I find it funny how people attempt to discredit coaches...

Once again people with a little lack of football knowledge attempt to argue. You try to argue that our "scheme" blows. How do you expect a defensive coordinator to run a proper scheme without the proper players? Once again answer this question...Can a defense be successful with a QB turned safety in Highsmith starting in the secondary?

Another note on people saying Golden missed out on local talent and needs to make staff changes. How can you expect talent to come to a school with a pending investigation that took years to get over? Not only this but bowl bans. Explain to me why a recruit would come here when that is happening? Please come up with one good reason please.

Lastly Golden has made staff changes. Do you not think Ice Harris has been a great pickup for this team? Do you not think Kehoe, who this idiot fanbase was bashing the first week and are now slurping, has done a good job? For people calling for Coach D's head, I'll ask you again. What do you expect from a defense that was starting friggin AJ Highsmith at a safety spot. Does that tell you there is talent there?

Hey. Genius.

What's the difference between our first games and our last three?

Different talent?

Golden sucks. Fly the banner.

Kids didn't trust the process for 3 1/2 years, so their tackling was ****. Three games ago, the kids began trusting the PorCess and now they magically know how to tackle. Come on, Archer, everybody knows this.
 
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Once again people with a little lack of football knowledge attempt to argue. You try to argue that our "scheme" blows. How do you expect a defensive coordinator to run a proper scheme without the proper players? Once again answer this question...Can a defense be successful with a QB turned safety in Highsmith starting in the secondary?

Another note on people saying Golden missed out on local talent and needs to make staff changes. How can you expect talent to come to a school with a pending investigation that took years to get over? Not only this but bowl bans. Explain to me why a recruit would come here when that is happening? Please come up with one good reason please.

Lastly Golden has made staff changes. Do you not think Ice Harris has been a great pickup for this team? Do you not think Kehoe, who this idiot fanbase was bashing the first week and are now slurping, has done a good job? For people calling for Coach D's head, I'll ask you again. What do you expect from a defense that was starting friggin AJ Highsmith at a safety spot. Does that tell you there is talent there?

Hey. Genius.

What's the difference between our first games and our last three?

Different talent?

Golden sucks. Fly the banner.

Our first game we held UL to 336 yards, whats your point?

We held Braska and GT under their season averages.

Poor QB play cost us the Braska game along with the GT game.

What is the difference between the last 3 games and earlier games you ask? The offense is sustaining long drives. Do you know what long drives do? They keep the opposing offense off the field.
 
Remember the time the OP forgot that Golden & Co out recruited all the opponents in a division he has yet to actually win? I do. Dude must be a trolololololooooo.

Out recruited them in which positions?

The positions that use cleats and wear helmets. Hope that narrows it down for you.

Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?
 
Please no more of these threads. If you love golden and want to show how much you love him then please just say so. No need to beat around the bush and justify your love or make excuses for his failures. Just come out say you love him more than the program, think he's a great coach and that there is nothing anyone can say that will change your mind. So much simpler and easier that way.
 
Remember the time the OP forgot that Golden & Co out recruited all the opponents in a division he has yet to actually win? I do. Dude must be a trolololololooooo.

Out recruited them in which positions?

The positions that use cleats and wear helmets. Hope that narrows it down for you.

Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?

So tell me

Duke
UNC
Va Tech
Ga Tech
Uva

Which one of those during Golden's tenure has out recruited us? I'll hang up and listen, genius.
 
Say what you will but the coaches have improved our record every year. I don't believe it is Golden's fault Shannon left junk at this school. I don't believe it is Golden's fault recruiting depth was not evenly balanced out (4 CBs recruited by Shannon in span of 4 years). I don't believe it is Golden's fault we had NO talent at QB so we resorted to transfers to build depth.

Is it funny now that Golden has dug his roots in Miami the team has far more talent? Is it a coincidence some of our best players are all underclassmen?

Even with all the garbage that has tarnished this football program we have improved in wins every year. Say what you will with scheduling but wins are wins, and this is all with a lack of talent. Imagine the possibilities now that actual depth is being built and there is talent spread across the team.

Have their been growing pains? Of course there has but what did you expect with what was here 4 years ago? No coach would have won here with a Stephen Morris at QB and freaking Highsmith as a starting safety. A QB turned safety was starting for us and you guys expected good things from our defense, el oh el.

What I find funny is how someone tries to ignore the fact that the conference has grown worse each year since Golden has been here. When Randy was here, we had UNC starting to look good (**** that team they had the year they got in trouble would have been scary good), GT occasionally cracking the top 20 and even the top 10 at one point, VT dominating as always (usually a top 10-15 team), FSU was still FSU (usually ranked, but not meeting championship expectations), and Clemson starting to turn into an actual threat.

This is not to say Randy only failed because of that, but Since Golden has been here, UNC is on the decline and **** near back to what they were when Butch took over, VT is the worst they have been in decades, GT is about the same, Duke is respectable, but an above average team at best (and doing it with mostly 2 star players), Virginia sucks, Pitt sucks, Clemson is the not great this year. In all honesty FSU and GT are the only good teams in this entire conference right now and I'm being generous for GT. For golden not to improve our wins each year would be an abomination considering how good our recruiting has been even with the cloud.

Keep throwing the players under the bus to support the coaches. Noone told the coaches to start Highsmith. If he was that bad, I find it hard to believe noone was more talented. Stemo was looking like a potential 1st rounder the year before last and magically got worse and I'm sure it had nothing to do with us bringing in a rookie OC.

Keep harping on more wins if you want, but if that's all that matters, we might as well go to the Sun Belt conference where Golden might only lose 1-2 games a year and we could keep talking about improving wins since opponent quality has no factor to you.
 
Once again people with a little lack of football knowledge attempt to argue. You try to argue that our "scheme" blows. How do you expect a defensive coordinator to run a proper scheme without the proper players? Once again answer this question...Can a defense be successful with a QB turned safety in Highsmith starting in the secondary?

Another note on people saying Golden missed out on local talent and needs to make staff changes. How can you expect talent to come to a school with a pending investigation that took years to get over? Not only this but bowl bans. Explain to me why a recruit would come here when that is happening? Please come up with one good reason please.

Lastly Golden has made staff changes. Do you not think Ice Harris has been a great pickup for this team? Do you not think Kehoe, who this idiot fanbase was bashing the first week and are now slurping, has done a good job? For people calling for Coach D's head, I'll ask you again. What do you expect from a defense that was starting friggin AJ Highsmith at a safety spot. Does that tell you there is talent there?

Hey. Genius.

What's the difference between our first games and our last three?

Different talent?

Golden sucks. Fly the banner.

Our first game we held UL to 336 yards, whats your point?

We held Braska and GT under their season averages.

Poor QB play cost us the Braska game along with the GT game.

What is the difference between the last 3 games and earlier games you ask? The offense is sustaining long drives. Do you know what long drives do? They keep the opposing offense off the field.

You're not paying attention, but you don't mind making these sweeping assumptions.

THIS YEAR - What's the difference between our last three games and the games against Duke, Louisville, Nebraska, and Georgia Tech?

It sure as **** wasn't because we had different players the last three games!

There goes your BS assumption that it wasn't scheme. It's either coaching/scheme, or it's players/talent. Same players all year, but now, different schemes.

Then you said it was staff changes. For God's sake - WHAT staff changes? One?

Golden's scheme sukked! It sukked balls!

Been looking mighty different the last three games though.

Get it?
 
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It's embarrassing how these coaches and the "adults" on this website throw these kids under the bus, in public. A ******* shame and sham these Goldenites are.
 
It's embarrassing how these coaches and the "adults" on this website throw these kids under the bus, in public. A ****ing shame and sham these Goldenites are.

Yeah, well,l Golden has been doing it after every single loss for the past three and a half years.

I hate that SOB.
 
Remember the time the OP forgot that Golden & Co out recruited all the opponents in a division he has yet to actually win? I do. Dude must be a trolololololooooo.

Out recruited them in which positions?

The positions that use cleats and wear helmets. Hope that narrows it down for you.

Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?

So tell me

Duke
UNC
Va Tech
Ga Tech
Uva

Which one of those during Golden's tenure has out recruited us? I'll hang up and listen, genius.

Lets see and breakdown all those teams

Duke - Program with established HC who has been there for years now. They've beaten us 1 year, and we recently just crushed them

VT - Another program with an established coaching staff and established system, BTW we recently just demolished them. Golden is 2-2 against them

GA Tech - Golden is 3-1 against them, recent loss came because of **** poor QB play

UVA - Golden lost to them his first two years with awfulness filling the roster, we recently just crushed them as well

UNC - We are 3-1 against them, exactly why are you bringing this team up?

We are 12-7 combined against these teams, recently beating all these teams besides GT which came down to bad QB play

3 of the teams you listed we have crushed in Golden's 4th year, where he finally has some talent on defense. We held GT to under their season averages and to 28 points except our QB played horribly

So what was the point of your post
 
Once again people with a little lack of football knowledge attempt to argue. You try to argue that our "scheme" blows. How do you expect a defensive coordinator to run a proper scheme without the proper players? Once again answer this question...Can a defense be successful with a QB turned safety in Highsmith starting in the secondary?

Another note on people saying Golden missed out on local talent and needs to make staff changes. How can you expect talent to come to a school with a pending investigation that took years to get over? Not only this but bowl bans. Explain to me why a recruit would come here when that is happening? Please come up with one good reason please.

Lastly Golden has made staff changes. Do you not think Ice Harris has been a great pickup for this team? Do you not think Kehoe, who this idiot fanbase was bashing the first week and are now slurping, has done a good job? For people calling for Coach D's head, I'll ask you again. What do you expect from a defense that was starting friggin AJ Highsmith at a safety spot. Does that tell you there is talent there?

Hey. Genius.

What's the difference between our first games and our last three?

Different talent?

Golden sucks. Fly the banner.

Our first game we held UL to 336 yards, whats your point?

We held Braska and GT under their season averages.

Poor QB play cost us the Braska game along with the GT game.

What is the difference between the last 3 games and earlier games you ask? The offense is sustaining long drives. Do you know what long drives do? They keep the opposing offense off the field.

You're not paying attention, but you don't mind making these sweeping assumptions.

THIS YEAR - What's the difference between our last three games and the games against Duke, Louisville, Nebraska, and Georgia Tech?

It sure as **** wasn't because we had different players the last three games!

There goes your BS assumption that it wasn't scheme. It's either coaching/scheme, or it's players/talent. Same players all year, but now, different schemes.

Then you said it was staff changes. For God's sake - WHAT staff changes? One?

Golden's scheme sukked! It sukked balls!

Been looking mighty different the last three games though.

Get it?

UL we held them to 336 yards

Scheme? So we play a different scheme against option teams then some pro style/spread teams? No really!!???
 
Out recruited them in which positions?

The positions that use cleats and wear helmets. Hope that narrows it down for you.

Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?

So tell me

Duke
UNC
Va Tech
Ga Tech
Uva

Which one of those during Golden's tenure has out recruited us? I'll hang up and listen, genius.

Lets see and breakdown all those teams

Duke - Program with established HC who has been there for years now. They've beaten us 1 year, and we recently just crushed them

VT - Another program with an established coaching staff and established system, BTW we recently just demolished them. Golden is 2-2 against them

GA Tech - Golden is 3-1 against them, recent loss came because of **** poor QB play

UVA - Golden lost to them his first two years with awfulness filling the roster, we recently just crushed them as well

UNC - We are 3-1 against them, exactly why are you bringing this team up?

We are 12-7 combined against these teams, recently beating all these teams besides GT which came down to bad QB play

3 of the teams you listed we have crushed in Golden's 4th year, where he finally has some talent on defense. We held GT to under their season averages and to 28 points except our QB played horribly

So what was the point of your post
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Say what you will but the coaches have improved our record every year. I don't believe it is Golden's fault Shannon left junk at this school. I don't believe it is Golden's fault recruiting depth was not evenly balanced out (4 CBs recruited by Shannon in span of 4 years). I don't believe it is Golden's fault we had NO talent at QB so we resorted to transfers to build depth.

Is it funny now that Golden has dug his roots in Miami the team has far more talent? Is it a coincidence some of our best players are all underclassmen?

Even with all the garbage that has tarnished this football program we have improved in wins every year. Say what you will with scheduling but wins are wins, and this is all with a lack of talent. Imagine the possibilities now that actual depth is being built and there is talent spread across the team.

Have their been growing pains? Of course there has but what did you expect with what was here 4 years ago? No coach would have won here with a Stephen Morris at QB and freaking Highsmith as a starting safety. A QB turned safety was starting for us and you guys expected good things from our defense, el oh el.

What I find funny is how someone tries to ignore the fact that the conference has grown worse each year since Golden has been here. When Randy was here, we had UNC starting to look good (**** that team they had the year they got in trouble would have been scary good), GT occasionally cracking the top 20 and even the top 10 at one point, VT dominating as always (usually a top 10-15 team), FSU was still FSU (usually ranked, but not meeting championship expectations), and Clemson starting to turn into an actual threat.

This is not to say Randy only failed because of that, but Since Golden has been here, UNC is on the decline and **** near back to what they were when Butch took over, VT is the worst they have been in decades, GT is about the same, Duke is respectable, but an above average team at best (and doing it with mostly 2 star players), Virginia sucks, Pitt sucks, Clemson is the not great this year. In all honesty FSU and GT are the only good teams in this entire conference right now and I'm being generous for GT. For golden not to improve our wins each year would be an abomination considering how good our recruiting has been even with the cloud.

Keep throwing the players under the bus to support the coaches. Noone told the coaches to start Highsmith. If he was that bad, I find it hard to believe noone was more talented. Stemo was looking like a potential 1st rounder the year before last and magically got worse and I'm sure it had nothing to do with us bringing in a rookie OC.

Keep harping on more wins if you want, but if that's all that matters, we might as well go to the Sun Belt conference where Golden might only lose 1-2 games a year and we could keep talking about improving wins since opponent quality has no factor to you.

I'm sorry but you just said Stephen Morris looked like he had first round potential. Check his stats please against any decent competition. I find it funny the defense everyone berates saved his *** against UNC/Wake/Florida last year while he was busy gaining personal foul calls.

And yes the lack of talent was that bad for Highsmith to be starting, please name me the talented backup we had for him
 
The positions that use cleats and wear helmets. Hope that narrows it down for you.

Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?

So tell me

Duke
UNC
Va Tech
Ga Tech
Uva

Which one of those during Golden's tenure has out recruited us? I'll hang up and listen, genius.

Lets see and breakdown all those teams

Duke - Program with established HC who has been there for years now. They've beaten us 1 year, and we recently just crushed them

VT - Another program with an established coaching staff and established system, BTW we recently just demolished them. Golden is 2-2 against them

GA Tech - Golden is 3-1 against them, recent loss came because of **** poor QB play

UVA - Golden lost to them his first two years with awfulness filling the roster, we recently just crushed them as well

UNC - We are 3-1 against them, exactly why are you bringing this team up?

We are 12-7 combined against these teams, recently beating all these teams besides GT which came down to bad QB play

3 of the teams you listed we have crushed in Golden's 4th year, where he finally has some talent on defense. We held GT to under their season averages and to 28 points except our QB played horribly

So what was the point of your post
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Nice deflection, you're done

Nice try playing though
 
OP doing his best Don Quijote impersonation and taking down every windmill in town.
 
Clearly you can't answer the question

Golden's first recruiting class 2012 are now juniors, how many of those players are starting on defense.

Once again our best defensive players are underclassman

Didn't know you expected between 7-8 underclassmen to field a top defense

Want to name me one school with underclassmen starting all over the defense and no depth with a top ranked defense?

So tell me

Duke
UNC
Va Tech
Ga Tech
Uva

Which one of those during Golden's tenure has out recruited us? I'll hang up and listen, genius.

Lets see and breakdown all those teams

Duke - Program with established HC who has been there for years now. They've beaten us 1 year, and we recently just crushed them

VT - Another program with an established coaching staff and established system, BTW we recently just demolished them. Golden is 2-2 against them

GA Tech - Golden is 3-1 against them, recent loss came because of **** poor QB play

UVA - Golden lost to them his first two years with awfulness filling the roster, we recently just crushed them as well

UNC - We are 3-1 against them, exactly why are you bringing this team up?

We are 12-7 combined against these teams, recently beating all these teams besides GT which came down to bad QB play

3 of the teams you listed we have crushed in Golden's 4th year, where he finally has some talent on defense. We held GT to under their season averages and to 28 points except our QB played horribly

So what was the point of your post
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Nice deflection, you're done

Nice try playing though

Calling out your deflection is a deflection. That's rich, Capt Strawman.
 
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