How long can Miami really afford to suck for?

[Caneman2]

For all people like to talk about USC before Carroll, OU before Stoops, Bama before Saban, etc., people fail to consider that these programs have a much deeper and richer history than Miami does.

Those programs all had winning histories and national titles dating back a long time. Even when they were down for a decade or two, they remained CFB "brands."

Miami had a very mediocre football history before 1983. Bascially we were good from roughly 83-03, and have been very mediocre before and since. We're something of a blip on CFB history as a whole. I'm not really sure we can afford a long down period and be able to recover.

 

[Caneman2]

If you choose to use a somewhat generous definition of 1980-2005 as the good days of Miami football, here is what you get


Heading into the 1980 season, Miami's win % was .53442. At that point, we were between Rutgers (.535) and Kansas (.53313) in win percentage, to provide some context. http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin...=1869&end=1979&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct


From 1980 to 2005, we led the country with a .81731 win percentage http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin...=1980&end=2005&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct


From 2006 to 2018, we had a .58434 win percentage, which ranks 40th, between Toledo and Georgia Tech. http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin...=1980&end=2005&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Win+Pct


The stassen database only runs through 2018. If you include the 0-2 in 2019, our win percentage from 2006 on drops to .57738, and our ranking probably goes down a bit.

 

[iLoveTDs]

It’s over man. Better get used to it. We don’t have the public school money, boosters, BOT, AD, or culture to win in this current landscape of cfb.

Hard truth

 

[WhatTheHell]

We’re SMU.

We don’t matter.

 

[TerragonSix]

It’s over man. Better get used to it. We don’t have the public school money, boosters, BOT, AD, or culture to win in this current landscape of cfb.

Hard truth

And soon, schools will have to pay players, which big schools will thrive at, and smaller schools like Miami won't keep up.

Then, it will truly be over.

 

[TemplarCane]

Cancel the program or leave the ACC for Conference USA or AAC.

 

[drewm3i]

I honestly believe that it is finally over. Hiring Shannon and Golden back to back buried this program.

 

[ADELPHI]

Cancel the program or leave the ACC for Conference USA or AAC.

This is the right answer. Switch places with UCF or switch to D2.

 

[Mrfree]

We waited too long to fix it.

Ppl dont think about miami anymore

 

[motorcitycane]

Program has been dead to everyone except us. We are close to being 20 years from relevancy.

People laugh when I tell them I’m a fan of this program. If you take off the caneshades it’s not hard to see why.

 

[Insanecane]

I honestly believe that it is finally over. Hiring Shannon and Golden back to back buried this program.

Don't forget Diaz.

 

[streetja]

What's another 16 years?

 

[JBCanes-NC]

It's been over a decade now

 

[Insanecane]

Moving to the ACC guaranteed money for Miami. Winning stopped mattering, we get paid the same either way.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Its already too late when they fuqed us with the MR hire we were cooked and then to mess it up with this **** show. Its been over man the only way we get saved is if like an Urban Meyer type hire if not this is TNM. Bama will rape us in 2 years and we will be officially dead even though we have been dead awhile.

 

[simplycanes]

It’s over man. Better get used to it. We don’t have the public school money, boosters, BOT, AD, or culture to win in this current landscape of cfb.

Hard truth

It's looking that way, add in that we've completely conceded our one true advantage, local recruiting.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

I honestly believe that it is finally over. Hiring Shannon and Golden back to back buried this program.

They really weren't. Manny really is the nail. Shannon took over the program with enough talent to dominate the Coastal and had enough talent a couple years to win the ACC. Golden took over the program with enough talent to run the Coastal every year without any issue and as you saw with the close games with FSU, he at least had enough talent to compete with FSU for the ACCC. Richt had enough talent to run the Coastal. Manny was left with enough talent to absolutely murder the coastal. Only team in the Coastal with a 5 star. Double the 4 stars of every other team besides Va tech(and we are only a couple players off from that). Now, with Manny recruiting the way he does. The next coach coming in is not going to have the best talent in the Coastal and he may not even have the 2nd most talent in the Coastal. At that point its over. No coming back from that.

 

[JBCanes-NC]

Randy Shannon.... Al "The Cloud" Golden... Low Energy Mark and now his sweaty looking DC... MORONS

 

[canecodpiece]

It has been dead, just a figment of a bunch old timers recollection now. We were young, hung, and the baddest MFers in college football, the things that made us unique - the OB, the Pro Canes returning to train each offseason, the first round pipeline, the irreverence - its all just ghosts now, whispers in the dark. Sleep well sweet prince.

 

[kryptonite]

For all people like to talk about USC before Carroll, OU before Stoops, Bama before Saban, etc., people fail to consider that these programs have a much deeper and richer history than Miami does.

Those programs all had winning histories and national titles dating back a long time. Even when they were down for a decade or two, they remained CFB "brands."

Miami had a very mediocre football history before 1983. Bascially we were good from roughly 83-03, and have been very mediocre before and since. We're something of a blip on CFB history as a whole. I'm not really sure we can afford a long down period and be able to recover.

Then we're done, aren't we? We're recruiting kids who weren't born last time we won a NC, and it won't be long before those recruits can say we haven't been relevant at all in their lifetimes, let alone won anything.