Honest question. I haven't looked up the answer

[The Franchise]

How many eventual championship level HCs did worse in their first year at a program than the fired guy who they replaced?

I haven't looked up the records, but I think Carroll was close his first year taking over for Hackett.

Pretty clear Rix is going to be worse than Folden/Scott. That's should scare and sicken everyone. I'd like to know if anyone did the same thing and went on to have great success at that same school.

 

[Hegemon]

Shula went 6-6 (bowl loss) 2006 and Saban 6-6 (bowl win) 2007

 

[Tony Perps]

I think maybe Tressel.

But the problem is Richt wasn't some new guy who needed a year to get **** figured out. He's an extremely experienced coach.

 

[88]

I'm scared sick before you even brought it up.

 

[BadCompany]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

 

[TemplarCane]

Good question, but Paul Hackett was 5-7 his last year at USC, Carroll improved one game to 6-6.

Jim Tressell was 7-5 his first season at Ohio State. John Cooper was fired after an 8-4 season the previous year.

 

[The Franchise]

Shula went 6-6 (bowl loss) 2006 and Saban 6-6 (bowl win) 2007

Not worse. Saban went 7-6. Close record though. I guess it remains to be seen how much worse Rix will do this year than Folden/Scott did in 2015.

 

[TemplarCane]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Carroll was 6-6, Saban 7-6. They started their murder sprees a year later.

 

[Hegemon]

Shula went 6-6 (bowl loss) 2006 and Saban 6-6 (bowl win) 2007

Not worse. Saban went 7-6. Close record though. I guess it remains to be seen how much worse Rix will do this year than Folden/Scott did in 2015.

First one I thought of.

Season isn't over yet but sheesh win a ******* game Richt.

 

[The Franchise]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Pay attention to the specific question if your ADD permits you to do that.

 

[The Franchise]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Carroll was 6-6, Saban 7-6. They started their murder sprees a year later.

Neither was worse than the guy he replaced. I looked it up, and Hackett won 5 games the year before Carroll took over.

 

[The Franchise]

Good question, but Paul Hackett was 5-7 his last year at USC, Carroll improved one game to 6-6.

Jim Tressell was 7-5 his first season at Ohio State. John Cooper was fired after an 8-4 season the previous year.

There's one. Tressell. There's hope!!

 

[Consigliere]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Nick Saban improved at each place.

MSU:

Before Saban: 5-6
After Saban: 6-5-1

LSU:

Before Saban: 3-8
After Saban: 8-4

Alabama:

Before Saban: 6-7
After Saban: 7-6


Pete Carroll at USC

Before Carroll: 5-6
After Carroll: 6-6

All improved.

 

[TemplarCane]

Shula went 6-6 (bowl loss) 2006 and Saban 6-6 (bowl win) 2007

Not worse. Saban went 7-6. Close record though. I guess it remains to be seen how much worse Rix will do this year than Folden/Scott did in 2015.

I would not be shocked if Richt finished 4-8.

 

[BadCompany]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Carroll was 6-6, Saban 7-6. They started their murder sprees a year later.

It was sarcasm dude.

 

[BadCompany]

Pete and Nick killed it their first years.

Carroll was 6-6, Saban 7-6. They started their murder sprees a year later.

Neither was worse than the guy he replaced. I looked it up, and Hackett won 5 games the year before Carroll took over.

Minus my obvious sarcasm, neither made huge improvements in the record department. Obviously the subtle improvements their first year was in other areas not yet known.

 

[gacaneaddict]

These coaches took other jobs, and These coaches haven't won NC, but they were close.

Butch was 8-3 year after Erickson went 10-2.

Petrino went 9-4 year after Strong went 12-1.

Chris Peterson went 8-6 year after Steve Sarkisan went 9-4.

 

[orange&green84]

I think maybe Tressel.

But the problem is Richt wasn't some new guy who needed a year to get **** figured out. He's an extremely experienced coach.

So was Saban.

 

[ssj4cane]

Does Chris Peterson count?

Never mind sark wasn't fired.

 

[The Franchise]

These coaches haven't won NC, but they were close.

Butch was 8-3 year after Erickson went 10-2.

Petrino went 9-4 year after Strong went 12-1.

Chris Peterson went 8-6 year after Steve Sarkisan went 9-4.

Neither Erickson nor Strong were fired. Neither was Sark.