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Cribby said:
This is Miami, all of you should know Jurichs past is the hold up. There’s older Bot members concerned about that and other issues that happened on his watch while at UL. That’s the same reason some folks have doubts about Miami hiring Lane. There’s members that worry about the image of the program and are nervous about hiring anyone with some checkered pasts. The other group wants Jurich, most of those pushing for him are the same ones taking the program to the next level. That should tell you what group is pushing for the same ole typical hire.
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Sure hope the new money boosters "just say no" then if it isn't Jurich. Why throw good money after bad and repeat the same mistakes of the past by hiring an unproven AD?

Let's hope we've finally moved on from the PC, mismanaged athletic department of the last two decades.
 
razrcane said:
Lane was also missing his top two wrs against Auburn.
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And Mario was missing Thibideoux and Flowe and still beat Ohio state at the shoe. He has been without Flowe all year. And his OC was rushed to the hospital right before the Stanford game.
I was not trying to sht on Lane. Great coaches still lose games. I’d love it if we get either. I lean towards Mario bc i feel he has a better chance of staying here long term if he is successful but would be thrilled to get either.
 
Cribby said:
I’ve always viewed Jurich as the guy and his name has always been one of the two names always popping up. Hernandez has supporters on the other side of the room. He‘s the typical guy ” that group ” would want. There’s also a previous relationship with Mario. I only mentioned him because hearing his name instantly sounded like something they‘d do in the past lol. The one positive all the people with the plan and money wants Jurich. But there’s around a hundred members.
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Two-horse race then. Watch we go hire the fat man....unreal.
 
DMoney said:
I recorded a long podcast, released it Friday, became uncomfortable with some of the details revealed and deleted it. But since most of the info was kosher, figured I would update it and post the thrust of it here.

First, a timeline. Manny and Blake were cooked with the important people after Michigan State. The bye week only added to the wave of anger. Then, Kirk Herbstreit made his comments about the administration. This led directly to Frenk putting out his statement before the Virginia game. The writing was on the wall for Blake at this point.

It is important to understand the players here. Frenk knows what he doesn't know, so he appointed two trusted people to act on his behalf with the football nitty-gritty: Joe Echevarria (CEO of UHealth) and Rudy Fernandez (Chief of Staff to the President).

The two are considered excellent complements of each other. Echevarria is a Bronx Puerto Rican who grew up with a single mom and rose all the way to CEO of Deloitte. He is also the CEO of Obama's My Brother's Keeper Alliance. Fernandez is a Cuban, Miami-born Harvard grad who worked in the George W. Bush White House. He is very in tune with governmental relations, while Echevarria is a business guy. Rudy is a diehard Canes fan- he follows CanesInSight on Twitter and frequently retweets or likes recruiting minutia. These are the point men from the University side and they are very involved.

The next set of players are financial backers. Some of these individuals are also very tied into the university. The main name here is Jose Mas. We've talked about the Mas brothers, but Jose (CEO of MasTec) is the lead here. The Mas brothers are owners of Inter Miami CF (the local MLS team) and taking an increased role in sports. They are also Columbus grads.

The newer player is John Ruiz. He is a Miami lawyer who helped develop a system of recovering government payments that should have been paid by insurance. If his SPAC deal goes through, he is in line to be worth over $20 billion and become the richest man in Florida. You can read more about it here. His son played baseball for Miami and he is interested in sports ownership with his newfound wealth. Ruiz is related to Cristobal through marriage.

A famous name is Marcus Lemonis, CEO of Camping World and star of CNBC reality show "The Profit." Lemonis has been active with the program in recent months. You can see him on Twitter liking numerous posts critical of the Athletic Department and program. Lemonis is a Columbus grad.

Two more names are Carol Soffer and Dan Lambert. The Soffer family is worth billions and developed Aventura, Florida. She is a hardcore UM sports fan who is seen regularly at all athletics events. The IPF is named after her. Lambert made money on cruises and has gained some fame as owner of the American Top Team gym and a manager on All Elite Wrestling. He put together the $500/month NIL deal ($540K total) for every player on the team. He also started a marketing company called "Bring Back the U" with the goal of bringing donors together to use the NIL program to benefit student-athletes. This ran into hurdles with the problems on the field.

Soffer and Lambert speak frequently and were both incensed at the 2019 debacle, including the FIU loss. They were driving forces in promoting Alonzo Highsmith for an advisory role to Manny. That fell through in spectacular fashion, even as I was told by sources with direct knowledge that it was a done deal. That 2019 fiasco soured many key people on Blake and Manny. Highsmith briefly spoke to Oregon about a job after that, but those discussions fizzled out.

So now to the coaching search. It's not hard to see the connections here. Mas and Lemonis went to Columbus, as did Cristobal. Ruiz is related to Cristobal through marriage. Highsmith went to Columbus. Cristobal is the top target.

Based on everything I've been told, money is not an issue. You can't put that message out and then get outbid by Oregon. It would set back the perception of our program worse than it was before. Cristobal has a side deal with Knight (seven-figures) but has to pay onerous state income taxes in Oregon. I expect us to match Oregon's financial commitment and force Cristobal to say no.

I'm told that the biggest factor in Oregon's favor is that he wants to coach his recruits. Cristobal believes he can win a championship there. However, speaking personally as a Cuban with deep Oregon ties, the cultural pull to Miami will be strong. And there are major issues with the Oregon QB room. There is buzz that the receivers have no faith in the people passing the ball. Miami offers a much deeper QB room that will allow for immediate success.

My educated guess is that he will pick Miami, all else being equal. The biggest hurdle was the playoff push, and that's over. Here is something worth noting: on late Thursday night, there was a Canes Twitter Spaces (basically a live podcast stream) with guys like Manny Navarro discussing the program. One notable name joined the call before getting spotted: Oregon OL coach and Columbus grad Alex Mirabal.

On the Lane side, I am told by sources connected to Ole Miss that Lane wants the Miami job. Ole Miss is one of the most senior-heavy teams in the country and Matt Corral is leaving. I don't have confirmation on our interest but have heard his name mentioned enough to believe it is real. Florida is the other team to watch but they may be zeroing in on Napier. There was initially some LSU buzz with Lane, but that has faded considerably.

There is a ton of misinformation being thrown out on the AD search. I've heard three different names in two days from credible people. Here is what I know for sure: CIS was the first to report on the same day UM fired Blake that Tom Jurich had considerable interest in the job. That hasn't changed. He lives in Tampa and has been in communication with key decisionmakers identified above. There is considerable support for him as a candidate. The big hurdle, obviously, is his departure from Louisville and claims that he was insubordinate by refusing to fire Pitino. As a pure AD candidate, he is perfect.

I would expect Alonzo to have a role, if not AD. He was spotted speaking at length with Echevarria at the Georgia Tech game.

One last thing to clear up. I've posted a lot about Mario, so people assume I am a Mario-or-bust guy. The truth is I want a proven P5 head coach. That's why I didn't push for Mario or Manny in 2018. Now that we are in 2021, both Mario and Lane meet that criteria. I lean Mario because of sustainability and high floor, but both guys would be incredibly exciting hires.

This search reminds me of 2015. Stu Miller (billionaire chairman of Lennar) was so disgusted by the Clemson massacre that he took control of the operation and demanded a proven, P5 head coach. They ended up paying big for Richt. The timing of that was off, but they were focused on the right things and our results were the best in 15 years. I think this search will be similar with a rising (instead of a fading) candidate.

As an aside, the reporting on this one has been unusually accurate. Mike Ryan Ruiz is a friend and I know he is providing legit info. I don't know David Lake but his source is accurate as well. We know what the plan is. Now it's just about executing.
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Some people are speculating that Manny Sr. Is trying to get
DMoney said:
I recorded a long podcast, released it Friday, became uncomfortable with some of the details revealed and deleted it. But since most of the info was kosher, figured I would update it and post the thrust of it here.

First, a timeline. Manny and Blake were cooked with the important people after Michigan State. The bye week only added to the wave of anger. Then, Kirk Herbstreit made his comments about the administration. This led directly to Frenk putting out his statement before the Virginia game. The writing was on the wall for Blake at this point.

It is important to understand the players here. Frenk knows what he doesn't know, so he appointed two trusted people to act on his behalf with the football nitty-gritty: Joe Echevarria (CEO of UHealth) and Rudy Fernandez (Chief of Staff to the President).

The two are considered excellent complements of each other. Echevarria is a Bronx Puerto Rican who grew up with a single mom and rose all the way to CEO of Deloitte. He is also the CEO of Obama's My Brother's Keeper Alliance. Fernandez is a Cuban, Miami-born Harvard grad who worked in the George W. Bush White House. He is very in tune with governmental relations, while Echevarria is a business guy. Rudy is a diehard Canes fan- he follows CanesInSight on Twitter and frequently retweets or likes recruiting minutia. These are the point men from the University side and they are very involved.

The next set of players are financial backers. Some of these individuals are also very tied into the university. The main name here is Jose Mas. We've talked about the Mas brothers, but Jose (CEO of MasTec) is the lead here. The Mas brothers are owners of Inter Miami CF (the local MLS team) and taking an increased role in sports. They are also Columbus grads.

The newer player is John Ruiz. He is a Miami lawyer who helped develop a system of recovering government payments that should have been paid by insurance. If his SPAC deal goes through, he is in line to be worth over $20 billion and become the richest man in Florida. You can read more about it here. His son played baseball for Miami and he is interested in sports ownership with his newfound wealth. Ruiz is related to Cristobal through marriage.

A famous name is Marcus Lemonis, CEO of Camping World and star of CNBC reality show "The Profit." Lemonis has been active with the program in recent months. You can see him on Twitter liking numerous posts critical of the Athletic Department and program. Lemonis is a Columbus grad.

Two more names are Carol Soffer and Dan Lambert. The Soffer family is worth billions and developed Aventura, Florida. She is a hardcore UM sports fan who is seen regularly at all athletics events. The IPF is named after her. Lambert made money on cruises and has gained some fame as owner of the American Top Team gym and a manager on All Elite Wrestling. He put together the $500/month NIL deal ($540K total) for every player on the team. He also started a marketing company called "Bring Back the U" with the goal of bringing donors together to use the NIL program to benefit student-athletes. This ran into hurdles with the problems on the field.

Soffer and Lambert speak frequently and were both incensed at the 2019 debacle, including the FIU loss. They were driving forces in promoting Alonzo Highsmith for an advisory role to Manny. That fell through in spectacular fashion, even as I was told by sources with direct knowledge that it was a done deal. That 2019 fiasco soured many key people on Blake and Manny. Highsmith briefly spoke to Oregon about a job after that, but those discussions fizzled out.

So now to the coaching search. It's not hard to see the connections here. Mas and Lemonis went to Columbus, as did Cristobal. Ruiz is related to Cristobal through marriage. Highsmith went to Columbus. Cristobal is the top target.

Based on everything I've been told, money is not an issue. You can't put that message out and then get outbid by Oregon. It would set back the perception of our program worse than it was before. Cristobal has a side deal with Knight (seven-figures) but has to pay onerous state income taxes in Oregon. I expect us to match Oregon's financial commitment and force Cristobal to say no.

I'm told that the biggest factor in Oregon's favor is that he wants to coach his recruits. Cristobal believes he can win a championship there. However, speaking personally as a Cuban with deep Oregon ties, the cultural pull to Miami will be strong. And there are major issues with the Oregon QB room. There is buzz that the receivers have no faith in the people passing the ball. Miami offers a much deeper QB room that will allow for immediate success.

My educated guess is that he will pick Miami, all else being equal. The biggest hurdle was the playoff push, and that's over. Here is something worth noting: on late Thursday night, there was a Canes Twitter Spaces (basically a live podcast stream) with guys like Manny Navarro discussing the program. One notable name joined the call before getting spotted: Oregon OL coach and Columbus grad Alex Mirabal.

On the Lane side, I am told by sources connected to Ole Miss that Lane wants the Miami job. Ole Miss is one of the most senior-heavy teams in the country and Matt Corral is leaving. I don't have confirmation on our interest but have heard his name mentioned enough to believe it is real. Florida is the other team to watch but they may be zeroing in on Napier. There was initially some LSU buzz with Lane, but that has faded considerably.

There is a ton of misinformation being thrown out on the AD search. I've heard three different names in two days from credible people. Here is what I know for sure: CIS was the first to report on the same day UM fired Blake that Tom Jurich had considerable interest in the job. That hasn't changed. He lives in Tampa and has been in communication with key decisionmakers identified above. There is considerable support for him as a candidate. The big hurdle, obviously, is his departure from Louisville and claims that he was insubordinate by refusing to fire Pitino. As a pure AD candidate, he is perfect.

I would expect Alonzo to have a role, if not AD. He was spotted speaking at length with Echevarria at the Georgia Tech game.

One last thing to clear up. I've posted a lot about Mario, so people assume I am a Mario-or-bust guy. The truth is I want a proven P5 head coach. That's why I didn't push for Mario or Manny in 2018. Now that we are in 2021, both Mario and Lane meet that criteria. I lean Mario because of sustainability and high floor, but both guys would be incredibly exciting hires.

This search reminds me of 2015. Stu Miller (billionaire chairman of Lennar) was so disgusted by the Clemson massacre that he took control of the operation and demanded a proven, P5 head coach. They ended up paying big for Richt. The timing of that was off, but they were focused on the right things and our results were the best in 15 years. I think this search will be similar with a rising (instead of a fading) candidate.

As an aside, the reporting on this one has been unusually accurate. Mike Ryan Ruiz is a friend and I know he is providing legit info. I don't know David Lake but his source is accurate as well. We know what the plan is. Now it's just about executing.
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Do you see any scenario where Manny is back? Absolutely nobody has come out and said definitively that a decision to fire Manny after the season has been made. It sounds like all roads lead that way, but even the idea that Manny could possibly be back makes me nervous.
 
DMoney said:
OK, so we are counting that year now?

Then he has two straight conference titles and is playing for the third in a couple weeks.
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The bottom line is that hiring Mario, signals the most dramatic change in the way Miami will do sports. Because before he excepts he'll demand the world and if they give it to him it means that the U will be on a level playfield moneywise/resorces with everyone Alabama and Oregon included
 
DiegoCane said:
This isn't a visionary? Why hire Jurich when you have a Miami bro! Dale!

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That sh*t needs a NSFW tag on it...look at that humanoid!
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
When I tried to say this about Lane, the Lane Train's collective head blew up.
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Soffer Family is worth $2 billion. Mas Brothers $1.3 billion. Lemonis is a piker at $500 million. Anybody's guess how much Ruiz will be worth in a couple of months. These people don't investment money and don't want to have a significant say. Anybody think that T. Boone Pickens didn't have a say at OSU?

Of course, Miami is going to have concerns about Kiffin and it is legitimate. Same with a guy like Hugh "Show Cause" Freeze.
 
JZCane0825 said:
I'm fine with Mario as long as it's Jurich in the AD seat
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AND Lashlee has the OC, which to me is significantly more important than the attention it is getting. There's no way in heck that as well as Oregon has recruited the past 4 years that there's not a better passing QB than ABrown on that roster. This leads me to believe that the failures of the Oregon QB room falls on either Mario or his OC/QB coach JM.

Give us Mario but please please please let Mario convince/offer Lashlee the prospect of staying to continue TVDs ascension. Simply put, look at it this way: Take it back to the pre 2001 season, where the kids wanted Coker to not have to adjust etc.....well let's view this the same way but from the OC/QB coach perspective. Mario is the head man and brings his calvary with him, but keeps Lashlee/TVD connection going so the one elite thing our team does has continuity.

And when you consider prior reports posted of Mario's interest in working with Lashlee, coupled with Oregon's offensive woes, it would seem to me that this would be a no-brainer. Here's to hoping that it happens this way.
 
Canesmia01 said:
Lane inherited the number 1 QB in the nation. How did he do without him against a bad Auburn team this year? Put up 20 points and lost. Nick Saban isn’t walking through the door. If we get Mario OR Lane that is a massive win at this point.
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He developed Corral into what he is today. Oh and Lane is on pace to go 10-2 in the toughest division in the sport in his second year. If you think Lane with Mario’s talent advantage would be in 4th quarter games with Cal, Washington and Arizona you’re out of it.
 
LuCane said:
The same Utah team that lost to SDSt and BYU would beat *every* coastal team by 2 TDs? I'd take that bet.
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After the BYU and San Diego St losses put them at 1-2, they starting rolling out that sophmore QB. Been a much different team since. I think the current Utah squad would be tops in the ACC although thats not saying much this year.
 
If the powers that be want to employ Alonzo, just straight out offer him the AD job. Jurich, or any other self-respecting candidate should surely balk at anyone "carving" football out of their purview. Unless they just want to be a neutered figurehead.
 
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fincane said:
He developed Corral into what he is today. Oh and Lane is on pace to go 10-2 in the toughest division in the sport in his second year. If you think Lane with Mario’s talent advantage would be in 4th quarter games with Cal, Washington and Arizona you’re out of it.
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So you have one candidate?
 
Canesmia01 said:
And Mario was missing Thibideoux and Flowe and still beat Ohio state at the shoe. He has been without Flowe all year. And his OC was rushed to the hospital right before the Stanford game.
I was not trying to sht on Lane. Great coaches still lose games. I’d love it if we get either. I lean towards Mario bc i feel he has a better chance of staying here long term if he is successful but would be thrilled to get either.
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Mario has a lot more talent on his roster (according to the rankings) which I give him credit for since he is a great recruiter. His teams, however, underperform. Lane gets more out of the talent on his roster. I would be OK with Mario if he brings in the right OC.
 
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