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Has Mario lost the support of the big money donors

AtlAtty said:
To me, it certainly feels like this is what happened and UM no longer has the ability to outbid others. And If I am correct, then it certainly would mean that UM has peaked, or will peak this season, but does not have a sustainable model.

I would love for our insiders to be honest with the rest of us as to why UM seemingly does not have the financial ability to compete at the very highest level (top 5).

I love UM football, but if we are a second tier football program then let’s be honest about it. Let’s be Louisville, or Maryland, and embrace who we are. Or better yet, let’s be Duke and stop squandering our limited resources on football and focus on basketball and baseball wehre those funds could be moire effective. What I am tired of being is a program that acts like it should be in the top 5, but can’t spend as needed to be in the top 5. We will become, if we are not already, the last ones to know that the joke is on us.
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Miami has a top 7NIL program in the country, I don’t know what to tell you. SMH I guess you conveniently forgot that we have the highest rated player in the country in our class this year.
 
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bacane said:
Probably not that hard to figure. Miami isn’t pocketing what SEC and Big 10 programs are annually. Relatively small, private schools and - despite a few wealthy cats - likely don’t have access to the wealth/resources available at Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, etc.
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Do you realize that Miami just surpassed $2.5 Billion dollars in donations over the last 4 years in a major funding campaign for future university development. There were 440 donations of $1 million dollars in that period, and a couple in the $50 - $120M level. UM has wealthy supporters ... this current NIL situation is just insane. There are 130 D1 programs ... every program has different needs ... and Texas DESPERATELY needs a quality RB and 1). Is offering an amount no other school will match (ie overpaying) 2). Is guaranteeing him he will be the starter ... period 3). Reportedly guarantees that he will be the only RB taken.

Miami got the #1 overall commit in the class ... but they cannot be expected to budget to nail down EVERY top recruit.
 
Udynasty said:
Not the case. The money is there.

We had higher offers for most of the kids we lost including both safeties.

Miami has to win SOMETHING this year. Year 4, put up or shut up. Because the last two years kids have been watching this programnself destruct at the end. Time to go from "improving" to "winning"
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This is interesting that winning is important.

Kids aren't buying that we got *** ****ed in 2022 to set the standard, won 7 games” the right way” in 2023, and then choked at the end of 2024 to build culture?

I am stunned by this...
 
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JHallCanes said:
I’m old enough to remember people clowning the QB from OSU saying you go to Miami for money and OSU for championships

It’s really not all that funny though

Money is clearly there but good employees like benefits as well
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Well he's starting for them this year so lets see if he puts up or shuts up.


Just Sayin
 
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AtlAtty said:
To me, it certainly feels like this is what happened and UM no longer has the ability to outbid others. And If I am correct, then it certainly would mean that UM has peaked, or will peak this season, but does not have a sustainable model.

I would love for our insiders to be honest with the rest of us as to why UM seemingly does not have the financial ability to compete at the very highest level (top 5).

I love UM football, but if we are a second tier football program then let’s be honest about it. Let’s be Louisville, or Maryland, and embrace who we are. Or better yet, let’s be Duke and stop squandering our limited resources on football and focus on basketball and baseball wehre those funds could be moire effective. What I am tired of being is a program that acts like it should be in the top 5, but can’t spend as needed to be in the top 5. We will become, if we are not already, the last ones to know that the joke is on us.
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Looks to me like you created a factless assertion (we are being outbid). There is zero evidence that we don't have $. Based on perfformance over the last 10 years when current recruits were alive and maybe watching a little football, I'd argue that our recruiting far ouclasses our perormance.
 
Rickd said:
Do you realize that Miami just surpassed $2.5 Billion dollars in donations over the last 4 years in a major funding campaign for future university development. There were 440 donations of $1 million dollars in that period, and a couple in the $50 - $120M level. UM has wealthy supporters ... this current NIL situation is just insane. There are 130 D1 programs ... every program has different needs ... and Texas DESPERATELY needs a quality RB and 1). Is offering an amount no other school will match (ie overpaying) 2). Is guaranteeing him he will be the starter ... period 3). Reportedly guarantees that he will be the only RB taken.

Miami got the #1 overall commit in the class ... but they cannot be expected to budget to nail down EVERY top recruit.
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That’s all wonderful, but no way in **** Miami can compete player-for-player with Texas, Ohio State & Company. If those programs are determined or desperate as you say to land a player, they’re able to do so most times.
 
NCCanefan said:
So you're just shilling for CiS? Why?
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It’s a discussion. And if you read the comments you will see there are views on many sides. Adults need to be able to have discussions, accept that none of us have all the answers, and listen (read) the opinions of others without becoming upset.

And we should have the courage to pose questions or viewpoints, even if the result is that some people disagree with us. That is exactly what I did here. And it created a discussion from which I learned information I did not have, and hopefully others did as well. As to who is correct, well that remains to be seen. But to me the value of CIS is that it is not an echo chamber. That would be boring. This is not.
 
bacane said:
That’s all wonderful, but no way in **** Miami can compete player-for-player with Texas, Ohio State & Company. If those programs are determined or desperate as you say to land a player, they’re able to do so most times.
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This is precisely my concern as well, and what this recruiting cycle in particular seems to have highlighted. We can compete for a few high level players, but not as many players as the schools you mentioned.
 
I feel like it is possible that some of these schools with more copious funds are willing to pay for the commitment right now in a way we are not willing to do. They get the kid to commit now for money we won't match and bank on us failing down the stretch and being able to keep the kids as our on field momentum tanks.

Mario on the other hand might be willing to bet he can win this season and then rely on the on field momentum to flip these kids with an equivalent long term NIL package or even bigger bag in the final hours. At least that's what I am hoping.
 
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AtlAtty said:
This is precisely my concern as well, and what this recruiting cycle in particular seems to have highlighted. We can compete for a few high level players, but not as many players as the schools you mentioned.
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Very true. Imagine the goal is to spend and be competitive as possible until can land in Big Ten or SEC. Need to be in a big money conference going forward or will be a constant struggle.
 
Miami finished 18th in the AP poll last year. Any class ranked better than 18 will mean we still recruit better than we play.

Some of you guys just don’t get it. If we’re going head to head against UGA, Ohio State, LSU and Texas for kids we HAVE to outbid them significantly for a kid to even pay attention to us. Currently, Miami can’t offer anything else. Those schools win a lot more and put more kids in early draft rounds. Until we win on a level near where those schools are at and start getting kids drafted regularly, we’re always going to have to overpay .
 
FL Cane said:
Yeah I gotta say this is one of the most off posts I’ve seen from a Maude. The reality is that we’re competing with some major programs for these top recruits. Making the Jump into the Top Ten is tough, which we have done, but making the Top Five is a whole other animal.

Mario has major support among donors and the people that matter in school admin. Joe E. is 100% behind him, and the major school donors are too. His seat is as Ice Cold as any in the country. And as much as I’ve had issues with him (I blasted him after the Iowa State bowl loss on here) The reality is, in this landscape, nobody has the resources to play for every elite recruit or angle. Cantwell also definitely changed the calculus for us on available $$$. However, a lot of recruits are also just doubtful of our trajectory. We gotta have a minimum 10-2 regular season + ACC Championship to keep up the momentum. Need Beck to be a Top Five pick. Narrative needs to continue to change.
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If we go 10-2 and split ND/UF then this season was a success.

There’s more quality wins available to us this year compared to last,

VS ND (top 10 opponent)
VS UF (Top 20 opponent)
Vs Louisville (Top 25 opponent)
@ SMU (Top 25 opponent)
IMO Syracuse has a chance to be a top 25 team too, I’m a fan of the ND QB who transferred there and they have an easy schedule

10-2 has to be the floor, anything below will be a failure.

If Mario can get an Anthony brown led Oregon team to go into Columbus and beat OSU then I believe he can get a Carson Beck led Miami team ready for ND/UF @Home

Big games aren’t Mario’s weakness, it’s the middle of the pack teams that MOST people assume are W’s (yes you could call the GT/Syracuse games Big games but not from a brand/National attention perspective.)

No matter how irrelevant we have been we ALWAYS get every teams best shot or we are their Super Bowl. Mario has the most well rounded roster that we’ve had in a long long time.

I have very high expectations for: Beck, Bain, Jojo, Fletcher/Lyle, Bell, Troure, Lucas, K Scott/J Scott and Lightfoot

Forget DT for a second and when you see our DEs I’m VERY excited, we have several 5⭐️s going into their 2nd/3rd year

I expect Hetherman to have similar success to Diaz in 2017.
 
StevoBevo said:
If we go 10-2 and split ND/UF then this season was a success.

There’s more quality wins available to us this year compared to last,

VS ND (top 10 opponent)
VS UF (Top 20 opponent)
Vs Louisville (Top 25 opponent)
@ SMU (Top 25 opponent)
IMO Syracuse has a chance to be a top 25 team too, I’m a fan of the ND QB who transferred there and they have an easy schedule

10-2 has to be the floor, anything below will be a failure.

If Mario can get an Anthony brown led Oregon team to go into Columbus and beat OSU then I believe he can get a Carson Beck led Miami team ready for ND/UF @Home

Big games aren’t Mario’s weakness, it’s the middle of the pack teams that MOST people assume are W’s (yes you could call the GT/Syracuse games Big games but not from a brand/National attention perspective.)

No matter how irrelevant we have been we ALWAYS get every teams best shot or we are their Super Bowl. Mario has the most well rounded roster that we’ve had in a long long time.

I have very high expectations for: Beck, Bain, Jojo, Fletcher/Lyle, Bell, Troure, Lucas, K Scott/J Scott and Lightfoot

Forget DT for a second and when you see our DEs I’m VERY excited, we have several 5⭐️s going into their 2nd/3rd year

I expect Hetherman to have similar success to Diaz in 2017.
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Syracuse was the biggest game of Mario's career. The stakes were higher than any other game he coached.
 
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