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Golden Supporters: How do you explain this?

canecountry3 said:
Not sure what the purpose of this thread is in regards to Monday night. I suppose it is fun to look at a few pictures and criticize the scheme, but the reality is the defense had 4 sacks (equivalent to the total in the previous 4 games) gave up 336 total yards and Louisville averaged 3 yards per rush.

It's irrelevant now but everyone who was down on the defense was predicting 500+ yards because Petrino vs Doritos was no contest.

James Coley lost the game, coupled with some boneheaded mistakes from a few players.

The defense played well enough to win and that was the case only in about 4 games last year, none of them the losses Miami had.

The offense was atrocious.
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Even if all that is true, wouldn't these stills and this analysis suggest that we should do BETTER? Even if what you say is true, do these alignments make any more sense? I don't care if we gave up 50 yards all game, this dumb **** I'm seeing tells me it should have been 25.
 
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tokengator said:
terdferguson said:
WhatTheHell said:
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Clearly these 3 are forming a human triangle for various theorems in one of Donofrio's super secret geniuses only defensive scheme.
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THIS is the bull**** I railed about all last year and it continues. We're creating mismatches for the other team. Why do we not have a goalline/short yardage package on defense? It's mind blowing stupidity.
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That is a short yardage/goal line package but the alignment is ****ed up.


so the guys 7 yards back have to make a major move upfield to get any shot at cleaning up a run play...if there is playaction these two guys are ****ed.

Just zero room for error since these guys have to run hard and fast at the RB to have any chance of cleaning up the play if it is a handoff.

To give you a contrast:

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almost identical packages on both sides of the ball to the miami play. the contrast in the alignment is staggering.
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That D is way too aggressive looking, we don't allow that at the new U
 
DadeCountyFinest said:
How Many points did the defense surrender??????? Redzone and 3 down conversions is what killed us......if you gonna criticize be fair
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The end results ended up fine but we still gave up points and conversions that we could have made more difficult. **** happens and you call a bad play but doing things like leaving your base defense out against 4 wide or giving up easy short yardage conversions because you get outnumbered up front is plain dumb. The first TD was two easy completions to Rogers when McCord is lining up over him. Thats 7 points that might not of happened.
 
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canecountry3 said:
Not sure what the purpose of this thread is in regards to Monday night. I suppose it is fun to look at a few pictures and criticize the scheme, but the reality is the defense had 4 sacks (equivalent to the total in the previous 4 games) gave up 336 total yards and Louisville averaged 3 yards per rush.

It's irrelevant now but everyone who was down on the defense was predicting 500+ yards because Petrino vs Doritos was no contest.

James Coley lost the game, coupled with some boneheaded mistakes from a few players.

The defense played well enough to win and that was the case only in about 4 games last year, none of them the losses Miami had.

The offense was atrocious.
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Many including myself expected a better offense. Their offense was not that good. Their qb was garbage. Had we had a defensive coordinator worth a **** we would have brought more pressure. Everytime that ****** got hit he would fumble the ball. Seeing that, what does golden and Dorito do, they rush three and give him all day to throw. Just cause we made plays against an average offense doesn't mean the defense has made great strides. It's exactly the same as the UF game.
 
Ugh.. never will I give up on my canes, but these are tough times. This team looks like my 6 year old nephew playing madden. How can this be possible?
 
MiamiVice7 said:
canecountry3 said:
Not sure what the purpose of this thread is in regards to Monday night. I suppose it is fun to look at a few pictures and criticize the scheme, but the reality is the defense had 4 sacks (equivalent to the total in the previous 4 games) gave up 336 total yards and Louisville averaged 3 yards per rush.

It's irrelevant now but everyone who was down on the defense was predicting 500+ yards because Petrino vs Doritos was no contest.

James Coley lost the game, coupled with some boneheaded mistakes from a few players.

The defense played well enough to win and that was the case only in about 4 games last year, none of them the losses Miami had.

The offense was atrocious.
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Even if all that is true, wouldn't these stills and this analysis suggest that we should do BETTER? Even if what you say is true, do these alignments make any more sense? I don't care if we gave up 50 yards all game, this dumb **** I'm seeing tells me it should have been 25.
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Well nothing I wrote was untrue, that's for sure. I'm not sure I understand your logic. You would be ****ed if Miami have up 50 total yards because a LB lined up over a slot receiver on some random play? Okay.

It's easy to nit pick certain formations, but the big picture is really all that matters.

If someone told me Monday afternoon Miami would hold Petrino to less than 350 total yards, 3 offensive TDs, had 2 turnovers in the red zone, and Louisville would rush at 3 yards a clip, I'd have bet the house Miami would win.

Miami lost the game because of the offense, plain and simple. 250 total yards, 1/13 on third downs.... No team is winning with those numbers.

All I care about is Miami winning games. Miami did not win because of the offense. Coley, Kehoe, and Golden are to blame for that. Not Doritos.
 
also, the other guy is right. I only see 10 guys on the field. Maybe I am missing someone?
 
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AntwanJ306 said:
tokengator said:
also, the other guy is right. I only see 10 guys on the field. Maybe I am missing someone?
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Do you see all three guys by the ref in back?
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oh ****, i didn't see the guy being shielded by the ref.

Holy **** that makes this alignment all the more confusing. There is now 3 guys at least 7 yards away from the ball on a 3rd & 2. What the **** is going on over there?
 
rokulika said:
What's the deal with staying in base defense when the offense has 4 WRs on the field? Our experienced, talented DBs got all them teeth but no toothbrush.
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Stay the course. Stay tied together. Execute your assignment.

The deal is that it's what they've always done and what has been done for a while here. We now have sufficient talent, so it just makes it insanely frustrating.
 
tokengator said:
AntwanJ306 said:
tokengator said:
also, the other guy is right. I only see 10 guys on the field. Maybe I am missing someone?
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Do you see all three guys by the ref in back?
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oh ****, i didn't see the guy being shielded by the ref.

Holy **** that makes this alignment all the more confusing. There is now 3 guys at least 7 yards away from the ball on a 3rd & 2. What the **** is going on over there?
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Thing is, this stuff is almost routine with us. Like you said, it's puts the guys far back in a precarious spot from the jump.

The thing that has constantly baffled me is why we insist on playing our CBs and safeties so far away from the ball when we usually have the advantage over the other teams receivers in speed. Not sure why we play prevent in goal line situations.
 
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tokengator said:
AntwanJ306 said:
tokengator said:
also, the other guy is right. I only see 10 guys on the field. Maybe I am missing someone?
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Do you see all three guys by the ref in back?
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oh ****, i didn't see the guy being shielded by the ref.

Holy **** that makes this alignment all the more confusing. There is now 3 guys at least 7 yards away from the ball on a 3rd & 2. What the **** is going on over there?
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Don't hate. Obviously, you've never seen one of these put together with a ref. In a live game. On short conversion. Should have seen us 5 yards into the end zone last year against Duke.

 
looking at these defensive alignment is giving me the same "what in the ****" feeling i get when watching our offense the past 4 or 5 years.
 
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