How we finish the season is important

[Jedi Master Cane]

Winning these last 2 games would be the absolute worst thing that could happen to this program.

The worst thing that could happen would be losing the last two games and Al Golden being retained.

Based on everything you know about our administration, you think he's getting fired this year?

I think if we lose those last 2 games a 6 loss season would either get him fired or cause a **** of a lot of heat...to the point where he might start flirting with a smaller program and run for the hills. If we get really lucky and also lose the bowl game it would be REALLY hard for him to conjure up an Al Golden special sequence of excuses that could justify a 7 loss season in his fourth full year.

If you're a true Canes fan with half a brain...pray for this scenario. Anything less than this and we're stuck with the worst coach in the history of this program for another year.

 

[DaU83]

Lol. True canes fans want us to lose. What a joke. Either way, I don't see any scenario other than 3 straight blow out losses, that would get al fired. And that's not going to happen.

 

[grogz26]

AG is right though

Will need a **** of a lot more depth at LB

 

[grogz26]

UVA has no offense. They are VT.

Kevin Parks is a good player

 

[DMoney]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

I get a migraine just reading that. 4 years in and we are dumpster diving for D-lineman still.

That's a "tell" if there ever was one.

 

[nyibis]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

Are you saying this staff needs players to save their jobs?
Do you think this staff can win a conference championship with a load of all stars? I think the majority of posters think not. There in is the problem.
I think we could have won some more games with the amount of talent we have if they were developed and coached to their potentials.

How the **** did this team turn completely around in a month? I am seriously confounded.
Did the players step up their games or did the coaching staff step up theirs?

Seriously! Are we ever going to get to the goals we want to achieve with this staff?

 

[DMoney]

you saying this staff needs players to save their jobs?

I'm not really talking about the staff. The program needs this class to be good. Whether it's these guys or another staff. A good haul, bookended by the strong 2014 class and the talent in 2016, would go a long way.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

With all due respect...I couldn't possibly disagree more.

Every day he stays it further sets the program back. Sorry...but I can't get onboard with this train of thought.

Given the set of current circumstances a "strong" finish is the worst possible thing that could happen to this program in both the short and long term.

 

[theu852]

owens needs to put on some weight in the offseason or he will get thrown around

 

[grogz26]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

Couldn't agree more....a strong finish will make the home stretch or recruiting exciting

 

[User-4525]

AG is right though

Will need a **** of a lot more depth at LB

He says this, with Armbrister and Denzel, but then only has one above average linebacker in Perry committed. Also, George flipped. So unless he reels in Coney and Sapp what has he done as a CEO to address his program's weakness? I do not expect McCray and Mike smith to contribute at LB next year.

 

[User-4525]

I agree 100% with able and his list of 2015 studs. Mcintosh will be a force if developed right. Has the build (wide shoulder, filled out lower body no homo) and feet.


Mcintosh, Chad Thomas, Demetrius Jackson, Scott patchan, Courtel, and Moten. All Dline guys or jack players (McCord role) that I expect to contribute heavily the next two years. These guys need to be maximized

 

[Arehel]

WTF is "strong" about the 2015 UM class?

You think the guys I listed are marginal?

You named 11 players. 11 players is a schit class.

Butch Davis schits on the 2015 class.

If you hit 11 players with a class on average. That means every year you have 44 very good starting caliber players on your team.
Looking at the depth of this team, I'd be very happy with that type of depth.
It's the distribution of where they are positionally that's the problem.

 

[scrantoncane]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

With all due respect...I couldn't possibly disagree more.

Every day he stays it further sets the program back. Sorry...but I can't get onboard with this train of thought.

Given the set of current circumstances a "strong" finish is the worst possible thing that could happen to this program in both the short and long term.

What your shortsighted and simple-minded viewpoint fails to take into consideration is that a collapse down the stretch equals lost momentum, which equals losing recruits, which EVEN if it means golden getting fired, it means the next guy is left with a weak, depleted roster, and the vicious cycle starts all over again.

Why don't you try not acting like a 12 yr old boy and contributing something of substance to this site. The "root for looses or you're not a fan" shtick is getting real stale.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

With all due respect...I couldn't possibly disagree more.

Every day he stays it further sets the program back. Sorry...but I can't get onboard with this train of thought.

Given the set of current circumstances a "strong" finish is the worst possible thing that could happen to this program in both the short and long term.

What your shortsighted and simple-minded viewpoint fails to take into consideration is that a collapse down the stretch equals lost momentum, which equals losing recruits, which EVEN if it means golden getting fired, it means the next guy is left with a weak, depleted roster, and the vicious cycle starts all over again.

Why don't you try not acting like a 12 yr old boy and contributing something of substance to this site. The "root for looses or you're not a fan" shtick is getting real stale.

The program keeps "trending up" for our long term safety, meanwhile Al keeps turning in 9-4 seasons. It doesn't matter how good our classes are, or if we have some sort of continuity with our current leadership, the program is stuck in limbo and will never, ever, ever be good under Golden. An all-star team of the 2000-2002 teams would go 9-4 with Golden.

So no, having a façade of a "strong" finish, or "building momentum" is probably the worst thing that could happen. There is going to be no "next guy" if that's the case.

 

[FullyERicht]

D$:

Could you please ask those in the know why the white guy is getting a pass for the same exact results the black guy got fired for?

 

[bxcanesbomber]

Hopefully our bowl opponent is a rival school Ohio state, notre dame, or a overhyped pac 12 team....and we beat the crap out of them!!!!

 

[scrantoncane]

I wanted to make this thread, but didn't have the stomach.

Golden is sticking around at least another year. The best thing for the program is a strong finish (for once), a bowl win (forgot what that feels like), and two months of psychotic recruiting.

We absolutely need this class to be good. There are marquee players, which Able highlighted, that we need to keep. And we need to add a couple more. Keep our studs, add Merrick and Callaway, close on Irvin, finish with a strong CB class and sign a couple JUCO/5th year front seven players to shore up depth. That's what we need.

With all due respect...I couldn't possibly disagree more.

Every day he stays it further sets the program back. Sorry...but I can't get onboard with this train of thought.

Given the set of current circumstances a "strong" finish is the worst possible thing that could happen to this program in both the short and long term.

What your shortsighted and simple-minded viewpoint fails to take into consideration is that a collapse down the stretch equals lost momentum, which equals losing recruits, which EVEN if it means golden getting fired, it means the next guy is left with a weak, depleted roster, and the vicious cycle starts all over again.

Why don't you try not acting like a 12 yr old boy and contributing something of substance to this site. The "root for looses or you're not a fan" shtick is getting real stale.

The program keeps "trending up" for our long term safety, meanwhile Al keeps turning in 9-4 seasons. It doesn't matter how good our classes are, or if we have some sort of continuity with our current leadership, the program is stuck in limbo and will never, ever, ever be good under Golden. An all-star team of the 2000-2002 teams would go 9-4 with Golden.

So no, having a façade of a "strong" finish, or "building momentum" is probably the worst thing that could happen. There is going to be no "next guy" if that's the case.

I am not endorsing the staff. For example, winning out but giving up 500+ yards to UVA and Pitt might put more heat on Coach D, which allows the doomers to keep flyin their banners while still keeping the class in tact.

The point is that, unless you buy into the theory that we can hire a coach who can win to this fanbase's content with a roster that lacks talent and depth, any coach that comes in and doesn't win 10 games right away will be right on the hot seat just like Golden. And that is the vicious cycle. At some point we need some sort of continuity.

To me, that time is now. We all agree the team looks better the past 5 weeks. I don't see the point of wanting anything less than winning out to keep the momentum we have going. Why start from scratch when we don't have to?

 

[shayleon]

I say get on board or cheer for another team. To be a fan and say that you're rooting for losses just sounds ridiculous. Would you rather be wrong about Golden and have a good team, or be right about him and have a bad one?