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How Do We Fix The O-Line?

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Reed ain’t been giving a chance ask anyone on the team before you go saying who has done something
 
My solution is to emulate programs that actually put out good offensive lines. Develop players over YEARS not just a spring and summer. Even Florida was playing mostly guys who had years of practice and development. We threw a true freshman and a redshirt freshman into the fire and who knows what happens to their confidence and development now.

Everyone wants to believe Jalen Rivers and Issiah Walker would solve this over night - they won’t. Starting or relying on freshman to play offensive line must end and guys must be developed.

For this season? I’d chip constantly, eliminate the play action calls, and get Irving and Realus George on the field more. I’d play more wildcat and I’d hammer into Jarren that his internal clock needs sped up. Id call read options plays very often and run/pass options constantly. Id make the offense where Jarren is making one quick read and going or knows where the play is going before the snap. I’d call a conservative ugly offense most of this season and rely on the defense. I might also go back to having shifts and motion in the offense that inexplicably disappeared last night.
 
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DMoney said:
Scaife at T is an option to seriously consider during the bye week.

People don’t want to hear this, but a huge part of the problem is just youth. Out of the 10 OL in the the two-deep, there is only one junior and no seniors. That is an insanely young group.
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IMO lack of guys who can play at this level, this year, this week, is a talent issue. Maybe in a couple years they’ll be better. Maybe not. We do not know. But games are played with what you got, and what we got aint good enough on OL. We should all agree with that.
 
It's going to take a few cycles of recruiting; Its about finding the right type and developing them. Never seems to happen for teams trying to do it on the fly after the cream that rises to the top isn't enough.

Miami will never be back without a quality O-Line. We will hear about this 10 sack game for a while.
 
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On Nelson, his biggest issue was just getting out of his stance quick enough. They need to change up the snap count to give these guys a chance. Greenard and them boy were almost around them before they came out of their stance. I would have liked to have seen a few more RPO's too. I remember one for sure to JT for 10 yards.
 
Gator Hatar said:
Lets be honest, there was pressure up the middle too. We can focus on Campbell and Nelson, but Gaynor, Scaife and Donaldson were getting pushed back too. We just don't have the OL talent and just have to hope they get better.
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They were to budy helping each other that Backers were shooting their gaps making plays. Especially Donaldson everytime #51 shot through Donaldson was helping someone who didnt need it.
 
I agree with several folks here based upon what I saw and having played oline I tend to focus there during games. We are atrocious at both tackle positions and yes our interior got dominated all night as well. Donaldson may have been the least atrocious but I saw him embarrassed multiple times too. It is what it is folks, and I trust the coaches tried to put what they thought was the best combo out there and prayed their boys would rise to task at hand. Damm sure didn't happen. Time to break down film and use next 2wks to create a plan for minimizing damage going forward. Didn't help our QBs clock is too slow and his skill mates punked out on him.
 
Dmoney is right. We are just super young. UF realized about the end of the first quarter that the OTs were overmatched and they just pinned their ears back. Misdirection would have been nice and Enos NEEDS to understand he doesn't have Bama or Arkansas quality OL.
 
WhatTheHell said:
Serious schematic/personnel discussions only.

Short of building a time machine and making guys like Evan Neal sign at gunpoint the last 3 seasons, what are our options?

1. Any chance Cleveland Reed be put at guard and Scaife/Donaldson be kicked out to Tackle? Are either of them versatile enough to slide out? How ready is Reed?

2. Herbert and Hillery should be given snaps vs UNC without a doubt. See how they respond in-game. I know people use this line a lot, but this time, it might actually be impossible to play worse than our tackles did last night.

3. Enos needs to go back to the drawing board. Spread the field, wider splits, stop trying to power run people like you’re at Bama. I believe our best runs of the night were made by DeeJay breaking 35 tackles out of the wildcat. We’re not bulldozing anyone in traditional offensive schemes.

4. Enos needs to help the tackles more. These guys were on islands a majority of the night. I think I saw some chipping and releasing toward the end, but let’s keep a tight end or a back in more often to help. Late in the 4th quarter, for example, DeeJay had one of the most beautiful blitz pickups I’ve ever seen.

5. I’d say more screens as an initial reaction to this issue, but I feel like we threw several.


So can we reconfigure the line and move a guard out to tackle? If not, Hillery and Herber have to get snaps vs UNC early. Find someone who can even put up a fight.

We allowed 16 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, and 5 QB hurries. Something has to change if we want any success in conference this year.

What’s your solution?
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I thought Art Keyhole was really bad. I never could have imagined that Searles and now possibly Butch Barry would be even worse.
 
IMHO , I would keep this OL together let them lose suffer together let the beating on the ANVIL form them together.

Together we do all things, if anyone here thought there wouldn’t be what you saw well you just don’t know TEAM sports.

In time this OL will be college BEST like a Samari sword sharp and deadly at the beginning it was raw hunk of steel.

Do not separate them , this front will be awesome TOGETHER

GOCANES
 
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Nelson has to get out of stance quicker. He was so slow that I’m not sure if he was locked in on the count
 
WhatTheHell said:
We allowed 16 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, and 5 QB hurries.
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If people want to think "UF has the best DL we'll face outside of Clemson", fine.

But that is a trash performance indicative of major systemic issues we will deal with all year long. 16 TFLs is absolutely unheard of. 11 sacks? I can't recall the last time we ever gave 11 sacks. Every team on our schedule is licking its chops for a chance to go up against our tackles. This isn't because of UF's dominance but more our lack of talent on the line and we're going to see that come two weeks from now when we play a sorry UNC team and I guarantee they're going to get several sacks.
 
WhatTheHell said:
Serious schematic/personnel discussions only.

Short of building a time machine and making guys like Evan Neal sign at gunpoint the last 3 seasons, what are our options?

1. Any chance Cleveland Reed be put at guard and Scaife/Donaldson be kicked out to Tackle? Are either of them versatile enough to slide out? How ready is Reed?

2. Herbert and Hillery should be given snaps vs UNC without a doubt. See how they respond in-game. I know people use this line a lot, but this time, it might actually be impossible to play worse than our tackles did last night.

3. Enos needs to go back to the drawing board. Spread the field, wider splits, stop trying to power run people like you’re at Bama. I believe our best runs of the night were made by DeeJay breaking 35 tackles out of the wildcat. We’re not bulldozing anyone in traditional offensive schemes.

4. Enos needs to help the tackles more. These guys were on islands a majority of the night. I think I saw some chipping and releasing toward the end, but let’s keep a tight end or a back in more often to help. Late in the 4th quarter, for example, DeeJay had one of the most beautiful blitz pickups I’ve ever seen.

5. I’d say more screens as an initial reaction to this issue, but I feel like we threw several.


So can we reconfigure the line and move a guard out to tackle? If not, Hillery and Herber have to get snaps vs UNC early. Find someone who can even put up a fight.

We allowed 16 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, and 5 QB hurries. Something has to change if we want any success in conference this year.

What’s your solution?
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Good thread.

I think the main culprit is youth.

All the key players of the operation are young.

Florida was jumping the snap on a lot of their edge pressure.

We were probably tipping our hand.

As the guys get more experience, we can break the huddle faster and switch up the cadence.

Before I panic and move anybody, I’d see how they respond with coaching.

If we haven’t made any improvements, then we probably have no choice but to shuffle.

Kick out Scaife to RT.

Honestly, Campbell was worse then Zion.
 
brock said:
We got to try scaife at left tackle at this point. I think Campbell can develop into something but he did have like 4-5 penalties and got beat a few times. Nelson looks unplayable honestly. Insert Cleveland reed at rg and move scaife to left tackle
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Scaife was getting beat at guard and you wat to put him at LT vs quicker and better pass rushers?
 
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