Golden on the offensive line

[BigCaneAl]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

There are a ******* ton. Didn't you play LB in a slant-heavy defense?

Lol, too long ago, plus didn't game plan against it.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Yeah, you run right in to the hole left behind. That's the problem with slants, stunts, etc vs just having a defensive line that's big enough to control its gaps.

Not that I wouldn't take Easely though, that kid's one of the best 3 techniques I've ever seen at the college level.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Yeah, you run right in to the hole left behind. That's the problem with slants, stunts, etc vs just having a defensive line that's big enough to control its gaps.

Not that I wouldn't take Easely though, that kid's one of the best 3 techniques I've ever seen at the college level.

My concern is we didn't adjust, so why didn't we? I'm going to chalk it up to being ultra conservative and playing with a lead....but you better believe we will see that gameplan again and we have to be ready to adjust.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

No.

They may be comparable in the middle but there DEs aren't in the same league this year.

Just from seeing them vs Pitt, seems to me they have a different kind of athlete, and one I think we match up better against. We didn't really have an answer for Easley's speed but FSU doesn't have anyone like that.

**** I saw Eddie Goldman playing end for them, that dude is easily over 300 lbs and a true 2 gapper. They're going to attack us a different way.

 

[gcane44]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Not even close. We will handle fsu's DL.

Not saying you, but these same type of absolutes were mentioned prior to the UF game. All summer was told UF lost alot upfront to NFL and our guys would handle.

We proceed to get our head kicked in. Until proven on the field I will believe we will do good in pass pro but struggle to run against any Defense worth a dam. Have we ran on a good defense in 2 years??

FSU definitely has talent on the DL. But my observation from their depth chart and from the Pitt game was while their DL was very beefed up and had great DTs, the DEs weren't all that. They were to big to really pass rush or have the range on the edge like their nasty DE duo did last year. That's the BIG difference between FSU's and UF's DL this year - the speed and explosiveness. I think Duke can have some success hitting the edges against them. They seem to count on their athletic LBs to make up for this - and they def do have athletic LBs - but it simply doesn't seem as swarming as last year's D.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Yeah, you run right in to the hole left behind. That's the problem with slants, stunts, etc vs just having a defensive line that's big enough to control its gaps.

Not that I wouldn't take Easely though, that kid's one of the best 3 techniques I've ever seen at the college level.

My concern is we didn't adjust, so why didn't we? I'm going to chalk it up to being ultra conservative and playing with a lead....but you better believe we will see that gameplan again and we have to be ready to adjust.

We didn't really try to run between the tackles in the second half, as I recall. We kept trying to get the edge, and UF was bringing its safeties and corners in to run support.

Stephen Morris really had an opportunity to light them up, my question is why he didn't or why Golden/Coley didn't want to put the game in his hands. At the end of the day, though, we won, so I guess they were right to play it safe.

 

[motorcitycane]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Not even close. We will handle fsu's DL.

Not saying you, but these same type of absolutes were mentioned prior to the UF game. All summer was told UF lost alot upfront to NFL and our guys would handle.

We proceed to get our head kicked in. Until proven on the field I will believe we will do good in pass pro but struggle to run against any Defense worth a dam. Have we ran on a good defense in 2 years??

Who said that? UF lost some LB's and the Safeties. I thought that would hurt them but I don't think I doubted that defensive line. Powell, Easley, Floyd is a solid group. We all know about the 3 CB's they have.

 

[Coach Macho]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Yeah, you run right in to the hole left behind. That's the problem with slants, stunts, etc vs just having a defensive line that's big enough to control its gaps.

Not that I wouldn't take Easely though, that kid's one of the best 3 techniques I've ever seen at the college level.

Huh?

There's a backer to account for hole left behind.

The D-linemen aren't "leaving a hole behind", they're simply exchanging their gap. Easley was lined up in the B-gap and when the ball snapped he angled into the A-gap. Simple exchange.

 

[Coach Macho]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Yeah, you run right in to the hole left behind. That's the problem with slants, stunts, etc vs just having a defensive line that's big enough to control its gaps.

Not that I wouldn't take Easely though, that kid's one of the best 3 techniques I've ever seen at the college level.

My concern is we didn't adjust, so why didn't we? I'm going to chalk it up to being ultra conservative and playing with a lead....but you better believe we will see that gameplan again and we have to be ready to adjust.

You can't adjust to something that you don't even know is coming. Slanting is not something that's done every play. How can you "adjust" to the DL slants when you don't even know when they're slanting or which way they're slanting to?

 

[The Franchise]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Not even close. We will handle fsu's DL.

Not saying you, but these same type of absolutes were mentioned prior to the UF game. All summer was told UF lost alot upfront to NFL and our guys would handle.

We proceed to get our head kicked in. Until proven on the field I will believe we will do good in pass pro but struggle to run against any Defense worth a dam. Have we ran on a good defense in 2 years??

I think we ran it pretty well on Vag Tech. I didn't say we'd run all over fsu; I think we'll handle their DL and move the football and score points on them. fsu has nowhere near the DL unit that uf#g has. And they don't have anyone in Easley's area code as far as a single disruptive maniac. If you don't think 1 insanely dynamic DT can completely take over a game and turn a good/decent defense into a great one, just look at the precipitous downfall of the Nebraska D after Suh left.

 

[The Franchise]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Again, FSU's defense is doing something different than their usual slants and 1gap. Maybe they change for one game, but they don't have an Easley that'll make it look that seamless.

I feel like people are really under rating FSU's DL. If there is one unit they have on their team that is crazy good, it's the DL.

I think their LBs are way better than their DL. They have highly recruited 4 and 5 star guys on the DL, but I haven't seen anything special on the football field from them yet. And they lost all their big-time experienced Dlinemen.

 

[bobbydigius]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Again, FSU's defense is doing something different than their usual slants and 1gap. Maybe they change for one game, but they don't have an Easley that'll make it look that seamless.

I feel like people are really under rating FSU's DL. If there is one unit they have on their team that is crazy good, it's the DL.

I think their LBs are way better than their DL. They have highly recruited 4 and 5 star guys on the DL, but I haven't seen anything special on the football field from them yet. And they lost all their big-time experienced Dlinemen.

Their LBs are real good, T Smith being the guy that I think will give us some problems, but back on topic, Jernigan is definitely in Easley's area code. Also watched Goldmam in mop up duty last year for them, he is gonna be a problem. We will see about their DEs....

 

[TheMatador]

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Goldkamp247 Miami OL held Florida's 4-man (or less) pass rush to affecting QB on just 15.8% of dropbacks. Would have been best of any team last year. 9/10/13 1:09 PM

Yes, the *** Rage Defense was the nastiest I've seen in a time, and our guys deserve some credit for standing up.

 

[DC Dog Nuts]

They better get it right by the FSU game. Their D-line could be as good or better the Fl..

Again, FSU's defense is doing something different than their usual slants and 1gap. Maybe they change for one game, but they don't have an Easley that'll make it look that seamless.

I feel like people are really under rating FSU's DL. If there is one unit they have on their team that is crazy good, it's the DL.

I think their LBs are way better than their DL. They have highly recruited 4 and 5 star guys on the DL, but I haven't seen anything special on the football field from them yet. And they lost all their big-time experienced Dlinemen.

Our soft O-Line will make even the most half-*** D-Line look rugid.

 

[LuCane]

Couple of quick points.

There is a major misconception that zone blocking is soft. While we haven't run as much so far this this year Inside Zone is by no means a soft running play and our guys did a great job with it last year. Now while we are running a lot more OS zone we are definitely moving more east and west than north and south, but I just don't think soft is the right word.

I also saw mention of the zone with counter action. I absolutely love these "Split Flow" Zones. By bringing a fullback or TE back across the formation you allow all offensive linemen to push their combinations forward and create a natural cutback lane and potentially a huge gash if the defensive end does not play the blocker coming back correctly. Duke should be extremely effective in Split Flow Zone

I don't think it's soft. I just don't see our guys executing it as well as I'd expect from their individual talent levels so far this season. As I said for one of the individuals, I just have high expectations for the OL.

 

[FullyERicht]

With these zone plays you also require not only a ton of communication, but the C has to make calls and the QB has to be able to audible out against what he sees.

Considering its a new system, I am not shocked that this mental aspect, critical to ZBS, is lacking.

Then when you add in the fact that we aren't athletic enough to zone block against elite stunting DL, you get what we saw Sat.

Still don't understand how there is such a disparity between pass blocking and run blocking though.

 

[88]

Can someone point me in the direction of a game I can watch where Jernigan dominated? I'm not saying he hasn't I just want to see what he's like at his best.

He was handled in the Miami-FSU game last year and he's never stood out in a game I've watched casually.

 

[Coach Macho]

Can someone point me in the direction of a game I can watch where Jernigan dominated? I'm not saying he hasn't I just want to see what he's like at his best.

He was handled in the Miami-FSU game last year and he's never stood out in a game I've watched casually.

He got his *** kicked last year against Miami.

 

[Coach Macho]

Couple of quick points.

There is a major misconception that zone blocking is soft. While we haven't run as much so far this this year Inside Zone is by no means a soft running play and our guys did a great job with it last year. Now while we are running a lot more OS zone we are definitely moving more east and west than north and south, but I just don't think soft is the right word.

I also saw mention of the zone with counter action. I absolutely love these "Split Flow" Zones. By bringing a fullback or TE back across the formation you allow all offensive linemen to push their combinations forward and create a natural cutback lane and potentially a huge gash if the defensive end does not play the blocker coming back correctly. Duke should be extremely effective in Split Flow Zone

Nobody is saying that zone is soft.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Talked to Mongo a little bit today.

*Said Easley is the best DL this OL unit has ever played against.

*Said UF tried to come out in a base defense, got their asses kicked and then switched up to more of a slant/angling front. This is the reason for our early success. I noticed this on film as well. They started blitzing alot more and running alot more "movement" on the Defensive Line. This is where Miami's troubles started, specifically at Center.

Oh, and regarding the d!ckhead who said Miami's O-line was intimidated. He said there was jawing back and forth all game between the two units. Feliciano actually almost got in trouble with the refs for some antics at the end of the first half. It started after the last play of the half, when UF's D-line was standing in the way of Miami and talkin trash, Mongo walked right through the middle of their defense.


I think that's about it. We talked about a few specific plays, but nothing interesting enough to mention here.


I think the fact that UF switched up their scheme says something about the ability of our O-line. UF had to adjust cause in the beginning they were getting worked. The scheme that they switched to up-front is very difficult for ANY Offensive Line to play against. You imagine Easley lined-up in a 3-technique but after the ball is snapped he slants hard inside to the A-gap.

If this is so difficult why not start off like that, and what's to prevent other teams from doing the same thing. I imagine there have to be some drawbacks to the slant/angling front that we failed to exploit.

Because you have to have the athletes. As I've said, Dominique Easley is lightning quick, athletic, extremely strong and very active defensive tackle. Don't be fooled by how many tackles the kid does or doesn't make. He has to be accounted for on every down. The other 3 kids on that Florida defensive front are making NFL rosters. Florida has a Top 5 defense.