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How much would we be screaming had we had the same lead at halftime , came out throwing and had numerous 3 and outs and giving their offense many chances instead of giving the duke the ball and putting it on him?
I'm not defending the staff.
But, we'd all be going nuts if we didn't run duke 20 times and lost the game b/c we came out throwing.
 
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If Golden would have simply let Coley call the offense in the 2nd without shaking in his boots we would have been fine. How about come out swinging like you were already doing since it was working, mixing it up with the run and pass in different ways until FSU does something about it?

Total Head Coaching Choke Job by Al Golden and if you cant see that, then you must be blind.
 
No doubt. Running was the right thing to do because FSU came out with 2 safeties deep playing the pass. We just needed to be a little more crisp in the passing game and eliminate the mental errors. If you look at our second half drives we moved the ball on a number of them. We just fizzled out with a fumble, a penalty, a tipped pass, missed an open wr. A little better execution and better calls in the passing game from Coley and we could have put up some points.
 
If Golden would have simply let Coley call the offense in the 2nd without shaking in his boots we would have been fine. How about come out swinging like you were already doing since it was working, mixing it up with the run and pass in different ways until FSU does something about it?

Total Head Coaching Choke Job by Al Golden and if you cant see that, then you must be blind.

FSU did do something about it. They completely changed their defense in the second half.
 
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The point was, if duke ended the game with 15 carries and 75 yards and we had come out w little success throwing the ball and had several 3 and outs, we'd have been screaming why we didn't ride duke the 2nd half and chew up time and yards.
Not defending anyone, just making a point.
 
I agree with this and said it in another thread. A huge part of the fact that we did as well in this game was the fact that we DID generate first downs, drive the ball, and eat up the clock, keeping Winston and their offense off the field. People can ***** all the want about it, but the fact remains that its an important part of the strategy to winning a football game. You have to control the clock and play to your strengths. FSU's strength was Winston and their offense. We kept them off the field most of the game. Our problem was that we did not convert when we needed to. Special teams blunders, and just plays that we flat out blew. Berrios dropped TD. Dobard fumble. Duke getting hurt caused pass protection to really suffer and allowed a lot of pressure on Kaaya at the worst possible time. And the fact that Kaaya is a true Frosh, was confused and struggled some when FSU started really changing things up defensively, and its clear he and Coley just do not have an effective 2 minute offense ready to roll.

There are plenty of criticisms of the coaching, but I think the "conservative 2nd half" stuff is WAY overblown. Yes the play calling was more predictable, but FSU adjusted its defense, and we were taking what they gave. If Duke stays healthy and we keep converting 1st downs, we eat up the clock, and probably score once more and put that game away. When he went down, FSU knew that we weren't going to drive down the field on Yearby's back. Worse, they knew that Yearby would be a liability in pass protection, so they pinned their ears back and came after Kaaya hard. That hurt us.

We took some shots down field. We weren't in a "shell". Yes it was more conservative, but if we execute on a few key plays there, we win that game, and Coley's play calling would have been "brilliant" by eating up the clock, wearing down FSU's defense, and keeping Winston off the field.
 
If Golden would have simply let Coley call the offense in the 2nd without shaking in his boots we would have been fine. How about come out swinging like you were already doing since it was working, mixing it up with the run and pass in different ways until FSU does something about it?

Total Head Coaching Choke Job by Al Golden and if you cant see that, then you must be blind.

FSU did do something about it. They completely changed their defense in the second half.

yes they did but we dont know if that was going to stop the multiple ways we were beating them or not because we came out and changed up our offensive gameplan before the 3rd quarter even started.
 
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The dobard fumble and the berrios drop. If dobard doesn't fumble, we probably score again then we just kill the clock running the ball.
 
The point was, if duke ended the game with 15 carries and 75 yards and we had come out w little success throwing the ball and had several 3 and outs, we'd have been screaming why we didn't ride duke the 2nd half and chew up time and yards.
Not defending anyone, just making a point.

look riding Duke wasnt the problem, it was the Louisville-esque playcalling. You can still lean more on Duke and still stay true to whats actually working in the game on that given Saturday.

Duke wasnt the problem as i said, Kaaya was... he was in a good comfort zone and rhythm with what we were doing. Once the coaches decided to reel him in, he went into some sort of shell and basically became more of a hindrance then the solution in the 2nd half. Completely negated everything that was great about his 1st half performance.

That's on the Coaches
 
Blah blah blah, they didn't do what they needed to win the game. All this other crap is hyperbolic **** to cover up Gordo's inadequacies as a HC.

The noles adjusted and we didn't. To win this game we had to keep the pedal to the floor. They tried to protect the lead and control the clock.

Has any team done that this year against the Noles, yeah I didn't think so...
 
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How much taller would all of us be if we grew two inches?

See how dumb that ******* question is? Stop with the "what if's" and the "next year" bull****. We are a mediocre team with championship talent. Nuff said!
**** AG
 
The point was, if duke ended the game with 15 carries and 75 yards and we had come out w little success throwing the ball and had several 3 and outs, we'd have been screaming why we didn't ride duke the 2nd half and chew up time and yards.
Not defending anyone, just making a point.

look riding Duke wasnt the problem, it was the Louisville-esque playcalling. You can still lean more on Duke and still stay true to whats actually working in the game on that given Saturday.

Duke wasnt the problem as i said, Kaaya was... he was in a good comfort zone and rhythm with what we were doing. Once the coaches decided to reel him in, he went into some sort of shell and basically became more of a hindrance then the solution in the 2nd half. Completely negated everything that was great about his 1st half performance.

That's on the Coaches

Noles changed up their D, Coley tried adjusting. We mixed it up in second half. Kaaya needed to adjust too. He missed a few throws. We were pushing to keep putting points on them in second half. But s#it happens: Dobard fumbles. Duke cramps up. Oh and their O-Line dominated line of scrimmage in second half. They picked up all of our blitzes including their **** RBs chop blocking our rushers (See when Pender took out Chick). If that's too much information for you, then go back inside your anti Golden shell and don't come out until 2015 'cause that talk is getting old.
 
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The point was, if duke ended the game with 15 carries and 75 yards and we had come out w little success throwing the ball and had several 3 and outs, we'd have been screaming why we didn't ride duke the 2nd half and chew up time and yards.
Not defending anyone, just making a point.

look riding Duke wasnt the problem, it was the Louisville-esque playcalling. You can still lean more on Duke and still stay true to whats actually working in the game on that given Saturday.

Duke wasnt the problem as i said, Kaaya was... he was in a good comfort zone and rhythm with what we were doing. Once the coaches decided to reel him in, he went into some sort of shell and basically became more of a hindrance then the solution in the 2nd half. Completely negated everything that was great about his 1st half performance.

That's on the Coaches

Noles changed up their D, Coley tried adjusting. We mixed it up in second half. Kaaya needed to adjust too. He missed a few throws. We were pushing to keep putting points on them in second half. But s#it happens: Dobard fumbles. Duke cramps up. Oh and their O-Line dominated line of scrimmage in second half. They picked up all of our blitzes including their **** RBs chop blocking our rushers (See when Pender took out Chick). If that's too much information for you, then go back inside your anti Golden shell and don't come out until 2015 'cause that talk is getting old.

Dude you are wasting your breath. The only "analysis" that is acceptable on these boards is "Golden sux and its all his fault". That's the answer to every football related question. Anyone with half a brain should understand what you just posted without even having to say it. FSU added a second safety and changed coverages. They adjusted their defense and Kaaya had a harder time adjusting to hit. He's still a true Frosh that will struggle trying to grasp when a team changes things up and starts masking coverages and throwing things at him he's not totally used to or knows well. That's where the first wheel came off the bus. Coley also tried to get the running game going, which was the right thing to do. Duke was getting good yardage and we were eating up the clock and getting first downs. We just didn't convert when we needed to. The down side to this though, was that it got Kaaya out of rythym. But had Duke stayed in the game, and we driven down and scored, Coley's playcalling would have looked "brilliant".

There were some definitely coaching mistakes we made. But Kaaya did **** well considering he was a true Frosh. You cant expect the kid to look like Peyton Manning for 4 quarters as a true frosh. Eventually defenses adjust, and you have to react to that. That, unfortunately, seems to be where Kaaya's youth is causing us problems. He's still not all the way there in seeing things when they start to evolve later in a game. It will come with time and experience.
 
I'm upset we lost because we had it, we were the better team for most of the night and blew it. What makes it even worse is we are now 6-4, if that had been just our second loss and had a chance at revenge in the ACCCG it would be much easier to take. But losing 4 games with this schedule is atrocious.
 
The point was, if duke ended the game with 15 carries and 75 yards and we had come out w little success throwing the ball and had several 3 and outs, we'd have been screaming why we didn't ride duke the 2nd half and chew up time and yards.
Not defending anyone, just making a point.

look riding Duke wasnt the problem, it was the Louisville-esque playcalling. You can still lean more on Duke and still stay true to whats actually working in the game on that given Saturday.

Duke wasnt the problem as i said, Kaaya was... he was in a good comfort zone and rhythm with what we were doing. Once the coaches decided to reel him in, he went into some sort of shell and basically became more of a hindrance then the solution in the 2nd half. Completely negated everything that was great about his 1st half performance.

That's on the Coaches

Noles changed up their D, Coley tried adjusting. We mixed it up in second half. Kaaya needed to adjust too. He missed a few throws. We were pushing to keep putting points on them in second half. But s#it happens: Dobard fumbles. Duke cramps up. Oh and their O-Line dominated line of scrimmage in second half. They picked up all of our blitzes including their **** RBs chop blocking our rushers (See when Pender took out Chick). If that's too much information for you, then go back inside your anti Golden shell and don't come out until 2015 'cause that talk is getting old.

Dude you are wasting your breath. The only "analysis" that is acceptable on these boards is "Golden sux and its all his fault". That's the answer to every football related question. Anyone with half a brain should understand what you just posted without even having to say it. FSU added a second safety and changed coverages. They adjusted their defense and Kaaya had a harder time adjusting to hit. He's still a true Frosh that will struggle trying to grasp when a team changes things up and starts masking coverages and throwing things at him he's not totally used to or knows well. That's where the first wheel came off the bus. Coley also tried to get the running game going, which was the right thing to do. Duke was getting good yardage and we were eating up the clock and getting first downs. We just didn't convert when we needed to. The down side to this though, was that it got Kaaya out of rythym. But had Duke stayed in the game, and we driven down and scored, Coley's playcalling would have looked "brilliant".

There were some definitely coaching mistakes we made. But Kaaya did **** well considering he was a true Frosh. You cant expect the kid to look like Peyton Manning for 4 quarters as a true frosh. Eventually defenses adjust, and you have to react to that. That, unfortunately, seems to be where Kaaya's youth is causing us problems. He's still not all the way there in seeing things when they start to evolve later in a game. It will come with time and experience.

Well reasoned...but you're going to get lambasted for this
 
this board astounds me. the team played well enough to win. a few guys made mistakes that cost us.. kaaya struggled in the second half. I love the kid but the moment might have been a little to much for him at this stage of his career. that's what my eyes saw. I am not going to blame the coaches for that.
 
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