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Getting to the ACC-CG - the simple way

Calinative said:
its looking like there will be 3 spots for ACC+ND.
B12 could throw wrench if it looks like they could get 2 with TTU and BYU. The reality is the B1G should probably only have like 3. But Iowa could change that as Oregon may still get preferential treatment even with an Iowa loss. SEC WILL get 4 minimum, even if they only deserve like 3. It'd be shocking if Ole Miss and A&M missed the playoff as of now. And You really think Bama+UGA aren't making it? A 2 loss UGA vs a 1 loss Miami (if neither play in their Conference Champ game).... hmmm tough call lol not...
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I’m starting to really think our best bet is 11-1 and not making Charlotte. We’re in at 11-1, no questions asked. I think the ESPN predictor, which is **** but still somewhat relevant, has 11-1 Miami with no Charlotte as a 96% chance to make it.

I think if we go 11-1 and lose in Charlotte, they can push us out. Obviously I want to win this miserable league, finally. But I’m really starting to think we should be rooting for GT and Louisville to win out in the league and us to just finish 11-1.

Too much mental gymnastics right now with so much ball left to play. But it’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Just win the next 5 regardless, but I’m not sure getting to Charlotte if we do is best case scenario.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I’m starting to really think our best bet is 11-1 and not making Charlotte. We’re in at 11-1, no questions asked. I think the ESPN predictor, which is **** but still somewhat relevant, has 11-1 Miami with no Charlotte as a 96% chance to make it.

I think if we go 11-1 and lose in Charlotte, they can push us out. Obviously I want to win this miserable league, finally. But I’m really starting to think we should be rooting for GT and Louisville to win out in the league and us to just finish 11-1.

Too much mental gymnastics right now with so much ball left to play. But it’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Just win the next 5 regardless, but I’m not sure getting to Charlotte if we do is best case scenario.
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11-1 no questions asked huh...
You have much more faith in the committee not picking 4 SEC and B1G schools than I do.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
Expect Miami to be 11-1 and 3rd behind GT and Louisville. ACC will make this happen and then if GT has beaten UGA they will make sure the Cardinals win the ACC title game and force the committee to leave out the Canes
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It's going to be hard justifying putting ND in if they win out with two losses, and one of them being to Miami, while Miami is 11-1 with a close loss to a good team. What pretzel will they have to wrap themselves into to justify that one?
 
ThomasM said:
It's going to be hard justifying putting ND in if they win out with two losses, and one of them being to Miami, while Miami is 11-1 with a close loss to a good team. What pretzel will they have to wrap themselves into to justify that one?
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With their best win being…USC? navy? I’ll never say the committee won’t do ND favors, of course they will. But if the last spot is Miami vs ND, we’re 11-1 with better wins, the best of them being literally over ND. We’ll discuss this 700 more times over the next month so no reason to go nuts now, there are so many big games to be played but I don’t see a world where 11–1 Miami is out.

Now, 11-2 with a loss in Charlotte…..
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
With their best win being…USC? navy? I’ll never say the committee won’t do ND favors, of course they will. But if the last spot is Miami vs ND, we’re 11-1 with better wins, the best of them being literally over ND. We’ll discuss this 700 more times over the next month so no reason to go nuts now, there are so many big games to be played but I don’t see a world where 11–1 Miami is out.

Now, 11-2 with a loss in Charlotte…..
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It's also not like teams ahead of us won't lose. All we have to do is win the games we should win. Do that and we're good. No more pathetic Louisville type performances and we're in.

That being said, we need to start stomping teams. That alone crushes the hopes of future opponents. It has a psychological effect on teams when they see you are winning 50-3. When you are squeaking by bad teams, it gives future opponents hope. We simply need to start stomping teams and getting this thing going for real.

Bobby Bowden used to say, "Lose big, lose small, win small, win big." We need to get to win big, or we're not winning any kind of title.
 
ThomasM said:
It's going to be hard justifying putting ND in if they win out with two losses, and one of them being to Miami, while Miami is 11-1 with a close loss to a good team. What pretzel will they have to wrap themselves into to justify that one?
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I dont know what they will say but the bottom line is they will not put 3 acc teams in if that results in an equivalent number of B1G or SEC teams in the playoff.

Right now you got:

SEC - A&M, Bama as near locks. UGA, Vandy, Ole Miss. The SEC expects 4 of them if not all 5 in. Basically a 2 loss SEC team expects to make the playoff.

B1G - OSU, Indiana, Oregon, maybe Iowa same here two losses should equal playoff spot in their eyes. I think 1 loss is a more realistic expectation for the current state of the B1G

Big 12 - BYU, TT, Cincy there's an argument for 2 from this league if things playout right

ACC - GT, MIA, Louisville, maybe UVA

G5 AQ and ND outside shot

18 teams vying for 12 spots. With a few Big 2 teams trying to get in the mix by beating some of the current teams positioned to make the playoff.

The perceived superiority of the big 2 leagues are paramount for their future plans of the business of CFB. The ACC can not creep into the discussion. Right now we have 4 Teams in contention like the B1G but our top 3 have been more suspect than the B1G.

Most importantly nobody gets mad when Miami is the one getting ****ed. In fact the nation takes joy in it.
 
The ACC has been without divisions for 3 years…2020 (covid season), 2023, and 2024.

In that time, no team with only one conference loss has EVER been left out of the ACCCG.

If we win out, we WILL be in the ACCCG and playoffs. Guaranteed.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I’m starting to really think our best bet is 11-1 and not making Charlotte. We’re in at 11-1, no questions asked. I think the ESPN predictor, which is **** but still somewhat relevant, has 11-1 Miami with no Charlotte as a 96% chance to make it.

I think if we go 11-1 and lose in Charlotte, they can push us out. Obviously I want to win this miserable league, finally. But I’m really starting to think we should be rooting for GT and Louisville to win out in the league and us to just finish 11-1.

Too much mental gymnastics right now with so much ball left to play. But it’ll be interesting to see how this goes. Just win the next 5 regardless, but I’m not sure getting to Charlotte if we do is best case scenario.
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If Miami drops one more regular season game and misses the ACC championship and playoffs but wins a decent bowl game, would you personally consider a final record of 11-2 with a bowl to be a successful season?
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
If Miami drops one more regular season game and misses the ACC championship and playoffs but wins a decent bowl game, would you personally consider a final record of 11-2 with a bowl to be a successful season?
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Absolutely not. Nobody cares about non-playoff bowl games. I barely even watched the Pop Tarts Bowl, and I've watched every single regular season game Miami has played for the last 20 years multiple times (well, maybe a couple exceptions, I don't think the Jake Garcia/UVA game got much play, but you get the point).

Playoffs and/or Charlotte, or GTFO. There is ZERO scenarios where Miami doesn't make the playoff and it's a successful season, short of going 11-1 and getting generationally ****ed out of a spot, but that's not going to happen.

The playoff is 12 teams, and you play in the ACC. If you can't get into that dance, you failed miserably.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Absolutely not. Nobody cares about non-playoff bowl games. I barely even watched the Pop Tarts Bowl, and I've watched every single regular season game Miami has played for the last 20 years multiple times (well, maybe a couple exceptions, I don't think the Jake Garcia/UVA game got much play, but you get the point).

Playoffs and/or Charlotte, or GTFO. There is ZERO scenarios where Miami doesn't make the playoff and it's a successful season, short of going 11-1 and getting generationally ****ed out of a spot, but that's not going to happen.

The playoff is 12 teams, and you play in the ACC. If you can't get into that dance, you failed miserably.
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What’s is the solution if we do end up missing out on the playoffs again? More NIL so we can get a better transfer QB? I don’t think money was the issue this year. Trying to figure out how we can avoid being in this same situation year after year.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
What’s is the solution if we do end up missing out on the playoffs again? More NIL so we can get a better transfer QB? I don’t think money was the issue this year. Trying to figure out how we can avoid being in this same situation year after year.
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Brother, I don't know. Good question. I guess what any team does, try to improve your roster, try to get better players, have your coaches evolve, be better teachers, etc. There are only a very few teams in the country who truly have successful seasons relative to expectations. And even those that do still try to improve for the next year. The ones that don't have a steeper hill to climb. But I don't get paid $8M a year to answer your question, although it's certainly a good one. That's on Mario and his staff to review every single aspect of the program and do everything you can to put a better product on the field next season.
 
FWIW, looks like UVA will be missing their starting RB for the rest of the season and another starter in the secondary....
 
itll depend on where the committee ranks us in the first poll. if its where the AP has us, we likely are safe but we need to ideally be up around 8-9.
 
We'll know a lot more when the CFB committee reases their first rankings next tuesday. If we are in top 10 it is unlikely we'd be left out of the playoffs if we win out. Not impossiblethough. If a low ranked team like UVA wins the conference championship against an (unlikely) undefeated GT we could be in some trouble.
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
GT undefeated would mean they would beat UGA, if this scenario happens there is no way they drop GT IF they keep UGA in the top 12.

With that said GT is not beating UGA
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UGA needed 3 miracles and 8 overtime’s to beat 7-4 GT last year in Athens. I’d say GT is a step better in 2025 while you could argue UGA has taken a baby step back. I’ve watched Georgia play this year and have been mostly underwhelmed, notably their FCS tuneup game against Austin Peay. While it never felt like Georgia would drop the game to The Governors, it was far too close for what you’d expect from a Championship caliber team. This ain’t the same Georgia from 2021-2023.

GT could absolutely beat UGA. Florida could beat UGA. They’re only a 7.5 favorite right now…
 
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Obviously they make it up as they go but I thought last year they said losing the CG wouldn't hurt you?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Absolutely not. Nobody cares about non-playoff bowl games. I barely even watched the Pop Tarts Bowl, and I've watched every single regular season game Miami has played for the last 20 years multiple times (well, maybe a couple exceptions, I don't think the Jake Garcia/UVA game got much play, but you get the point).

Playoffs and/or Charlotte, or GTFO. There is ZERO scenarios where Miami doesn't make the playoff and it's a successful season, short of going 11-1 and getting generationally ****ed out of a spot, but that's not going to happen.

The playoff is 12 teams, and you play in the ACC. If you can't get into that dance, you failed miserably.
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Yep. IF we go 11-1, you know good and darn well teams ahead of us will lose. They would have to drop us, week after week, while winning. It's completely illogical.

That being said, Miami is the one team that will get penalized if we don't whoop teams like we should, every **** week. No one remembers our first 5 games, just the UL game, and whatever we do each week since. It's freaking weird.
 
Ideally, you wanna playoff spot this year and you wanna transition into a conference hopefully the Big Ten, where you can be one of those that can have a cushion to lose a game or two I would believe that’s what the admin is waiting for
 
canesstevealum08 said:
Ideally, you wanna playoff spot this year and you wanna transition into a conference hopefully the Big Ten, where you can be one of those that can have a cushion to lose a game or two I would believe that’s what the admin is waiting for
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They absolutely HAVE to get out of the ACC if they want any consistent shot at the playoffs every year. You need late season marquee matchups to save seasons that have a loss or two. Two loss ACC teams have no shot while 3 loss BIG10 and SEC teams have a legit chance if the schedule at the end of the year has strong matchups. Miami can go 11-1 this season and be the 10 or 11 seed after playing and beating Notre Dame, USF, and Florida. That's how stacked the deck is against us.
 
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