddening....because with how bad the fins are how the heat aren't the same with Lebron not around there is a gigantic opportunity to capture the Miami sports market and cash in on a gigantic level....but it is what it is...

We have folden and nobody goes to see the games, and we suck.... congrats BoT and Admin...

 

[OBLIVION]

I am not even concerned about Mario being hired. Program is on the ropes and that dude would just be a FINISH HIM hire.

Anyone involved in a scandal isn't happening either. So why dudes post them clowns as reason they would be done are beyond me.

The BOT has ****ed this program up. Between all the NCAA drama, lack of money being put into the facility's, and coaching hires. This place is an utter **** storm.

Im betting that it will be one of these dudes in this thread. A Schiano, Chud or Trestman hire. Someone that desperately needs to try and spark their career in a hurry and knows it can be accomplished here.

Many poster think this place is a coaching paradise. I seriously doubt coaches feel the same way. There is no support system from the the top and it is quite obvious.

I am not for any of them dudes, but i am not thinking some great up and comer or some already polished dude is walking into this **** storm.

1st thing for me is Golden fired. Then who his replacement is and go from there on whether or not i watch anymore of this **** show and give watching college ball for good.

 

[RBhurricane87]

Proven head coaches are rarely on the market.

Michigan and Alabama didn't have no trouble

Michigan football revenue - 91 Million / year
Alabama football revenue - 94 Million / year

That's JUST football.

UM? 33 Million.

Now let that sink in... Michigan....and Alabama make 3 times the money UM does....about 60 million dollars more.

To give you an idea of just how insane that money is....

The yearly salary cap for the NFL is 143 Million / year. Michigan and Alabama make enough money to field 2/3 on a present day NFL roster..

Part of me questions the accuracy of those numbers, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if they were true.

If you want to look at the finances of any institution for athletics you can get it here

Basically all institutions (even private ones like UM) have to report their athletic budgets/expenditures to the Federal Government.

Basically you go in. Type the name of the institution and they have tons of financials...on how much revenue they make. How much they spend on football. What their profit margin is etc.

Here are some interesting facts... Alabama absolutely makes 91 million on football every year...yet they spend only 26 million. Meaning they have 65 million to invest in other sports/ do whatever they want with it. Somehow they spent it on other stuff...I have no idea I'm sure a lot of that is slushed away, but still they posted a total athletic profit of 13 million dollars. That's pure cash the University can do whatever they want with.

Now to contrast that with UM...we made 33 Million in revenue from football...And spent 27 million...

Yes... Miami spent MORE money than Alabama on football believe it or not but 33 Million - 27 million yields only 6 million for other sports as compared to Alabama's gigantic 65 million.

Now the cost of operating in Miami is about 127.5% higher so factoring how much Alabama is spending in Miami dollars would be about 58.5 Million...but revenue wise would also be increased by that kind of a factor... making the revenue an unbelievable 200 Million dollars...every...year.


So to sum it up. Alabama makes an insane amount of money. If UM was on Alabama's level in terms of revenue it would be making 200 Million a year in football and spending about 60 on it.

Right now we are basically spending half that...and making 16% of what Alabama makes proportionally. If the Board and Admin actually really looked at the numbers across the country and saw what COULD be achieved if they were smart...it would blow their mind.... The part of them not caring about football is what is absolutely maddening....because with how bad the fins are how the heat aren't the same with Lebron not around there is a gigantic opportunity to capture the Miami sports market and cash in on a gigantic level....but it is what it is...

We have folden and nobody goes to see the games, and we suck.... congrats BoT and Admin...

Wow...that is absolutely sickening

What a cluster f*ck

 

[CaniacMike21]

The trio of dudes with UM ties our fans love for no reason

Dud
Cuban Al Golden
Schiano

Exactly this.

 

[canestim]

Proven head coaches are rarely on the market.

Michigan and Alabama didn't have no trouble

Michigan football revenue - 91 Million / year
Alabama football revenue - 94 Million / year

That's JUST football.

UM? 33 Million.

Now let that sink in... Michigan....and Alabama make 3 times the money UM does....about 60 million dollars more.

To give you an idea of just how insane that money is....

The yearly salary cap for the NFL is 143 Million / year. Michigan and Alabama make enough money to field 2/3 on a present day NFL roster..

Part of me questions the accuracy of those numbers, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if they were true.

If you want to look at the finances of any institution for athletics you can get it here

Basically all institutions (even private ones like UM) have to report their athletic budgets/expenditures to the Federal Government.

Basically you go in. Type the name of the institution and they have tons of financials...on how much revenue they make. How much they spend on football. What their profit margin is etc.

Here are some interesting facts... Alabama absolutely makes 91 million on football every year...yet they spend only 26 million. Meaning they have 65 million to invest in other sports/ do whatever they want with it. Somehow they spent it on other stuff...I have no idea I'm sure a lot of that is slushed away, but still they posted a total athletic profit of 13 million dollars. That's pure cash the University can do whatever they want with.

Now to contrast that with UM...we made 33 Million in revenue from football...And spent 27 million...

Yes... Miami spent MORE money than Alabama on football believe it or not but 33 Million - 27 million yields only 6 million for other sports as compared to Alabama's gigantic 65 million.

Now the cost of operating in Miami is about 127.5% higher so factoring how much Alabama is spending in Miami dollars would be about 58.5 Million...but revenue wise would also be increased by that kind of a factor... making the revenue an unbelievable 200 Million dollars...every...year.


So to sum it up. Alabama makes an insane amount of money. If UM was on Alabama's level in terms of revenue it would be making 200 Million a year in football and spending about 60 on it.

Right now we are basically spending half that...and making 16% of what Alabama makes proportionally. If the Board and Admin actually really looked at the numbers across the country and saw what COULD be achieved if they were smart...it would blow their mind.... The part of them not caring about football is what is absolutely maddening....because with how bad the fins are how the heat aren't the same with Lebron not around there is a gigantic opportunity to capture the Miami sports market and cash in on a gigantic level....but it is what it is...

We have folden and nobody goes to see the games, and we suck.... congrats BoT and Admin...

Good write up RL52U BUT one thing I would like to add is that you didn't really mention anything about the Not Allocated by Gender/Sport section of the Revenues and Expenses. Not Allocated by Gender/Sport revenues are things like TV rights not allocated to specific sport, licensing/merchandising, donations, etc. In UM's case this amounts to $22,445,219 for the reporting year. It's not reported but any idiot knows that the overwhelming majority of those not allocated revenues are generated by the football program. What I'd like to know is what the Not Allocated by Gender/Sport expenses consist of for that period. Not knowing makes it hard to dissect and criticize spending. Regardless the football program is responsible for a huge amount (I would wager almost all) of those not allocated revenues.

 

[Blitzed53]

Somebody who brings in one **** of a defensive coordinator

 

[DC Dog Nuts]

You guys better get ready to kill yourselves. Miami isn't coming away with anybody worth a **** with the current openings and if the potential good ones come to fruition. Miami is not a destination for any of these good coaches. Miami offers up nothing to them that they can't get elsewhere. It's been proven many times over that you can win at other schools not named Miami. Besides all the lack of support from the admin at Miami and facilities, what coach wants to play in the Coastal Division. Too many negatives at the school in this day and age of college football. Why come to Miami and deal with a mound of crap when you can go coach at a school that wants and desires strong football at their respective locations.

Miami blew it when they had the football world by the balls and a bunch of momentum.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

I am not even concerned about Mario being hired. Program is on the ropes and that dude would just be a FINISH HIM hire.

Anyone involved in a scandal isn't happening either. So why dudes post them clowns as reason they would be done are beyond me.

The BOT has ****ed this program up. Between all the NCAA drama, lack of money being put into the facility's, and coaching hires. This place is an utter **** storm.

Im betting that it will be one of these dudes in this thread. A Schiano, Chud or Trestman hire. Someone that desperately needs to try and spark their career in a hurry and knows it can be accomplished here.

Many poster think this place is a coaching paradise. I seriously doubt coaches feel the same way. There is no support system from the the top and it is quite obvious.

I am not for any of them dudes, but i am not thinking some great up and comer or some already polished dude is walking into this **** storm.

1st thing for me is Golden fired. Then who his replacement is and go from there on whether or not i watch anymore of this **** show and give watching college ball for good.

If the BOT want to be cheap but still want to compete for championships, then they are gonna have to look past some black marks such as Butch's involvement at UNC or whatever past issues certain BOT members have had with him.

If they are willing to invest in a great and proven coach, they can get a guy with no record of scandals. But they can't have their cake and eat it too; they need to make some tough choices about the direction of the program.

Of course, they could always go after some bargain basement MAC "up and comer," but that would just further the narrative that this university, with its rented stadium 40 miles from campus and its sub-par facilities, doesn't give a **** about the success of football or building its brand.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

You guys better get ready to kill yourselves. Miami isn't coming away with anybody worth a **** with the current openings and if the potential good ones come to fruition. Miami is not a destination for any of these good coaches. Miami offers up nothing to them that they can't get elsewhere. It's been proven many times over that you can win at other schools not named Miami. Besides all the lack of support from the admin at Miami and facilities, what coach wants to play in the Coastal Division. Too many negatives at the school in this day and age of college football. Why come to Miami and deal with a mound of crap when you can go coach at a school that wants and desires strong football at their respective locations.

Miami blew it when they had the football world by the balls and a bunch of momentum.

They have to be willing to spend some money. Or hire Butch and give him full support. It's really that simple.

 

[clg003]

Proven head coaches are rarely on the market.

Michigan and Alabama didn't have no trouble

Michigan football revenue - 91 Million / year
Alabama football revenue - 94 Million / year

That's JUST football.

UM? 33 Million.

Now let that sink in... Michigan....and Alabama make 3 times the money UM does....about 60 million dollars more.

To give you an idea of just how insane that money is....

The yearly salary cap for the NFL is 143 Million / year. Michigan and Alabama make enough money to field 2/3 on a present day NFL roster..

Part of me questions the accuracy of those numbers, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if they were true.

If you want to look at the finances of any institution for athletics you can get it here

Basically all institutions (even private ones like UM) have to report their athletic budgets/expenditures to the Federal Government.

Basically you go in. Type the name of the institution and they have tons of financials...on how much revenue they make. How much they spend on football. What their profit margin is etc.

Here are some interesting facts... Alabama absolutely makes 91 million on football every year...yet they spend only 26 million. Meaning they have 65 million to invest in other sports/ do whatever they want with it. Somehow they spent it on other stuff...I have no idea I'm sure a lot of that is slushed away, but still they posted a total athletic profit of 13 million dollars. That's pure cash the University can do whatever they want with.

Now to contrast that with UM...we made 33 Million in revenue from football...And spent 27 million...

Yes... Miami spent MORE money than Alabama on football believe it or not but 33 Million - 27 million yields only 6 million for other sports as compared to Alabama's gigantic 65 million.

Now the cost of operating in Miami is about 127.5% higher so factoring how much Alabama is spending in Miami dollars would be about 58.5 Million...but revenue wise would also be increased by that kind of a factor... making the revenue an unbelievable 200 Million dollars...every...year.


So to sum it up. Alabama makes an insane amount of money. If UM was on Alabama's level in terms of revenue it would be making 200 Million a year in football and spending about 60 on it.

Right now we are basically spending half that...and making 16% of what Alabama makes proportionally. If the Board and Admin actually really looked at the numbers across the country and saw what COULD be achieved if they were smart...it would blow their mind.... The part of them not caring about football is what is absolutely maddening....because with how bad the fins are how the heat aren't the same with Lebron not around there is a gigantic opportunity to capture the Miami sports market and cash in on a gigantic level....but it is what it is...

We have folden and nobody goes to see the games, and we suck.... congrats BoT and Admin...

Can you also show how much each of these schools have brought in from donations over the last 10 years? That's where you will see why they are not concerned with Football. I agree its maddening because you could run Miami football like a business and make 50 mill and we would keep that legacy moving forward, but in reality that's just a drop in the bucket to the overall University.

Shalala put this school on a path to dominate the region academically and to be known as one of the top medical research schools in the country. Her legacy was always geared toward education. The NCAA mess was a massive failure and only added risks to her endeavors.

How does the Miami medical image coincide with the Miami bad boy image? Rich parents don't want to send their kids to schools that have thug images. This administration as well as hers were smart enough to know that they could make more dough off of Miami football, but the question has always been what risks do you take on to make 50 mill max? Can you imagine the Miami bad boy image working at Harvard?

She wanted to compete with the Dukes in the world and could care less about competing with the FSUs. The current administration are her clones.

 

[Soul Cane]

You guys better get ready to kill yourselves. Miami isn't coming away with anybody worth a **** with the current openings and if the potential good ones come to fruition. Miami is not a destination for any of these good coaches. Miami offers up nothing to them that they can't get elsewhere. It's been proven many times over that you can win at other schools not named Miami. Besides all the lack of support from the admin at Miami and facilities, what coach wants to play in the Coastal Division. Too many negatives at the school in this day and age of college football. Why come to Miami and deal with a mound of crap when you can go coach at a school that wants and desires strong football at their respective locations.

Miami blew it when they had the football world by the balls and a bunch of momentum.

No power 5 school has more local talent in its backyard than Miami.

If Miami has a good coach who knew what he was doing, Miami will have no problems kicking serious *** throughout the college football world. With the HS talent in S. Florida, you can reload into a national contender much easier than anywhere else in the nation.

And I don't want to hear about the lack of facilties bullshyte. Some of you are underestimating how bloody incompetent our previous three staffs have been. Even if you had built an indoor practice field and an on-campus stadium 10 years ago, we'd still have sucked on the field because of how atrocious our coaching has been.

 

[RL52U]

Can you also show how much each of these schools have brought in from donations over the last 10 years? That's where you will see why they are not concerned with Football. I agree its maddening because you could run Miami football like a business and make 50 mill and we would keep that legacy moving forward, but in reality that's just a drop in the bucket to the overall University.

Shalala put this school on a path to dominate the region academically and to be known as one of the top medical research schools in the country. Her legacy was always geared toward education. The NCAA mess was a massive failure and only added risks to her endeavors.

How does the Miami medical image coincide with the Miami bad boy image? Rich parents don't want to send their kids to schools that have thug images. This administration as well as hers were smart enough to know that they could make more dough off of Miami football, but the question has always been what risks do you take on to make 50 mill max? Can you imagine the Miami bad boy image working at Harvard?

She wanted to compete with the Dukes in the world and could care less about competing with the FSUs. The current administration are her clones.

Donations wise it's probably a push. All schools raise money, and yes Miami has great academics...it's always had great academics, but it also was incredibly good at both.

Look at what Stanford did last night to UCLA...you can be savage on the football field and be an incredible at academics...Even Duke who is notorious for basketball excellence is actually doing better than us.... DUKE IS BETTER AT FOOTBALL than UM... DUKE.

So that excuse of oh well you have to be an academic school or be bad at football is a total myth. Nobody looks at Stanford and says...Wow what a bunch of thugs...

 

[canadianhurricane]

Cristobal. If we hire cristobal, I'm done. All my UM gear goes in a box in the garage and I save myself a trip to SFLA every year. I'm not switching teams. I just would choose to watch CFB as a unbiased fan. I'm not waiting five more years just to have to donate to the 'fire cristobal' banners.

 

[HighSeas]

Schiano would set back the program another decade+. The fanbase has no idea about how awful his schemes are and his fascist control freak dictatorial style will leave them begging for the return of ice cream trucks and homoerotic team bonding. You don't replace a stubborn nice guy idiot salesman with a more stubborn a-hole idiot who treats outsiders like crap thinking he's Belichick 2.0.

 

[RBhurricane87]

I believe that most collegiate female sports programs operate in the red on a yearly basis

 

[clg003]

You guys better get ready to kill yourselves. Miami isn't coming away with anybody worth a **** with the current openings and if the potential good ones come to fruition. Miami is not a destination for any of these good coaches. Miami offers up nothing to them that they can't get elsewhere. It's been proven many times over that you can win at other schools not named Miami. Besides all the lack of support from the admin at Miami and facilities, what coach wants to play in the Coastal Division. Too many negatives at the school in this day and age of college football. Why come to Miami and deal with a mound of crap when you can go coach at a school that wants and desires strong football at their respective locations.

Miami blew it when they had the football world by the balls and a bunch of momentum.

No power 5 school has more local talent in its backyard than Miami.

If Miami has a good coach who knew what he was doing, Miami will have no problems kicking serious *** throughout the college football world. With the HS talent in S. Florida, you can reload into a national contender much easier than anywhere else in the nation.

And I don't want to hear about the lack of facilties bullshyte. Some of you are underestimating how bloody incompetent our previous three staffs have been. Even if you had built an indoor practice field and an on-campus stadium 10 years ago, we'd still have sucked on the field because of how atrocious our coaching has been.

I agree but each of those players is going to have to make a decision about going with a hard core sales man like Saban and playing in front of 100K screaming fans or going to Miami for a second rate coach. While Miami is loaded the kids that we don't get don't stay home or go to some small time schools. To sell this program at a top level you need a coach kids believes in a stadium that doesn't make 40K look like a ghost town. Both of those things costs money and some academic exceptions wouldn't hurt either. The admins are not on board with any of those options. So your stuck with trying to get a second rate coach with a squeaky clean rep who can win with second tier kids.

Al works his *** off recruiting but most families in Miami don't believe his yankee ***.

 

[CandyCane]

Mario Cristobal
Mike Stoops