Give Richt a pass in 2016. Yes or No

Not sure what that Clemson tangent has to do with anything. The issue many of us are having is why is the offense regressing?

So the reason your logic is bad is because it is irrelevant.

The offense is regressing bc Brad Kaaya is washed up trash... He is soft as Charmin and can't handle the pressure to win or the scrutiny that comes with losing. Same **** happened to every QB thats played here since Ken Dorsey, why do you think whats going on with Brad Kaaya is unexplainable, he wasn't good last year.

And this we beat VaTech last year argument is the dumbest excuse I've heard yet. Do you really believe we would've beaten them this year with Golden and his staff running this program instead of Richt?

So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.
 
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Not sure what that Clemson tangent has to do with anything. The issue many of us are having is why is the offense regressing?

So the reason your logic is bad is because it is irrelevant.

The offense is regressing bc Brad Kaaya is washed up trash... He is soft as Charmin and can't handle the pressure to win or the scrutiny that comes with losing. Same **** happened to every QB thats played here since Ken Dorsey, why do you think whats going on with Brad Kaaya is unexplainable, he wasn't good last year.

And this we beat VaTech last year argument is the dumbest excuse I've heard yet. Do you really believe we would've beaten them this year with Golden and his staff running this program instead of Richt?

So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol
 
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Not sure what that Clemson tangent has to do with anything. The issue many of us are having is why is the offense regressing?

So the reason your logic is bad is because it is irrelevant.

The offense is regressing bc Brad Kaaya is washed up trash... He is soft as Charmin and can't handle the pressure to win or the scrutiny that comes with losing. Same **** happened to every QB thats played here since Ken Dorsey, why do you think whats going on with Brad Kaaya is unexplainable, he wasn't good last year.

And this we beat VaTech last year argument is the dumbest excuse I've heard yet. Do you really believe we would've beaten them this year with Golden and his staff running this program instead of Richt?

So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol

Potato,

This offense (virtually the same as last year) has regressed, why is that so difficult to understand?

You claim this is due to Kaaya being washed up.

What does meth taste like?
 
Not sure what that Clemson tangent has to do with anything. The issue many of us are having is why is the offense regressing?

So the reason your logic is bad is because it is irrelevant.

The offense is regressing bc Brad Kaaya is washed up trash... He is soft as Charmin and can't handle the pressure to win or the scrutiny that comes with losing. Same **** happened to every QB thats played here since Ken Dorsey, why do you think whats going on with Brad Kaaya is unexplainable, he wasn't good last year.

And this we beat VaTech last year argument is the dumbest excuse I've heard yet. Do you really believe we would've beaten them this year with Golden and his staff running this program instead of Richt?

So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol

Potato,

This offense (virtually the same as last year) has regressed, why is that so difficult to understand?

You claim this is due to Kaaya being washed up.

What does meth taste like?

LMAO NEWSFLASH BRAD KAAYA AND THIS OFFENSE WASNT GOOD AT ALL LAST YEAR EITHER....

34-23 LOSS TO CINCY
58-0 LOSS TO CLEMSON
59-21 LOSS TO UNC
14 POINTS AGAINST WASHINGTON STATES DEFENSE??

Kaaya had 16 passing TDs all season what about that and the above looks like our offense was "better"?? It was always trash and Kaaya has been at the center of it the entire time.
 
The offense is regressing bc Brad Kaaya is washed up trash... He is soft as Charmin and can't handle the pressure to win or the scrutiny that comes with losing. Same **** happened to every QB thats played here since Ken Dorsey, why do you think whats going on with Brad Kaaya is unexplainable, he wasn't good last year.

And this we beat VaTech last year argument is the dumbest excuse I've heard yet. Do you really believe we would've beaten them this year with Golden and his staff running this program instead of Richt?

So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol

Potato,

This offense (virtually the same as last year) has regressed, why is that so difficult to understand?

You claim this is due to Kaaya being washed up.

What does meth taste like?

LMAO NEWSFLASH BRAD KAAYA AND THIS OFFENSE WASNT GOOD AT ALL LAST YEAR EITHER....

34-23 LOSS TO CINCY
58-0 LOSS TO CLEMSON
59-21 LOSS TO UNC
14 POINTS AGAINST WASHINGTON STATES DEFENSE??

Kaaya had 16 passing TDs all season what about that and the above looks like our offense was "better"?? It was always trash and Kaaya has been at the center of it the entire time.

Here you go Potato, actual stats...

ACC Performance on Offense

2015: 8 Games

Yards Per Game: 372 YPG
Points Per Game: 29 PPG


2016: Through 4 Games


Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

Record: 1-3


2015: GT, FSU, UNC and VT

Yards Per Game: 408 YPG
Points Per Game 28 PPG

Record: 2-2

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This is know as regression (google it).
 
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If you are hired to fix a failing company full of unproductive workers , the first thing you do is try to get rid of the biggest trouble makers (bye bye Grace and AQM). You then want to fire the unproductive workers, especially the ones who cost the company money by constantly making mistakes. You can try and discipline them or try to incentivize getting with the program, but you know that in every work place there are knuckleheads who don't respond. Dolphins had two linemen who were utterly failing and cut them, then signed new players. Suddenly the blocking was better and qb was productive. Problem is you can't fire players in college and hire new ones until the end of the year. Until college allows mid season transfers, those same " workers" that ran the company in the ground will still be there until the end of the year. Miami hired Richt to clean house, he literally has not had the opportunity to do that even once yet. Not once. So why people are surprised and upset that terrible players are still playing terribly is beyond me. You can't fix them, only get rid of them. Ask yourself: why are the worst players upper classmen? Shouldn't the mental mistakes come from the least experienced players? That should tell you all you need to know about where the problems are. I'm sure Richt will encourage quite a few players to consider transferring at the end of the year. In the meantime we have to endure a brutal stretch of watching bad players and hope their habits don't rub off on the good ones
 
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So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol

Potato,

This offense (virtually the same as last year) has regressed, why is that so difficult to understand?

You claim this is due to Kaaya being washed up.

What does meth taste like?

LMAO NEWSFLASH BRAD KAAYA AND THIS OFFENSE WASNT GOOD AT ALL LAST YEAR EITHER....

34-23 LOSS TO CINCY
58-0 LOSS TO CLEMSON
59-21 LOSS TO UNC
14 POINTS AGAINST WASHINGTON STATES DEFENSE??

Kaaya had 16 passing TDs all season what about that and the above looks like our offense was "better"?? It was always trash and Kaaya has been at the center of it the entire time.

Here you go Potato, actual stats...

ACC Performance on Offense

2015: 8 Games

Yards Per Game: 372 YPG
Points Per Game: 29 PPG


2016: Through 4 Games


Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

Record: 1-3


2015: GT, FSU, UNC and VT

Yards Per Game: 408 YPG
Points Per Game 28 PPG

Record: 2-2

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This is know as regression (google it).

Unless you can establish that conditions are substantially similar (opponents did not substantially improve, you have same talent and players, etc) regression analysis is not a particularly useful analytical tool. The numbers may show that you are statistically worse but it doesn't reveal whether that means that the team is actually worse unless you control for competition. If my team is 10% better than last year but my opponents are 20% better (perhaps they had injuries to key players last year who are playing now or my team has more key injuries this year than last) you will see a corresponding drop in production.
 
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So Kaaya plays better with the same offense last year and it has nothing to do with Richt but it is due to him being washed up, interesting. That is some awesome reasoning there.

You're the potato who brought up that stupid point about UNC and VT (coach Richt knows how to win...) and yet he lost both.

You're a dumbass.... VaTechs defense wasn't good last year or their team, now theyre better on both sides and Brad Kaaya folded like usual when he is up against a competitive team. I see that fact is hard for your slow *** to accept

Youre basically saying we would've won with Golden and his staff which makes you come off even dumber lol

Potato,

This offense (virtually the same as last year) has regressed, why is that so difficult to understand?

You claim this is due to Kaaya being washed up.

What does meth taste like?

LMAO NEWSFLASH BRAD KAAYA AND THIS OFFENSE WASNT GOOD AT ALL LAST YEAR EITHER....

34-23 LOSS TO CINCY
58-0 LOSS TO CLEMSON
59-21 LOSS TO UNC
14 POINTS AGAINST WASHINGTON STATES DEFENSE??

Kaaya had 16 passing TDs all season what about that and the above looks like our offense was "better"?? It was always trash and Kaaya has been at the center of it the entire time.

Here you go Potato, actual stats...

ACC Performance on Offense

2015: 8 Games

Yards Per Game: 372 YPG
Points Per Game: 29 PPG


2016: Through 4 Games


Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

Record: 1-3


2015: GT, FSU, UNC and VT

Yards Per Game: 408 YPG
Points Per Game 28 PPG

Record: 2-2

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This is know as regression (google it).

that's a very flawed method, but Lets compare the same October 1-3 stretch we had in 2015 to the 1-3 stretch this year.

2015: (October 1-3 record)

Yards per Game: 348.25
Points per Game: 16.75

2016: (October 1-3 record)

Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

/ lol its sad how you and so many others grasp at straws, trying to defend Kaaya by pointing the blame at other issues ( play calling and Oline) that not only he adds to those problems, but regardless aren't the biggest problems with this team / offense. It's all on Brad Kaaya its time for you all to just accept it.
 
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Fact: Richt has managed to produce 10 win seasons for the majority of his long career. He has a reputation for not winning big games. First you have to win 10+ games a season to play in the biggest games. It is an established fact that Richt has a system that is proven to average more than 10 or more wins a season. Miami does not appear to have either the players (size /talent) or the comfort level yet to run Richts system which averages more than 10+ wins a season. He believes (and track record supports) that if he gets the right players running his system well he will win 10+ games a season. Richt tried to modify the system as much as he could without scrapping it to accommodate player deficiencies but was unsuccessful. So the question now that the ACC championship is out of the picture (no one of intelligence seriously thought we'd be playing in the ACC championship his first year), does he continue to run his system that will likely produce ten win seasons in the future (get players more comfortable in it so they are more experienced with it next year) or do something different and essentially waste a year that players could have been learning his 10+ win system so that in 2-3 years the freshman who will be juniors will be able to execute the system in their sleep? I lean towards focusing on developing the freshman and sophomores, not watering down what he wants to run to accommodate players who are unlikely to be on the team a year from now.
 
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Fact: Richt has managed to produce 10 win seasons for the majority of his long career. He has a reputation for not winning big games. First you have to win 10+ games a season to play in the biggest games. It is an established fact that Richt has a system that is proven to average more than 10 or more wins a season. Miami does not appear to have either the players (size /talent) or the comfort level yet to run Richts system which averages more than 10+ wins a season. He believes (and track record supports) that if he gets the right players running his system well he will win 10+ games a season. Richt tried to modify the system as much as he could without scrapping it to accommodate player deficiencies but was unsuccessful. So the question now that the ACC championship is out of the picture (no one of intelligence seriously thought we'd be playing in the ACC championship his first year), does he continue to run his system that will likely produce ten win seasons in the future (get players more comfortable in it so they are more experienced with it next year) or do something different and essentially waste a year that players could have been learning his 10+ win system so that in 2-3 years the freshman who will be juniors will be able to execute the system in their sleep? I lean towards focusing on developing the freshman and sophomores, not watering down what he wants to run to accommodate players who are unlikely to be on the team a year from now.

I agree with this. As much as we'd like Richt to be an X's and O's guru, he's just not. He's a lot like Butch in terms of program building.

Richt's offense revolves around having a strong inside run game. Ours is non existent and thats not his fault.

Until he has his OL, RBs, and QB... I'll reserve some judgement.

I think we're all just disappointed in this season because diaz turned the defense around so fast.
 
that's a very flawed method, but Lets compare the same October 1-3 stretch we had in 2015 to the 1-3 stretch this year.

2015: (October 1-3 record)

Yards per Game: 348.25
Points per Game: 16.75

2016: (October 1-3 record)

Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

/ lol its sad how you and so many others grasp at straws, trying to defend Kaaya by pointing the blame at other issues ( play calling and Oline) that not only he adds to those problems, but regardless aren't the biggest problems with this team / offense. It's all on Brad Kaaya its time for you all to just accept it.

How is it flawed? I compared the SAME EXACT 4 opponents (FSU, UNC, VT and GT) in both seasons. Here it is again because you're a potato.

2016: GT, FSU, UNC and VT

Yards Per Game: 340 YPG
Points Per Game: 21 PPG

Record: 1-3


2015: GT, FSU, UNC and VT

Yards Per Game: 408 YPG
Points Per Game 28 PPG

Record: 2-2

Again, no one said Kaaya is perfect or great. We're saying that this offense has REGRESSED. Keep trying. You fail again.


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Also, in addition to being flawed, your numbers are wrong.

In October of 2015, we played 5 games and went 2-3. We averaged 21.4 PPG and 356.8 YPG. Both numbers are higher than our current October production.

What does meth taste like?
 
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No excuses! He still deserves another year to turn it around....if he doesn't win the coastal or beat fsu next season.....much as I think Richt is a good person....4 mil is alot to pay a under achieving coach...
 
Fact: Richt has managed to produce 10 win seasons for the majority of his long career. He has a reputation for not winning big games. First you have to win 10+ games a season to play in the biggest games. It is an established fact that Richt has a system that is proven to average more than 10 or more wins a season. Miami does not appear to have either the players (size /talent) or the comfort level yet to run Richts system which averages more than 10+ wins a season. He believes (and track record supports) that if he gets the right players running his system well he will win 10+ games a season. Richt tried to modify the system as much as he could without scrapping it to accommodate player deficiencies but was unsuccessful. So the question now that the ACC championship is out of the picture (no one of intelligence seriously thought we'd be playing in the ACC championship his first year), does he continue to run his system that will likely produce ten win seasons in the future (get players more comfortable in it so they are more experienced with it next year) or do something different and essentially waste a year that players could have been learning his 10+ win system so that in 2-3 years the freshman who will be juniors will be able to execute the system in their sleep? I lean towards focusing on developing the freshman and sophomores, not watering down what he wants to run to accommodate players who are unlikely to be on the team a year from now.

I agree with this. As much as we'd like Richt to be an X's and O's guru, he's just not. He's a lot like Butch in terms of program building.

Richt's offense revolves around having a strong inside run game. Ours is non existent and thats not his fault.

Until he has his OL, RBs, and QB... I'll reserve some judgement.

I think we're all just disappointed in this season because diaz turned the defense around so fast.

bro let's be serious at the difference between the two sides of the ball

can we just imagine our defense going up against this offense in a live game. Let's just say vatech had our defense full healthy and we had our offense fully healthy last thursday night

kayaa would have been sacked 12+ times
 
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