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TheOriginalCane

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I'll start this out very simply. I believe Miami needs to win the next 5 to make the ACC-CG.

There are currently TWO teams with zero ACC losses, and FIVE team with one ACC loss including Miami. Assuming we win out, we would move ahead of Pitt and SMU in the conference standings. Thus there are four problematic teams, and we would need to finish in the #2 (or #1) spot to make the ACC-CG.

Duke - currently 3-1 in ACC. Duke plays AT CLEMSON, hosts UVa, plays AT UNC, and hosts Wake. I highly doubt they win all 4, meaning we could bypass Duke with one or more Duke losses.

Louisville - also 3-1 in the ACC. Having missed our shot to put a second loss on Louisvillle, they now play AT VATECH, host Cal, host Clemson, and play AT SMU. Maybe I should start rooting for a Clemson resurgence, they could kill two birds with one stone.

UVa - currently 4-0 in the ACC. UVa plays AT CAL, hosts Wake, plays AT DUKE, and hosts VaTech. Ideally, we'd root for Cal/Wake wins, I'm just not sure if UVa will drop two, so we may need to best them on a tiebreaker.

GaTech - currently 5-0 in the ACC, so they'd need to drop 2 out of 3. GaTech plays at NC State, at Boston College, and then hosts Pitt.

Assuming Miami wins out and Duke, Louisville, and UVa take one more loss, I'd need a refresher on a 2-team tiebreaker (UM, UVa) where those teams don't play in the regular season.
 
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Tiebreakers​

  1. Head-to-Head Win Percentage ▼less
    Win percentage in games between the tiebreaker teams.



    Every team plays its opponents either 0 or 1 time.



    This tiebreaker is applicable only if all tiebreaker teams have played the each other.
  2. Head-to-Head Sweep ▼less
    Each team plays its conference opponents either zero or one times. A team wins this tiebreaker if it plays all of the tiebreaker teams and wins every such game. Likewise a team loses this tiebreaker if it plays all of the tiebreaker teams and loses every such game.
  3. Common Games ▼less
    Win percentage in common games.

    What is a common game? First of all it does not include any games between the tiebreaker teams. A common game is one against a common opponent. The common opponent must be common to each and every team in the tiebreaker, not just a subset of them.


  4. Nth Place Common Opponent ▼less
    Record against the highest finished (by record) common opponent. If still tied, apply the tiebreaker to the next highest common opponent. The common opponent must be common to all tiebreaker teams.

    If a group of common opponents have the same record, an attempt to order those teams with only the head-to-head tiebreaker will occur. If unsuccessful, the tiebreaker teams record against the group of common opponents will be used.
  5. Strength of Conference Schedule ▼less
    Average Win Percentage of each tiebreaker team conference opponents.
  6. Team Ranking Score by SportSource Analytics
  7. Coin Flip
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I'll start this out very simply. I believe Miami needs to win the next 5 to make the ACC-CG.

There are currently TWO teams with zero ACC losses, and FIVE team with one ACC loss including Miami. Assuming we win out, we would move ahead of Pitt and SMU in the conference standings. Thus there are four problematic teams, and we would need to finish in the #2 (or #1) spot to make the ACC-CG.

Duke - currently 3-1 in ACC. Duke plays AT CLEMSON, hosts UVa, plays AT UNC, and hosts Wake. I highly doubt they win all 4, meaning we could bypass Duke with one or more Duke losses.

Louisville - also 3-1 in the ACC. Having missed our shot to put a second loss on Louisvillle, they now play AT VATECH, host Cal, host Clemson, and play AT SMU. Maybe I should start rooting for a Clemson resurgence, they could kill two birds with one stone.

UVa - currently 4-0 in the ACC. UVa plays AT CAL, hosts Wake, plays AT DUKE, and hosts VaTech. Ideally, we'd root for Cal/Wake wins, I'm just not sure if UVa will drop two, so we may need to best them on a tiebreaker.

GaTech - currently 5-0 in the ACC, so they'd need to drop 2 out of 3. GaTech plays at NC State, at Boston College, and then hosts Pitt.

Assuming Miami wins out and Duke, Louisville, and UVa take one more loss, I'd need a refresher on a 2-team tiebreaker (UM, UVa) where those teams don't play in the regular season.
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We need LVille to lose and GT to lose. I think we would win the tie breaker over GT. We would need UVA to lose 2 since the tie breaker would be record against common opponents and they beat LVille we didn’t.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I'll start this out very simply. I believe Miami needs to win the next 5 to make the ACC-CG.

There are currently TWO teams with zero ACC losses, and FIVE team with one ACC loss including Miami. Assuming we win out, we would move ahead of Pitt and SMU in the conference standings. Thus there are four problematic teams, and we would need to finish in the #2 (or #1) spot to make the ACC-CG.

Duke - currently 3-1 in ACC. Duke plays AT CLEMSON, hosts UVa, plays AT UNC, and hosts Wake. I highly doubt they win all 4, meaning we could bypass Duke with one or more Duke losses.

Louisville - also 3-1 in the ACC. Having missed our shot to put a second loss on Louisvillle, they now play AT VATECH, host Cal, host Clemson, and play AT SMU. Maybe I should start rooting for a Clemson resurgence, they could kill two birds with one stone.

UVa - currently 4-0 in the ACC. UVa plays AT CAL, hosts Wake, plays AT DUKE, and hosts VaTech. Ideally, we'd root for Cal/Wake wins, I'm just not sure if UVa will drop two, so we may need to best them on a tiebreaker.

GaTech - currently 5-0 in the ACC, so they'd need to drop 2 out of 3. GaTech plays at NC State, at Boston College, and then hosts Pitt.

Assuming Miami wins out and Duke, Louisville, and UVa take one more loss, I'd need a refresher on a 2-team tiebreaker (UM, UVa) where those teams don't play in the regular season.
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Expect Miami to be 11-1 and 3rd behind GT and Louisville. ACC will make this happen and then if GT has beaten UGA they will make sure the Cardinals win the ACC title game and force the committee to leave out the Canes
 
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tdjones34 said:
Im rooting for Ga Tech to go undefeated be ranked #4 last week
Miami to go 11-1 be ranked #5
UL to beat Ga Tech in OT and get auto bid

I want to see if the tards are right on here and they would drop a 1 loss team 9 spots that week to exclude an ACC team
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I have same but UVA beating Tech.
 
tdjones34 said:
Im rooting for Ga Tech to go undefeated be ranked #4 last week
Miami to go 11-1 be ranked #5
UL to beat Ga Tech in OT and get auto bid

I want to see if the tards are right on here and they would drop a 1 loss team 9 spots that week to exclude an ACC team
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GT undefeated would mean they would beat UGA, if this scenario happens there is no way they drop GT IF they keep UGA in the top 12.

With that said GT is not beating UGA
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
GT undefeated would mean they would beat UGA, if this scenario happens there is no way they drop GT IF they keep UGA in the top 12.

With that said GT is not beating UGA
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that's my point
I know they wouldn't, but been told they would drop an ACC out
Like they would just magically drop #4 or #5 out
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I'll start this out very simply. I believe Miami needs to win the next 5 to make the ACC-CG.

There are currently TWO teams with zero ACC losses, and FIVE team with one ACC loss including Miami. Assuming we win out, we would move ahead of Pitt and SMU in the conference standings. Thus there are four problematic teams, and we would need to finish in the #2 (or #1) spot to make the ACC-CG.

Duke - currently 3-1 in ACC. Duke plays AT CLEMSON, hosts UVa, plays AT UNC, and hosts Wake. I highly doubt they win all 4, meaning we could bypass Duke with one or more Duke losses.

Louisville - also 3-1 in the ACC. Having missed our shot to put a second loss on Louisvillle, they now play AT VATECH, host Cal, host Clemson, and play AT SMU. Maybe I should start rooting for a Clemson resurgence, they could kill two birds with one stone.

UVa - currently 4-0 in the ACC. UVa plays AT CAL, hosts Wake, plays AT DUKE, and hosts VaTech. Ideally, we'd root for Cal/Wake wins, I'm just not sure if UVa will drop two, so we may need to best them on a tiebreaker.

GaTech - currently 5-0 in the ACC, so they'd need to drop 2 out of 3. GaTech plays at NC State, at Boston College, and then hosts Pitt.

Assuming Miami wins out and Duke, Louisville, and UVa take one more loss, I'd need a refresher on a 2-team tiebreaker (UM, UVa) where those teams don't play in the regular season.
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No need overthinking. Just win out & earn playoff slot.
 
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tdjones34 said:
exactly, the changes of 3 ACC teams are way higher, which is next to none
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Just between us girls, and we all know this won’t happen, but it would be so interesting if GT wins out, as in beats UGA, and finishes 12-0. They’re obviously in the ACCCG, and probably ranked #2 or #3 in the CFP rankings.

Miami wins out and is 11-1. Probably ranked, 5th? 6th? 7th at worst?

Louisville wins out, and wins the ACCCG.

They’re 12-1, ACC Champs.
GT is 12-1, ACC runners up
Miami is 11-1

VERY interesting. Obviously on the surface, 3 ACC teams are in. And that might be the verdict. But I’ll bet no one on the planet would admit right now that the ACC could get 3 in. Who gets left out? The B1G is almost certainly getting at least 3. ND at 10-2 is out? Ehhhhh. The G5 rep is in. Big 12 is in. That’s 6. So ACC gets 3 and SEC gets 3? People will set fire to whatever building these clowns hold the playoff discussions in. I’m here for it.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Just between us girls, and we all know this won’t happen, but it would be so interesting if GT wins out, as in beats UGA, and finishes 12-0. They’re obviously in the ACCCG, and probably ranked #2 or #3 in the CFP rankings.

Miami wins out and is 11-1. Probably ranked, 5th? 6th? 7th at worst?

Louisville wins out, and wins the ACCCG.

They’re 12-1, ACC Champs.
GT is 12-1, ACC runners up
Miami is 11-1

VERY interesting. Obviously on the surface, 3 ACC teams are in. And that might be the verdict. But I’ll bet no one on the planet would admit right now that the ACC could get 3 in. Who gets left out? The B1G is almost certainly getting at least 3. ND at 10-2 is out? Ehhhhh. The G5 rep is in. Big 12 is in. That’s 6. So ACC gets 3 and SEC gets 3? People will set fire to whatever building these clowns hold the playoff discussions in. I’m here for it.
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whoever was ranked lowest that didn't win their conference week before, or low ranked CCG loser, there would be movement down from idle teams
 
tdjones34 said:
whoever was ranked lowest that didn't win their conference week before, or low ranked CCG loser, there would be movement down from idle teams
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It’ll work itself out, it does 99.99% of the time. But it’d be very interesting. The SEC currently has 5 teams who then committee would 10000% have in the top 10 were the rankings released tonight. They really don’t all play each other. Gonna be very fun to watch down the stretch.
 
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