X's and O's Guidry's Multiple Nickel Defense: The Basics

I had no idea you had this in you lol. This was amazing work.
Nowadays I'm just a lowly fan and occasional internet troll.

Initially I was doing these during law school classes after I stopped coaching. Found CiS as a way to scratch the itch. AG was the coach back then--you know what happened next. I like Guidry a lot, so I guess he inspired me to come back out with these.

@AlexCane I played HS ball down here as an outside linebacker in a 34. Played Div. III college ball under now Columbus head coach Dave Dunn. Played as a Will inside linebacker in a 43 under (a GA from Florida was our DC); and in a 43 over (bud foster type system). Graduated and coached high school for a while before going back to law school. I was trained in that 425 system and coached safeties.

I miss it a lot--mainly I miss the people I coached with.
 
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Nowadays I'm just a lowly fan and occasional internet troll.

Initially I was doing these during law school classes after I stopped coaching. Found CiS as a way to scratch the itch. AG was the coach back then--you know what happened next. I like Guidry a lot, so I guess he inspired me to come back out with these.

@AlexCane I played HS ball down here as an outside linebacker in a 34. Played in Div. III college ball under now Columbus head coach Dave Dunn. Played as a Will inside linebacker in a 43 under (a GA from Florida was our DC); and in a 43 over (bud foster type system). Graduated and coached high school for a while before going back to law school. I was trained in that 425 system and coached safeties.

I miss it a lot--mainly I miss the people I coached with.
Yeah , I‘m accustomed to your trolling ways so I was blown away by this thread lol.
 


Foreword:
Some of you know me from many, many years back where I would create the occasional instructional post on defensive football. I don't want to go on too much about my resume, but I can say I have some good coaching or playing experience with the following systems: Gary Patterson 425; Bud Foster 43 over; Charlie Strong 43 under; 34 2-gap and slant. The bulk of my training and experience is in what one would call a traditional 425. Respectfully, I feel somewhat qualified to share my ideas and knowledge with respect to the same.

DISCLAIMER FOR THE ENSUING DISCUSSION:
*The bulk of this discussion relates to base defense--any type of blitz pressure involves a different conversation (which we can have)*

*Be aware of language barriers--you and others may be saying the same thing, but using different words. Don't play a word game with someone*
*I don't know what happens behind closed doors in Guidry's meeting rooms--thus, I can only present my past experiences and in-game observations*

Introduction:
There is a lot to talk about--and I want to start with the basics.

Coach Guidry and Coach Patterson (imo the father of the 425) share a lot of similarities in temperament, philosophy and defensive system (aka "skeem"). It's my opinion that Coach Guidry's system is a natural progression from prior iterations of the 425. FWIW, Guidry might even refer to his system as a 43. Regardless, through 4 games, based on what I can see, we are functioning like a 425. I want to talk about nickel based defense generally and what I can glean from Guidry's system. Coach Guidry, if you're listening, I'd love to sit down and pick your brain over lunch.

Nickel Defense Generally:
As I've stated in other posts, the 425 is a sectional, no-huddle defense, with a lot of moving parts turning it into a bit of an amorphous blob. It can be a 44, 43, 42, 33, 52, Bear, etc. all in the same personnel grouping. This is is not necessarily unique to the 425--but I would argue this system provides the most flexibility today based on the current state of CFB. I am not a proponent of 33 based nickel defenses, which is the subject of another topic of conversation.

Generally, when sending base 4 man pressure, the front's responsibilities are completely independent of the secondary's. Taking it a step further, the secondary can feature split field coverage, meaning the one half of the secondary's responsibilities are independent of the other half's responsibilities. Everything is taught sectionally. One position group would have to learn as little of 8-15 terms/concepts.

For example, the below illustrations generally outline the concept of split field coverage. The free safety calls the passing strength "read side" based on formation, personnel and ball placement. The "away side" defaults as the weak side. The assignments are independent of each other, unless the call is for a mirrored coverage (cov1, cov3). Each yellow box functions independent of each other.


View attachment 258551

Below is an example of TCU's base coverage being played to the "read side", and man coverage being played to the "away side". *OJO... Their use of the term "cover 2" actually means "cover 2-invert". A whole thread can be made about this distinction.*

View attachment 258552

The play call complexity lands on the coach, where it is usually relayed to the defense in sentence format. In some occasions, two coaches are making the play call: the front, stunts and blitzes are handled by one coach and the coverage call is handled by another coach. Each position group looks for their key term(s) and they execute their key term(s). Complex for the coach, simple for the players. This is a sample call sentence, which can be numerated on a call card or individually signaled:

Blast Tite (g) toro; Read 2/Blue

Blast=9 tech for strong side end
Tite=strength is called toward TE
Toro=DT movement towards the strength
(g)= 2i tech for nose tackle
Read 2=read side plays Cov2 invert
/Blue=away side plays quarters

Here is a sample card used by the coach and players. It provides a good summary of front/movement terms:

View attachment 258550

'T' words represent movement towards the front strength
'A' words represent movement away from the front strength
Bullets are blitzes involving both linebackers
Dogs bring one linebacker and one safety
Smokes bring the strong safety and weak safety

The strength can be called based on whatever you want:
Left/Right
Field/Boundary
Tite/Split
Passing strength/weakness
Offset back
Fullback
Wing
A specific player
Whatever you want!

Alignment--Where Patterson and Guidry Meet:
[BGCOLOR=initial]I can't stress enough the importance of proper alignment and teaching your guys to do so quickly and with confidence. The latter of what I said gets addressed with the robust language system I touched upon above and repetition/experience. Several posts could be made about proper defensive back, linebacker and defensive lineman alignment. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial][BGCOLOR=initial]This post focuses on the versatility of Guidry's system and his maximizing of nickel personnel in today's CFB. Regarding the remainder of this post, it is foundational to understand that the hash marks in CFB are similar to high school in that they are at least double the width of the NFL. The wide sides of the field are more wide and the short sides of the field are more short. In my opinion, Guidry takes advantage of this. See the two illustrations below: [/BGCOLOR][/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258563[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258565[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Regarding alignment, for purposes of this post, we will discuss the first step of alignment rules or "pre-alignment" based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash mark. As discussed in past [/BGCOLOR][BGCOLOR=initial]posts, the nickel based systems feature a "five spoke" secondary. Those five spokes are (from field to boundary): field corner, strong/field safety (Star or Nickel or Sam), free safety, weak/boundary safety, and boundary corner]. Every position pre-aligns based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Generally, the strong safety (Star or Nickel or Sam) is always inverted; the free safety is always deep; and the weak safety does both (but always to the short side of the field). See below:[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258559[/BGCOLOR]
The diagram above shows how easily the secondary shell can change without ever losing structural integrity. Generally speaking, the diagram above shows all alignment possibilities for each of the safety positions--not very much. Again, Patterson refers to this as the "five-spoke" secondary because of its ability to easily shift or rotate, while keeping its structural integrity.

From what I gather, Guidry runs the "five-spoke" concept at times. He also runs a good amount of mirrored coverages, which break this rule. I have seen a healthy amount of man-free, which would flip the strong safety/nickel to the boundary from time to time. However, even when Guidry runs man-free, his front appears to be operating independently of the the coverage.

Guidry takes the "five-spoke" concept and applies it to the front. It seems Guidry plays with the following pre-alignment rules:

Field Corner
Field Safety (Nickel/Star/Sam)
Free Safety (rolls to strength)
[BGCOLOR=initial]Boundary Safety[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Boundary Corner[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Field Defensive End[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Defensive Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)[/BGCOLOR]
Nose Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)
Boundary Defensive End

Strong Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)
Weak Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)

See the illustration below for an example where Guidry uses an odd front using base nickel personnel. Because of these alignment rules, Guidry is able to create multiple levels of hybrid positions:

View attachment 258576


(From boundary to field)
#2, #20, #5, [?CB]
#51
#12, #81, #99, #3, #31 (LB)


At first glance, we see a bear or 50 front--it's obviously not an even look by any means. This the the perfect example of Guidry manipulating the front to drum up "pressure" and keeping the secondary largely unmolested. The play-call involved the inside backer (#31) bringing pressure of the field edge, while the boundary defensive end (#12) added to the coverage scheme. Obviously, the result of this play was a first down for TAMU, but it created pressure without having to bring an extra guy.

What can we learn from this illustration and our play after 4 games:
1. The front is virtually always pre-aligned in a position to drop 8.

2. We have multiple hybrid positions on display and being developed:
-a. boundary defensive end: athleticism of guys like N. Kelly and J. Harvey can be used create enough doubt when disguising pressure out of an odd front. They can play coverage in a condensed field. It allows our bigger guys like Mesidor and Bain to play to their strengths.
-b. boundary safety: this is the do everything position. It is tailor made for someone like James Williams. He can play deep on a condensed hash, he can play off the edge in underneath coverage, or he can come play in the box in a bear front.
-c. field safety (Star/Nickel): this is the hybrid Sam/Nickel position. A whole post can be made about this position. So many people can play it--it is more about mentality than anything else. Preferrable you want a twitchy corner with good ball skills, that is tough as nails.
-d. weak inside linebacker (need to evaluate this more): I need to evaluate this more, but I suspect Guidry wants a true Mike backer (#51), but this position might be getting developed into someone instinctual enough the fill a B gap and cutback lanes, but also skilled enough to come off the edge. I'm not sure yet, but it seems Guidry really likes using bear fronts--and this position would be the extra edge player.
3. Because of 2, we are able to play multiple fronts, allowing us to put our players in the best position to succeed.

Multiplicity, but simplicity

...ok I'm tired of writing. Let's elaborate on these topics in the discussion. See you tonight, @DMoney @Peter Ariz

My post:

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standing ovation GIF by BET Awards

Good ****, mane.
 
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Great point on safeties being experienced. I’ve posted this since KK has been out. The secondary hasn’t looked the same with plenty of busts. There’s also a reason why I wouldn’t expect some of the younger guys to play as much going forward. It’s not complicated but you MUST be on the same page as the other ten guys or a catastrophe will happen and fast. Some of the younger guys just aren’t picking things up.

If we loose our starting safeties next year there‘ll be a lot of growing pains.
I think that's why losing out on Andre Sam hurt. I didn't understand or know why he was so important to Guidry's system until i saw the scheme. It all makes more sense now why we wanted him.
 
Can someone explain to this novice why the more athletic player line up on the boundary side. It seems that with more ground to cover they should be on the field?
 


Foreword:
Some of you know me from many, many years back where I would create the occasional instructional post on defensive football. I don't want to go on too much about my resume, but I can say I have some good coaching or playing experience with the following systems: Gary Patterson 425; Bud Foster 43 over; Charlie Strong 43 under; 34 2-gap and slant. The bulk of my training and experience is in what one would call a traditional 425. Respectfully, I feel somewhat qualified to share my ideas and knowledge with respect to the same.

DISCLAIMER FOR THE ENSUING DISCUSSION:
*The bulk of this discussion relates to base defense--any type of blitz pressure involves a different conversation (which we can have)*

*Be aware of language barriers--you and others may be saying the same thing, but using different words. Don't play a word game with someone*
*I don't know what happens behind closed doors in Guidry's meeting rooms--thus, I can only present my past experiences and in-game observations*

Introduction:
There is a lot to talk about--and I want to start with the basics.

Coach Guidry and Coach Patterson (imo the father of the 425) share a lot of similarities in temperament, philosophy and defensive system (aka "skeem"). It's my opinion that Coach Guidry's system is a natural progression from prior iterations of the 425. FWIW, Guidry might even refer to his system as a 43. Regardless, through 4 games, based on what I can see, we are functioning like a 425. I want to talk about nickel based defense generally and what I can glean from Guidry's system. Coach Guidry, if you're listening, I'd love to sit down and pick your brain over lunch.

Nickel Defense Generally:
As I've stated in other posts, the 425 is a sectional, no-huddle defense, with a lot of moving parts turning it into a bit of an amorphous blob. It can be a 44, 43, 42, 33, 52, Bear, etc. all in the same personnel grouping. This is is not necessarily unique to the 425--but I would argue this system provides the most flexibility today based on the current state of CFB. I am not a proponent of 33 based nickel defenses, which is the subject of another topic of conversation.

Generally, when sending base 4 man pressure, the front's responsibilities are completely independent of the secondary's. Taking it a step further, the secondary can feature split field coverage, meaning the one half of the secondary's responsibilities are independent of the other half's responsibilities. Everything is taught sectionally. One position group would have to learn as little of 8-15 terms/concepts.

For example, the below illustrations generally outline the concept of split field coverage. The free safety calls the passing strength "read side" based on formation, personnel and ball placement. The "away side" defaults as the weak side. The assignments are independent of each other, unless the call is for a mirrored coverage (cov1, cov3). Each yellow box functions independent of each other.


View attachment 258551

Below is an example of TCU's base coverage being played to the "read side", and man coverage being played to the "away side". *OJO... Their use of the term "cover 2" actually means "cover 2-invert". A whole thread can be made about this distinction.*

View attachment 258552

The play call complexity lands on the coach, where it is usually relayed to the defense in sentence format. In some occasions, two coaches are making the play call: the front, stunts and blitzes are handled by one coach and the coverage call is handled by another coach. Each position group looks for their key term(s) and they execute their key term(s). Complex for the coach, simple for the players. This is a sample call sentence, which can be numerated on a call card or individually signaled:

Blast Tite (g) toro; Read 2/Blue

Blast=9 tech for strong side end
Tite=strength is called toward TE
Toro=DT movement towards the strength
(g)= 2i tech for nose tackle
Read 2=read side plays Cov2 invert
/Blue=away side plays quarters

Here is a sample card used by the coach and players. It provides a good summary of front/movement terms:

View attachment 258550

'T' words represent movement towards the front strength
'A' words represent movement away from the front strength
Bullets are blitzes involving both linebackers
Dogs bring one linebacker and one safety
Smokes bring the strong safety and weak safety

The strength can be called based on whatever you want:
Left/Right
Field/Boundary
Tite/Split
Passing strength/weakness
Offset back
Fullback
Wing
A specific player
Whatever you want!

Alignment--Where Patterson and Guidry Meet:
[BGCOLOR=initial]I can't stress enough the importance of proper alignment and teaching your guys to do so quickly and with confidence. The latter of what I said gets addressed with the robust language system I touched upon above and repetition/experience. Several posts could be made about proper defensive back, linebacker and defensive lineman alignment. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial][BGCOLOR=initial]This post focuses on the versatility of Guidry's system and his maximizing of nickel personnel in today's CFB. Regarding the remainder of this post, it is foundational to understand that the hash marks in CFB are similar to high school in that they are at least double the width of the NFL. The wide sides of the field are more wide and the short sides of the field are more short. In my opinion, Guidry takes advantage of this. See the two illustrations below: [/BGCOLOR][/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258563[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258565[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Regarding alignment, for purposes of this post, we will discuss the first step of alignment rules or "pre-alignment" based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash mark. As discussed in past [/BGCOLOR][BGCOLOR=initial]posts, the nickel based systems feature a "five spoke" secondary. Those five spokes are (from field to boundary): field corner, strong/field safety (Star or Nickel or Sam), free safety, weak/boundary safety, and boundary corner]. Every position pre-aligns based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Generally, the strong safety (Star or Nickel or Sam) is always inverted; the free safety is always deep; and the weak safety does both (but always to the short side of the field). See below:[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]View attachment 258559[/BGCOLOR]
The diagram above shows how easily the secondary shell can change without ever losing structural integrity. Generally speaking, the diagram above shows all alignment possibilities for each of the safety positions--not very much. Again, Patterson refers to this as the "five-spoke" secondary because of its ability to easily shift or rotate, while keeping its structural integrity.

From what I gather, Guidry runs the "five-spoke" concept at times. He also runs a good amount of mirrored coverages, which break this rule. I have seen a healthy amount of man-free, which would flip the strong safety/nickel to the boundary from time to time. However, even when Guidry runs man-free, his front appears to be operating independently of the the coverage.

Guidry takes the "five-spoke" concept and applies it to the front. It seems Guidry plays with the following pre-alignment rules:

Field Corner
Field Safety (Nickel/Star/Sam)
Free Safety (rolls to strength)
[BGCOLOR=initial]Boundary Safety[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Boundary Corner[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Field Defensive End[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Defensive Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)[/BGCOLOR]
Nose Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)
Boundary Defensive End

Strong Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)
Weak Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)

See the illustration below for an example where Guidry uses an odd front using base nickel personnel. Because of these alignment rules, Guidry is able to create multiple levels of hybrid positions:

View attachment 258576


(From boundary to field)
#2, #20, #5, [?CB]
#51
#12, #81, #99, #3, #31 (LB)


At first glance, we see a bear or 50 front--it's obviously not an even look by any means. This the the perfect example of Guidry manipulating the front to drum up "pressure" and keeping the secondary largely unmolested. The play-call involved the inside backer (#31) bringing pressure of the field edge, while the boundary defensive end (#12) added to the coverage scheme. Obviously, the result of this play was a first down for TAMU, but it created pressure without having to bring an extra guy.

What can we learn from this illustration and our play after 4 games:
1. The front is virtually always pre-aligned in a position to drop 8.

2. We have multiple hybrid positions on display and being developed:
-a. boundary defensive end: athleticism of guys like N. Kelly and J. Harvey can be used create enough doubt when disguising pressure out of an odd front. They can play coverage in a condensed field. It allows our bigger guys like Mesidor and Bain to play to their strengths.
-b. boundary safety: this is the do everything position. It is tailor made for someone like James Williams. He can play deep on a condensed hash, he can play off the edge in underneath coverage, or he can come play in the box in a bear front.
-c. field safety (Star/Nickel): this is the hybrid Sam/Nickel position. A whole post can be made about this position. So many people can play it--it is more about mentality than anything else. Preferrable you want a twitchy corner with good ball skills, that is tough as nails.
-d. weak inside linebacker (need to evaluate this more): I need to evaluate this more, but I suspect Guidry wants a true Mike backer (#51), but this position might be getting developed into someone instinctual enough the fill a B gap and cutback lanes, but also skilled enough to come off the edge. I'm not sure yet, but it seems Guidry really likes using bear fronts--and this position would be the extra edge player.
3. Because of 2, we are able to play multiple fronts, allowing us to put our players in the best position to succeed.

Multiplicity, but simplicity

...ok I'm tired of writing. Let's elaborate on these topics in the discussion. See you tonight, @DMoney @Peter Ariz

My post:

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Coach,

It’s been along time for in skull studies in the mid late 70’s with just a blackboard and a Super 8 projector as a player.
You impress me very much , I been a player than runs what you ( coach ) designs till zero thinking.

I see things as a former player but aren’t smart enough to put it to this beauty.
Relying on field presence and flow .

Excellent Coach

GOCANES
 
I presume you're talking about a 1 back 2x2 look outside zone to the boundary.

It depends on the coverage to determine who would be the primary D gap defender--it's probably the weak safety.

Here is a quarters shell against double flanker (2x2 with 2 te). TCU plays this with a 6 technique at boundary (right side of photo) DE. The 6 is still a C gap defender, but is also trying to hold his ground and cover up that primary D gap defender from a free release TE. The goal is to keep the edge stout and, at worst, funnel the back to the filling D gap defender (probably the weak safety) and the flowing linebackers. At best, the 6 Tech blows up the TE and forces a cutback.

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Against 2x2 with 2 WR to the boundary, its actually pretty easy to stop. Unless the slot cracks on the DE, the DE can cut off the RB in the C gap and force a cutback. If not, the weak safety is filling from a quarter shell, or he is already down there in a 1 high look like cover 1 or 3 or Bronco (man).
I feel like its best defended and the running lane would close if that safety fills similar to Jaden Davis in the Texas A&M game. Proper presnap alignment based upon good film review would prevent that hole Rch referenced. Could be wrong tho
 
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Can someone explain to this novice why the more athletic player line up on the boundary side. It seems that with more ground to cover they should be on the field?
The concept is relative athleticism.

You’re picking the more athletic DE to play in coverage sometimes to the condensed boundary, like an outside linebacker. The bigger, more traditional DEs will always play their DE role.

You’re picking the larger, more physical “box” Safety to play deep sometimes on a condensed boundary, while regularly coming down into the box as a primary run defender. This is opposed to the more traditional center fielder who will be in that role more consistently.

You’re picking a tough, instinctive defensive back to play Nickel/Star in place of a Sam linebacker.

It’s a matter of relative athleticism and creating more situations for your guys to succeed. I have two DEs. One is more athletic than the other and I think it’s good for my team success to drop one of them into coverage situationally. Then I’m going to create a system that always picks the best guy for that job.

The same analysis goes for the boundary safety. I have two safeties that can play deep on any given play. One is bigger and more physical, but not as good in coverage. The other is more of a center fielder. I’m going to create a system where I can have my bigger guy play deep on a smaller part of the field so he can have a better chance of success.
 
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Ive been thinking about this portion of the post and trying to connect it to who’s who for our current roster and for our recruiting to see who fits where just to see the vision for some of the guys.

For example with our the boundary defensive end i see Lightfoot fitting,

-Boundary safety is james like u said i can see isaiah thomas fitting this role
-Field safety(Star/nickel), mentality wise i think it fits zaquan but i can also see him in the boundary safety mold. Also think jaden davis can be good here for what we have currently
-weak ilb, when u mentioned this position possibly having some edge responsibilities too I thought of malik bryant because of him playing alot of edge in high school, i also think bobby washington can end up here too im high on his potential as an edge/ilb.

Just some thoughts, also wanted to ask if u haven’t already said who is currently playing these hybrid positions now for us or who u think should be
 
Love the breakdown. Thanks for this.

Specifically, regarding terminology, my favorite from the entire read is your use of the phrase "OJO"... well done sir.
 
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Foreword:
Some of you know me from many, many years back where I would create the occasional instructional post on defensive football. I don't want to go on too much about my resume, but I can say I have some good coaching or playing experience with the following systems: Gary Patterson 425; Bud Foster 43 over; Charlie Strong 43 under; 34 2-gap and slant. The bulk of my training and experience is in what one would call a traditional 425. Respectfully, I feel somewhat qualified to share my ideas and knowledge with respect to the same.

DISCLAIMER FOR THE ENSUING DISCUSSION:
*The bulk of this discussion relates to base defense--any type of blitz pressure involves a different conversation (which we can have)*

*Be aware of language barriers--you and others may be saying the same thing, but using different words. Don't play a word game with someone*
*I don't know what happens behind closed doors in Guidry's meeting rooms--thus, I can only present my past experiences and in-game observations*

Introduction:
There is a lot to talk about--and I want to start with the basics.

Coach Guidry and Coach Patterson (imo the father of the 425) share a lot of similarities in temperament, philosophy and defensive system (aka "skeem"). It's my opinion that Coach Guidry's system is a natural progression from prior iterations of the 425. FWIW, Guidry might even refer to his system as a 43. Regardless, through 4 games, based on what I can see, we are functioning like a 425. I want to talk about nickel based defense generally and what I can glean from Guidry's system. Coach Guidry, if you're listening, I'd love to sit down and pick your brain over lunch.

Nickel Defense Generally:
As I've stated in other posts, the 425 is a sectional, no-huddle defense, with a lot of moving parts turning it into a bit of an amorphous blob. It can be a 44, 43, 42, 33, 52, Bear, etc. all in the same personnel grouping. This is is not necessarily unique to the 425--but I would argue this system provides the most flexibility today based on the current state of CFB. I am not a proponent of 33 based nickel defenses, which is the subject of another topic of conversation.

Generally, when sending base 4 man pressure, the front's responsibilities are completely independent of the secondary's. Taking it a step further, the secondary can feature split field coverage, meaning the one half of the secondary's responsibilities are independent of the other half's responsibilities. Everything is taught sectionally. One position group would have to learn as little of 8-15 terms/concepts.

For example, the below illustrations generally outline the concept of split field coverage. The free safety calls the passing strength "read side" based on formation, personnel and ball placement. The "away side" defaults as the weak side. The assignments are independent of each other, unless the call is for a mirrored coverage (cov1, cov3). Each yellow box functions independent of each other.


View attachment 258551

Below is an example of TCU's base coverage being played to the "read side", and man coverage being played to the "away side". *OJO... Their use of the term "cover 2" actually means "cover 2-invert". A whole thread can be made about this distinction.*

View attachment 258552

The play call complexity lands on the coach, where it is usually relayed to the defense in sentence format. In some occasions, two coaches are making the play call: the front, stunts and blitzes are handled by one coach and the coverage call is handled by another coach. Each position group looks for their key term(s) and they execute their key term(s). Complex for the coach, simple for the players. This is a sample call sentence, which can be numerated on a call card or individually signaled:

Blast Tite (g) toro; Read 2/Blue

Blast=9 tech for strong side end
Tite=strength is called toward TE
Toro=DT movement towards the strength
(g)= 2i tech for nose tackle
Read 2=read side plays Cov2 invert
/Blue=away side plays quarters

Here is a sample card used by the coach and players. It provides a good summary of front/movement terms:

View attachment 258550

'T' words represent movement towards the front strength
'A' words represent movement away from the front strength
Bullets are blitzes involving both linebackers
Dogs bring one linebacker and one safety
Smokes bring the strong safety and weak safety

The strength can be called based on whatever you want:
Left/Right
Field/Boundary
Tite/Split
Passing strength/weakness
Offset back
Fullback
Wing
A specific player
Whatever you want!

Alignment--Where Patterson and Guidry Meet:
[BGCOLOR=initial]I can't stress enough the importance of proper alignment and teaching your guys to do so quickly and with confidence. The latter of what I said gets addressed with the robust language system I touched upon above and repetition/experience. Several posts could be made about proper defensive back, linebacker and defensive lineman alignment. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial][BGCOLOR=initial]This post focuses on the versatility of Guidry's system and his maximizing of nickel personnel in today's CFB. Regarding the remainder of this post, it is foundational to understand that the hash marks in CFB are similar to high school in that they are at least double the width of the NFL. The wide sides of the field are more wide and the short sides of the field are more short. In my opinion, Guidry takes advantage of this. See the two illustrations below: [/BGCOLOR][/BGCOLOR]

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[BGCOLOR=initial]Regarding alignment, for purposes of this post, we will discuss the first step of alignment rules or "pre-alignment" based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash mark. As discussed in past [/BGCOLOR][BGCOLOR=initial]posts, the nickel based systems feature a "five spoke" secondary. Those five spokes are (from field to boundary): field corner, strong/field safety (Star or Nickel or Sam), free safety, weak/boundary safety, and boundary corner]. Every position pre-aligns based on placement of the ball in relation to the hash. [/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Generally, the strong safety (Star or Nickel or Sam) is always inverted; the free safety is always deep; and the weak safety does both (but always to the short side of the field). See below:[/BGCOLOR]
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The diagram above shows how easily the secondary shell can change without ever losing structural integrity. Generally speaking, the diagram above shows all alignment possibilities for each of the safety positions--not very much. Again, Patterson refers to this as the "five-spoke" secondary because of its ability to easily shift or rotate, while keeping its structural integrity.

From what I gather, Guidry runs the "five-spoke" concept at times. He also runs a good amount of mirrored coverages, which break this rule. I have seen a healthy amount of man-free, which would flip the strong safety/nickel to the boundary from time to time. However, even when Guidry runs man-free, his front appears to be operating independently of the the coverage.

Guidry takes the "five-spoke" concept and applies it to the front. It seems Guidry plays with the following pre-alignment rules:

Field Corner
Field Safety (Nickel/Star/Sam)
Free Safety (rolls to strength)
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[BGCOLOR=initial]Boundary Corner[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]Field Defensive End[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Defensive Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)[/BGCOLOR]
Nose Tackle (flip-flop's on strength call)
Boundary Defensive End

Strong Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)
Weak Inside Linebacker (flip-flop's on strength call)

See the illustration below for an example where Guidry uses an odd front using base nickel personnel. Because of these alignment rules, Guidry is able to create multiple levels of hybrid positions:

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(From boundary to field)
#2, #20, #5, [?CB]
#51
#12, #81, #99, #3, #31 (LB)


At first glance, we see a bear or 50 front--it's obviously not an even look by any means. This the the perfect example of Guidry manipulating the front to drum up "pressure" and keeping the secondary largely unmolested. The play-call involved the inside backer (#31) bringing pressure of the field edge, while the boundary defensive end (#12) added to the coverage scheme. Obviously, the result of this play was a first down for TAMU, but it created pressure without having to bring an extra guy.

What can we learn from this illustration and our play after 4 games:
1. The front is virtually always pre-aligned in a position to drop 8.

2. We have multiple hybrid positions on display and being developed:
-a. boundary defensive end: athleticism of guys like N. Kelly and J. Harvey can be used create enough doubt when disguising pressure out of an odd front. They can play coverage in a condensed field. It allows our bigger guys like Mesidor and Bain to play to their strengths.
-b. boundary safety: this is the do everything position. It is tailor made for someone like James Williams. He can play deep on a condensed hash, he can play off the edge in underneath coverage, or he can come play in the box in a bear front.
-c. field safety (Star/Nickel): this is the hybrid Sam/Nickel position. A whole post can be made about this position. So many people can play it--it is more about mentality than anything else. Preferrable you want a twitchy corner with good ball skills, that is tough as nails.
-d. weak inside linebacker (need to evaluate this more): I need to evaluate this more, but I suspect Guidry wants a true Mike backer (#51), but this position might be getting developed into someone instinctual enough the fill a B gap and cutback lanes, but also skilled enough to come off the edge. I'm not sure yet, but it seems Guidry really likes using bear fronts--and this position would be the extra edge player.
3. Because of 2, we are able to play multiple fronts, allowing us to put our players in the best position to succeed.

Multiplicity, but simplicity

...ok I'm tired of writing. Let's elaborate on these topics in the discussion. See you tonight, @DMoney @Peter Ariz

My post:

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An entire coaching course for free. Well done and thanks! Go Canes 🏈
 
Great. I’m the least informed porster here about the inner workings of football. All I now need is someone to break down the offensive side to this to completely ***** up my love for the game! Of course I kid…this does open my eyes more when I’m watching the game next time. Thanks OP!
 
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Ive been thinking about this portion of the post and trying to connect it to who’s who for our current roster and for our recruiting to see who fits where just to see the vision for some of the guys.

For example with our the boundary defensive end i see Lightfoot fitting,

-Boundary safety is james like u said i can see isaiah thomas fitting this role
-Field safety(Star/nickel), mentality wise i think it fits zaquan but i can also see him in the boundary safety mold. Also think jaden davis can be good here for what we have currently
-weak ilb, when u mentioned this position possibly having some edge responsibilities too I thought of malik bryant because of him playing alot of edge in high school, i also think bobby washington can end up here too im high on his potential as an edge/ilb.

Just some thoughts, also wanted to ask if u haven’t already said who is currently playing these hybrid positions now for us or who u think should be
This is a fun topic. I need to watch more film to develop better opinions. Off the top of my head, I can see the following from our 2023 commits:

Boundary Safety:
- Z. Patterson
- I. Thomas
Field Safety (Star):
- Z. Patterson (depending on his coverage abilities)
Boundary End:
- M. Lightfoot
- E. Rudolph
Weak ILB:
- Cam Pruitt
 
@WestEndzone thank you for this analysis. I loved reading your old content before you embraced the troll lifestyle 😂 glad to see you kick the tires again.

Maybe you and @Coach Macho can comment. When watching the replay of miami(oh) and tamu games, i saw more instances of the back 7 matching routes. Linebackers were getting to depth and snapping their head to the nearest threat coming into their zone and carrying them. In contrast, i was there in person for the temple game and saw so much spot dropping, defending open grass, etc and it was a head scratcher. Any idea why there was a shift “backwards” to a “less effective” (in my opinion) style of defending?
 
@WestEndzone thank you for this analysis. I loved reading your old content before you embraced the troll lifestyle 😂 glad to see you kick the tires again.

Maybe you and @Coach Macho can comment. When watching the replay of miami(oh) and tamu games, i saw more instances of the back 7 matching routes. Linebackers were getting to depth and snapping their head to the nearest threat coming into their zone and carrying them. In contrast, i was there in person for the temple game and saw so much spot dropping, defending open grass, etc and it was a head scratcher. Any idea why there was a shift “backwards” to a “less effective” (in my opinion) style of defending?
I need to look at the film.

But we dropped 8 a good amount in that game. I suppose the argument could be made that you can spot drop in max coverage and be effective. Assuming you’re running 3 deep defenders, the 5 underneath can use space to cover since the middle hole guy won’t need to run down field like in a Tampa type 5 underneath look.
 
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