Head Coach Power Rankings

#1

  • Mario Cristobal

    Votes: 134 59.6%
  • Greg Schiano

    Votes: 13 5.8%
  • Lane Kiffin

    Votes: 77 34.2%
  • Tom Herman

    Votes: 16 7.1%
  • Mark Stoops

    Votes: 93 41.3%
  • Luke Fickell

    Votes: 87 38.7%
  • Dave Clawson

    Votes: 27 12.0%
  • Billy Napier

    Votes: 22 9.8%
  • Jamey Chadwell

    Votes: 14 6.2%
  • Matt Campbell

    Votes: 34 15.1%

  • Total voters
    225
  • Poll closed .
I think I would have put Freeze in, instead of Campbell and Schiano. We won’t get Freeze bc of the school. We won’t get the other two bc they won’t leave those jobs for Miami from what it seems. A lot of us have said Freeze. It would be interesting to see where he would fall on the poll.
Yeah Hugh Freeze is no question a fan favorite. He’d probably be 5th right now behind Mario, Stoops, Fickell, and Kiffin. Or maybe even ahead of a few of those. He’s a home run on the field, maybe the best upside of any of these coaches. But hard to see UM even discussing him as an option.
 
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Yea, Herman is an automatic no for me. Saw on another board from someone in the know that he was sleeping with members of the AD, had some coke issues and also there’s the whole swingers stuff with him and his wife. Plus I feel like @SouthParkCane said the kids from Houston didn’t rock with him after the way he left. Easy pass on that guy. Seems like a real piece of work.
Talk about a culture fit with Miami though
 
Don’t see “other” as an option. That would be my vote only because I don’t see any of the options listed coming to the U.

I agree 100%

We tend to think more highly of ourselves than is actually the case.

Dream on, speculate because it's fun BUT IMO I agree that no one listed as "possibilities" especially the board's favorite of the week are going to even consider coming here.

We can list ALL the favorables that we can "think " of. Even think of ourselves as a top tier landing spot but eventually we will have to face the truth. You can successfully recruit SFL even while being outside of SFL. Recruits are increasingly more mobile and willing to leave home. So like USC out west, that moment has passed us by.

IMO these top coaches especially those already at successful programs aren't looking for "challenges", They've already proven that they can turn a program around or lead one to success, they are looking to continue upon that and add to their already attained success. Not risk totally losing it. Why take that chance? (Notice none of our past HC failures have gotten other HC positions) So again, why take that career suffocating risk?

We can find a good coach. Just be prepared to accept that he'll probably be someone NOT currently receiving top tier limelight and will most probably be an Assistant currently coaching at a successful program.

This opinion might make some of you angry or you just may simply or totally disagree. Fine either way. It's still my opinion.

I'm just not going to argue with anyone about it because you have the same rights as I do to civilly express yours.
 
So you suggest offering current NFL head coaches (other than Harbaugh) the Miami job? You really think an NFL head coach is going to give one of 30 jobs in the world to be the HC at the University of Miami?

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Dude had a hard on for Dan Enos, dude is not meant to be taken seriously, Harbaugh?? HAHAHAHA, Sean Peyton? Riiiiiight
 
Herman is the low key steal on this list. I think he’d kill at UM.
Agree ... he is a legit football coach and tremendous recruiter. What he accomplished with Houston .. competing for recruits with the big $$ programs in Texas .. is pretty amazing. In my view he would come in with a similar background as JJ and Dennis .. and would absolutely kill it in Miami.
 
PJ Fleck would get an interview for sure.

From my perspective Miami needs someone who can coach fundamentals and discipline. Someone who can evaluate talent. Fleck provides that for Minn. They are routinely ranked low in terms of penalties.

Anyone can bring in top 20 talent into the U. Not sure I see a major difference between the talent that Randy, Al, Richt or Manny brought in. If we pull in like talent and focus on discipline and fundamentals we should be a top 20 team every year. We may be vanilla as ****, but being a year in and out top 20 team will help our recruiting class make it to the next level.

People keep saying we need a recruiter (wall up SFL) and I am not so sure anymore. The main thing hurting our recruiting is failed seasons where our more talented teams play completely undisciplined and lose to inferior talent teams. The bottom line unless we can get a coach who focusses on fundamentals and discipline we will keep shooting ourselves in the foot every year. No recruiter can overcome year in and year out disappointments.

I was high on Mario but I am off that train. While he would stay for the long haul Oregon is just as undisciplined as Miami. Mario would be fighting the same issue as every other coach does down here. He would focus on recruiting and do well for some time but he would fail to stop the kids from losing the game they shouldn't and then recruiting would suffer.
 
Fickell/Peterson are in no way coming to Miami. Peterson is either USC or staying in retirement for now. Fickell AD from Cincy is at USC so I’d bet he’s either 1A or 1B with another candidate. The only way I don’t see him at Cincy or USC is if Franklin leaves Penn st (I don’t see it happening) and penn st goes after Fickell.

Herman is a hard pass. Hafley I don’t think would take the job even though I think he would be extremely successful here. For people saying he doesn’t have enough experience, NFL teams were calling him to interview for HC jobs last year and had a few DC offers to go back to the league before. But he isn’t experienced enough to be the Miami HC? Lol…

Miami isn’t a glamor job as it used to be. I like Cristobal for different reasons than most. Yes, he is a monster recruiter and will snag a bunch of great players locally and nationally. But I think his ability to hire great coordinators is understated. He surrounds himself with great coaches with a ****t ton of experience. He’s a former OL so his teams have that mentality. I saw someone say he doesn’t go against anyone in recruiting lolll…. He didn’t go against Clemson for Flowe? Or Georgia for Sewell? Or DJ to Clemson? He beat out Penn st for a Top 50 player nationally from Maryland (WR) last year. He beat out Georgia for a 5 star CB from Missouri. That’s just a real shallow observation saying he doesn’t go against the top dogs in recruiting. Yes, he has the distance to his advantage but guess what? So does Miami so that doesn’t matter.
 
Yea, Herman is an automatic no for me. Saw on another board from someone in the know that he was sleeping with members of the AD, had some coke issues and also there’s the whole swingers stuff with him and his wife. Plus I feel like @SouthParkCane said the kids from Houston didn’t rock with him after the way he left. Easy pass on that guy. Seems like a real piece of work.
No way he would last in south Florida. The Houston/Texas coaches aren’t really handlers cause they’re paid very well down here although they like to be involved with their guys and Herman was an ******* to all of the coaches out here. He needed to a strong staff to survive recruiting
 
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Fickell/Peterson are in no way coming to Miami. Peterson is either USC or staying in retirement for now. Fickell AD from Cincy is at USC so I’d bet he’s either 1A or 1B with another candidate. The only way I don’t see him at Cincy or USC is if Franklin leaves Penn st (I don’t see it happening) and penn st goes after Fickell.
People don't seem to get that. Fickell isn't even going to take the SC job, IMO. Penn St dominoes opening things up for him could certainly make it interesting.

Agree that Hafley isn't coming here either. Good point on Mario with the coordinators as well - I'm just worried about the OC hire the most with him.
 
People don't seem to get that. Fickell isn't even going to take the SC job, IMO. Penn St dominoes opening things up for him could certainly make it interesting.

Agree that Hafley isn't coming here either. Good point on Mario with the coordinators as well - I'm just worried about the OC hire the most with him.
Yeah I think it’ll be tough for Fickell to say no to the USC job, knowing Bohn is going to give him whatever he needs to be successful.

Yeah I think we all are lol. But he already has 3-4 HCs that coached under him in the past. So he clearly knows a good coach when he sees one. Most recently Avalos now at Boise.
 
Yeah I think it’ll be tough for Fickell to say no to the USC job, knowing Bohn is going to give him whatever he needs to be successful.

Yeah I think we all are lol. But he already has 3-4 HCs that coached under him in the past. So he clearly knows a good coach when he sees one. Most recently Avalos now at Boise.
I think Fickell stays. USC beat guys already seem to think it's unlikely. My understanding has been that he really doesn't want to live outside of the Midwest -- family is very rooted there. We'll see though. Maybe they make him an offer that he can't refuse, but he's going to be the hottest coaching candidate in the country if they make it to the CFP as a G5, and he'll be in the B12 in a year or two. Unless SC is a dream job, not really sure that he'll take that.
 
So you suggest offering current NFL head coaches (other than Harbaugh) the Miami job? You really think an NFL head coach is going to give one of 30 jobs in the world to be the HC at the University of Miami?

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You're right. Nobody ever goes from a pro job to a college job. Ooops, I forgot the most successful coach in college football history did just that.

Sean Payton makes $8M and now has no QB. Maybe he wants to make $8M w/no tax and build something from scratch.

Mike Zimmer makes $4M and is perennially on the hot seat. Maybe he wants a pay RAISE and some job security.

Doug Pederson was making $4M a year and was fired after winning a Super Bowl with dog**** offensive players (besides Ertz).

Its better to ask and be turned down than to never ask and not know.
 
I think Fickell stays. USC beat guys already seem to think it's unlikely. My understanding has been that he really doesn't want to live outside of the Midwest -- family is very rooted there. We'll see though. Maybe they make him an offer that he can't refuse, but he's going to be the hottest coaching candidate in the country if they make it to the CFP as a G5, and he'll be in the B12 in a year or two. Unless SC is a dream job, not really sure that he'll take that.
Yeah if he gets in the CFP this year than their might not be a reason for him to leave lol he already making 3.4mil too. That’ll jump up.

And a lot of these new coaches coming up they aren’t with the taking every single jump becuSe it’s a jump. They want stability, a school they can compete at but won’t get flamed for a down year. Ala Campbell, Hafley etc..
 
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Great questions.

I think Texas is an extremely tough place to build a champion.

The external expectations are insane, possibly the hardest in the country, and the culture surrounding the program seems to be a lot of rich, selfish and inflated egos. The only reason Mack Brown succeeded is because he had arguably the best college QB ever and a second guy who was phenomenal in his own right. Outside of those years Texas has been the Georgia of the B12, even with all the money in the world and unilateral domination on recruiting (at that time). Brown made it harder to do the job by raising expectations while burning bridges and making recruiting the state harder. That job is cutthroat and friendless. In short, Texas ruins people.

I like Herman as a play caller and a developer. He’s a serious football mind that isn’t that far removed from being at the front of the game schematically. The only place he didn’t succeed was Texas, but I obviously don’t pin that all on him. He made Houston think it was a P5 player all by himself. The only knock on him there is how he finished his last season, but he was already heading out of town. He recruited well, developed well and got the most out of his offensive players there. D’Eriq King under Herman would be a much better player than under Lashlee.

I also think Herman coaches with a chip on his shoulder, which fits Miami like a glove. The guy loves to **** people off, and I think Texas robbed him of being the wild card. He had to conform to the mountain range of expectations. Miami is a mole hill by comparison.

The risk with him is that he isn’t hungry anymore, that Texas genuinely killed his imagination and drive. That may be the case and we would have a younger, slightly more capable Richt on our hands if so. But all of these cats have risk, no matter who they are, and while he isn’t my first choice he’s in the top 5 for sure.
Really well-written IAH

Will say if we're going to hire Manny's replacement off the scrap heap, a coach let go for paying players or banging hookers or snorting coke is preferable to a guy who got fired because he lost too much at the University of Texas.
 
Mario would be a huge improvement from what we have, but in typical Mario fashion, he beats a good team, and then craps the bed the next week. He's on the next tier of coaches...and still makes time management and boneheaded decisions this far into his career. I think he's get us 9-10 wins with an unexpected loss or 2 to inferior opponents.
 
Here's what we don't need for our next HFC:

1. A career assistant
2. A person whose greatest credential for the job is his ties to UM's glory days
3. Someone unfamilar with the culture and dynamics of the University of Miami, its football program and the Dade, Broward and PB region.
4, A guy whose best coaching days are behind him
5. An easy hire with an apparent hook to generate buzz (e.g. his dad was the Mayor!)
 
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