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Homer and the draft

DTP said:
Walton had very solid production as a sophomore and was playing lights out as a junior before the injury. If I remember correctly, he was getting over 7 yards per carry when he went down. It's not like he had no body of work for scouts to make a judgement on. His balance, vision and versatility got him drafted.
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I’d take homer over walton any day. I like Walton but at the end of the day homer was MUCH more productive than walton especially against top competition and it’s not even close
 
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40 time will greatly predicate if he climbs to 3rd round of falls to 5th range. He’s in a tricky position because RBs have a shorter shelf life and also has some horses behind him on the roster. I know he loves it here though and another year could help solidly a higher position instead of leaving it up to question.

Joe Jackson is the only other junior that I’ve gotten a grade as high as 3rd on (3rd-4th). I think he’s a first rounder if he returns and is healthier next year.
 
apfenny3 said:
40 time will greatly predicate if he climbs to 3rd round of falls to 5th range. He’s in a tricky position because RBs have a shorter shelf life and also has some horses behind him on the roster. I know he loves it here though and another year could help solidly a higher position instead of leaving it up to question.

Joe Jackson is the only other junior that I’ve gotten a grade as high as 3rd on (3rd-4th). I think he’s a first rounder if he returns and is healthier next year.
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OK legit question. If Travis stays for a senior year but loses carries to other backs, would that hurt his draft stock? Assuming he was still productive in a more limited role.
 
apfenny3 said:
40 time will greatly predicate if he climbs to 3rd round of falls to 5th range. He’s in a tricky position because RBs have a shorter shelf life and also has some horses behind him on the roster. I know he loves it here though and another year could help solidly a higher position instead of leaving it up to question.

Joe Jackson is the only other junior that I’ve gotten a grade as high as 3rd on (3rd-4th). I think he’s a first rounder if he returns and is healthier next year.
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Wow, Joe Jackson now a 3rd-4th round grade? That's a massive freefall from most preseason first round projections for him. Hope he stays, but I'm doubtful.
 
DTP said:
Walton had very solid production as a sophomore and was playing lights out as a junior before the injury. If I remember correctly, he was getting over 7 yards per carry when he went down. It's not like he had no body of work for scouts to make a judgement on. His balance, vision and versatility got him drafted.
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I agree Walton was solid, but "solid" doesn't = 4th round pick

As for playing "lights out" his Junior year, I saw the same pattern as Fr & Soph years:

Walton Freshman Year
Vs. Bethune & FAU - 24 att, 127 yds, 5.3 ypc, 4 TD's
Vs. Everyone Else - 106 att, 334 yds, 3.2 ypc, 4 TD's

Walton Sophomore Year
Vs. FAMU, FAU, App St - 48 att, 401 yds, 8.4 ypc, 7 TD's
Vs. Everyone Else - 161 att, 761 yds, 4.4 ypc, 7 TD's

Walton Junior Year
Vs. Bethune & Toledo - 27 att, 352 yds, 13.0 ypc, 3 TD's
Vs. Everyone Else - 29 att, 76 yds, 2.6 ypc, 0 TD's

Walton Career
Vs. Bethune, FAMU, FAU & Toledo - 99 att, 880 yds, 8.9 ypc, 14 TD's
Vs. Everyone Else - 296 att, 1,126 yds, 3.8 ypc , 12 TD's

Walton vs. weak teams kept getting better and better. Walton vs. good teams stayed pretty level

Now compare that to Homer

Homer Career
Vs. Bethune, FAMU, FIU, Sav. St. & Toledo - 66 att, 416 yds, 6.3 ypc, 3 TD's
Vs. Everyone Else - 238 att, 1,326 yds, 5.6 ypc , 8 TD's

Homer is better against good competition, more consistent, is bigger, and is a much better athlete. Just a better NFL prospect.
 
canadianhurricane said:
I dont know if he has the wiggle they like seeing in the league. Hes a tough north-south runner tho. Me too, he should stay and continue to put on size he'll need for the league. For his running style, I'm not sure his body will hold up. I'd love to see him play thru a season around 220 instead of just start a season around that size
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He doesn't have the wiggle and probably would be late round pick or FA.
 
brock said:
Doesn’t mean walton does either
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They do different things better than the other ... I think homer is a harder runner but him looking for contact sometimes hurts us and I thought Walton just had better vision

I’m not going to trash either player because they’ve done nothing to warrant it and they’ve both played hard for Miami but I believe the two backs we have Davis/Lingard are spooky good
 
I like Homer and he has done a ton for this team but I like to see him leave for the betterment of this program. He runs hard but has mediocre vision and does not wait for holes to open up in the O-Line. I like to see Lingard, Davis and Dallas get the majority of the touches in our backfield going into next year. Lingard and Davis appear to have the patience and the breakaway speed that is frightening for d coordinators to have to plan against. And Dallas is just a tough runner who is pretty good at everything (needs to stop fumbling though...SMDH).
 
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DTP said:
OK legit question. If Travis stays for a senior year but loses carries to other backs, would that hurt his draft stock? Assuming he was still productive in a more limited role.
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I don't think losing carries would hurt him as long as his production were to increase. Maybe not overall yards but ypc, and just overall consistency.
 
Poptimus said:
Wow, Joe Jackson now a 3rd-4th round grade? That's a massive freefall from most preseason first round projections for him. Hope he stays, but I'm doubtful.
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I think he's a monster but it's a deep draft for edge rushers and Jackson has had some inconsistencies. I think one more year pushes him into the 1st.
 
PokemonFisherman said:
They do different things better than the other ... I think homer is a harder runner but him looking for contact sometimes hurts us and I thought Walton just had better vision

I’m not going to trash either player because they’ve done nothing to warrant it and they’ve both played hard for Miami but I believe the two backs we have Davis/Lingard are spooky good
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Agree with this whole post. The thread wasn't about who was better at running back Homer or Walton, it was about Homer's draft stock.

Honestly, with the returning talent in the backfield, Homer leaving wouldn't be a big deal.
 
Oddly enough, the bigger loss of homer would be his impact on special teams coverage units
 
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