Georgia NIL leak on Jackson Cantwell

There is a poster on here goes by @gogeta4 that stated this when he was hired. I remember the wars i had sometime felt allll alone i went at @Rellyrell @Calinative and others about it.
This as i was driving the Lane Train lol.
That being said i STILL dont question him with OL or TE recruitment and evals because i believe those to be Mario's strong points.
The portal combined with NIL has completely changed what makes sense to do from a recruiting standpoint. And unlike most here, while I think we have a very good NIL (maybe 8-12 range imo) what people don't like to admit is just because you are top 10 in total dollars spent or on average per recruit doesn't mean you are outspending everyone that is 11th or below for every player on the margins. That's just not how it works. It's why Missouri and South Carolina can get 5star players.

Being like 10th on Average doesn't mean you have the NIL funding to just stack 5star on 5star with the ability to just let those expensive contracts sit the bench developing. The teams that have that capability (and it's diminishing over time just how much they are even stacking) are selling far more than just NIL. They are selling winning (proven competing for National Championship), selling a high quality brand over a decade+, and of course NFL development. Its much easier for a player to pick UGA, Ohio St, etc than Miami regardless what you say the NIL packages each is offering is. But when you add NIL to the mix, again its not like teams spending less than you can't outspend you on specific recruits. So the top programs don't have to spend as much as you for any given recruit because we have sucked *** as a program the last 2 decades, but even lower spending programs can match or outspend you on any handful of recruits. Sure maybe that means they have just a couple super high end recruits and the rest of their class is 3stars, but ultimately the end result is they got the recruit you wanted. You may have the better class or more spend per recruit, but they still got a guy you wanted...

But anyways even stacking the 5stars at positions that don't get a lot of rotational play if that is the strategy you want, then likely prevents you from hitting the portal hard, it backs you into the corner of having to give them a raise to keep them out the portal the following year. And the end result would be just people *****ing and moaning on here about how our guys are unproven going into next year.

Seriously for the perfect example, look at our EDGE room and how several people on here have been constantly doom posting about it. And that is LITERALLY a unit where we have three 5star prospects in Blount, Lightfoot and Lowe. A guy that is currently a projected top 10 pick in Bain that was one of the most productive freshman in the last decade. A 5year starting DE who has been productive in Mesidor (and would absolutely be a rotational player at even the top programs!), And then a handful of other very highly rated prospects like Pickett and Scroggins as well as McConathy who as a true freshman last year played more than even the two 5 star recruits did lol... And lastly Bryant who I'm not a very big fan of but should at least be solid... oh and almost forgot now Toure who absolutely has proven ability to rush the passer... Our AVERAGE EDGE player on this roster is currently rated 94 (93.98) basically lol. And we have 9 of them... And there has just been a **** load of complaining about our EDGE room lol.

So I'd love to hear how if we did the same stacking at other positions how there wouldn't be the constant complaining. In fact then the complaining would guaranteed shift to how bad the evaluations are and how the depth chart is mismanaged, because then people won't comprehend that whether you have a roster of 53, 85, or 105 you basically have the same 22 starting jobs with 45ish players seeing meaningful reps weekly.... Point is The ONLY thing that will ever stop people complaining about Mario and his recruiting/roster construction choices is Winning. That is all there is to it. And even that will only shut them up for like a day or two. Then it's on to well he blew the playoff game, he didn't recruit a good enough kicker to get us over the top, etc, bs, etc, bs...
 
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UGA is the best program in the country. You won’t hear me say a bad word about Kirby Smart. He is an elite recruiter and an elite evaluator. That’s why they are the favorite for Jackson Cantwell.

But despite all the advantages of being at the best program in America, Miami had the much better OL last year. We bring almost everybody back, including multiple NFL prospects who will be showing up on your charts. I attribute that to the difference between Mirabal and Searels.

The reason fans believe in Mirabal is simple. He had great OLs at Oregon, came here, inherited garbage, and quickly built a great OL here. I know Searels isn’t capable of doing that, because he already tried and failed miserably.
💯. ***** literally crazy. People will ***** just to ***** these days..

We’ve seen the best, most cohesive Oline units at Miami in a longggggg time since Cristobal/Mirabal took over. And from the sounds of it, will again this upcoming year. Yet we’ve got multiple people on here trashing Mario and the program due to draft picks and 5 star, 1 star, 2 star blah blah blah.

While it’s great to see kids succeed, as a fan of the Miami Hurricanes, who gives a flying **** where a UGA vs Miami vs whoever lineman is drafted. Mario and Mirabal have proven that regardless of a lack of draft picks or 5 stars, their oline units have been controlling games and pushing people around.

THAT should be what matters most to a Miami hurricanes fan.
 
Sounds like you spend too much time slurping what fans say on other boards. ****, they say a lot of things on this board. Deal in performance and the actions or hires of head coaches. Obviously, Kirby could give two ***** about what some UNC or UGA fan in his mother’s basement says on a board.
we are dealing in performance that's why we are telling you he is a$$.

You chose to not listen to it because he wears a red polo and a g on his hat.

Kirby has Bo Bo running his ofense CLEARLY he doesnt giv e a f*ck....if Mario hired Bo Bo an Sarles i would have personally drive to COral Gables and egg his car.

Searles himself could tell you he is deep fried a$$ n you wont believe it because you done rode uga and Kirby into the sunset.

They didnt even like Searles his previous stint at uga.....and he has a a downward trajectory even next szn as he will be playing new guys in the line up and the guys like Freeling who played last year didnt look good.

https://www.dawgnation.com/football...sitional-turnover/DNNT3FGGBJB3RMP6BZ3CLACCWA/


I dont go on UGA boards at all no reason to...this was just done after u dug your heels in on Stacey Searles and OL is my specialty and i could smell a bad coach from 10 miles away.
 
Ok, Kirby is just another dumbass, good ol boy who hires ****** coaches to oversee his high-end recruits. He wins with great players and overpaid bad coaches. Success is all about recruiting 5-stars and development be damned.
Unbeknownst to Kirby, they didn’t even like Searles in his first Georgia stint. He was so awful Richt hired him again at Miami and Kirby made the horrible, unforced error of hiring him away from UNC and Mack, who previously hired him at Texas.
Guess he’s fooled a ****load of coaches, banked far too many paychecks while managing to put guys in the NFL. So, he’s not Mario/Mirabal - he sucks. Got it.
 
Ok, Kirby is just another dumbass, good ol boy who hires ****** coaches to oversee his high-end recruits. He wins with great players and overpaid bad coaches. Success is all about recruiting 5-stars and development be damned.
Unbeknownst to Kirby, they didn’t even like Searles in his first Georgia stint. He was so awful Richt hired him again at Miami and Kirby made the horrible, unforced error of hiring him away from UNC and Mack, who previously hired him at Texas.
Guess he’s fooled a ****load of coaches, banked far too many paychecks while managing to put guys in the NFL. So, he’s not Mario/Mirabal - he sucks. Got it.

It took you wayyy to long to come around to this take you were beginning to look like a troll.

You said the bolded, Some of the uga fans have said the same as well.

Mike Bobo, Stacey Searles, and the gawwwwddd James Coley......your baby daddy Kirby be stacking them offensive staffs im telling you all GOAT coaches. Just beast after beast there.

30 years ,14 draft picks.
Why are you telling me about what he did at all these places HE SUCKED HERE. RICHT ALSO HIRED HIS SON. I already told you he is a good ol boy coach what more do u want?.You literally just proved my point. lol

i dont know how much he is paid to say if he is overpaid or not as long he is never paid by the univ of miami i am good.

Have you ever seen searles coach in real life or Kirby only let you watch him on tv.. or look up random *** stats.
 
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It took you wayyy to long to come around to this take you were beginning to look like a troll.

You said the bolded, Some of the uga fans have said the same as well.

Mike Bobo, Stacey Searles, and the gawwwwddd James Coley......your baby daddy Kirby be stacking them offensive staffs im telling you all GOAT coaches. Just beast after beast there.

30 years ,14 draft picks.
Why are you telling me about what he did at all these places HE SUCKED HERE. RICHT ALSO HIRED HIS SON. I already told you he is a good ol boy coach what more do u want?.You literally just proved my point. lol

i dont know how much he is paid to say if he is overpaid or not as long he is never paid by the univ of miami i am good.

Have you ever seen searles coach in real life or Kirby only let you watch him on tv.. or look up random *** stats.
You obviously know all, but seems like Kirby has pieced together a decent little juggernaut, playing in meaningful games and stacking championships. NFL GMs seem to like his players, too, but ****, what do they know about development. And he does it all with ****** coaches. But wait, just remembered, he suckered Mario into luring away one his DB coaches. Surprised you didn’t see that ****** coach coming.
 
You obviously know all, but seems like Kirby has pieced together a decent little juggernaut, playing in meaningful games and stacking championships. NFL GMs seem to like his players, too, but ****, what do they know about development. And he does it all with ****** coaches. But wait, just remembered, he suckered Mario into luring away one his DB coaches. Surprised you didn’t see that ****** coach coming.
A wealth of 5 star/high 4star players at your disposal will make the vast majority of coaches look good, not rocket science.
 
Ok, Kirby is just another dumbass, good ol boy who hires ****** coaches to oversee his high-end recruits. He wins with great players and overpaid bad coaches. Success is all about recruiting 5-stars and development be damned.
Unbeknownst to Kirby, they didn’t even like Searles in his first Georgia stint. He was so awful Richt hired him again at Miami and Kirby made the horrible, unforced error of hiring him away from UNC and Mack, who previously hired him at Texas.
Guess he’s fooled a ****load of coaches, banked far too many paychecks while managing to put guys in the NFL. So, he’s not Mario/Mirabal - he sucks. Got it.

@Rellyrell

Trumpycane shows example A of the Searles sucking off
 
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You obviously know all, but seems like Kirby has pieced together a decent little juggernaut, playing in meaningful games and stacking championships. NFL GMs seem to like his players, too, but ****, what do they know about development. And he does it all with ****** coaches. But wait, just remembered, he suckered Mario into luring away one his DB coaches. Surprised you didn’t see that ****** coach coming.
sounds like a team you should root for. why are you here?.



@Memnon

check this one out crashing out behind Stacey Searles.

Kirby Smart is a great recruiter...puts as much funding into recruiting more than any college. A recruiting department that probably had a budget made close to high 6 figures from he got there or atleast randoms in the department making 50k.

Thats a great spot for Searles because he doesnt like recruiting and isnt that good of an evaluator.

I'm not a db guy so didnt pay attention to Addae much...but i know enough about ol to know Searles sucks no matter how much Kirby lets you come up for air to type the bullsh*t u type.

You bringing Mario into the convo being suckered` doesnt do anything to me since i wasnt a Mario guy from the beginning you misjudged me here bro. lol
 
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Bottom line is better players = better results.
There is a reason why bama and uga run through coordinators and position coaches like disposable razors and still win a lot.

There is a reason why the frontrunners hoard 5 stars.
There is a reason why JTaylor said the dolphins had only a few play calls on defense.

You have to get the dudes. Nobody as of yet has shown me a position coach or a team that routinely pumps out first rounders through multiple years from only 3 star talent.

A good argument for example would be comparing Partridge at Pitt to Johnson at Ohio state. Both great dline coaches. Only one of them was lucky enough to get both boss brothers. Only one of them had the luxury of being at a place that paid recruits before it was legal and now they also have a top nil budget.

Stars absolutely matter.

We don’t have Ward back there running the offense. But tvd had some clean fckng pockets too.

So while we may not be trotting out a lot of first rounders at oline after Mario’s 3 years, Mario and Mirabal have shown at the very least that they can protect the qb and run the ball without a room full of top 10 olineman.
 
If Miami loses him it'll be because one plays in the SEC and one doesn't.

There is a clear and tangible divide between the SEC/Big-10 and everyone else.

Pretty good chance every 5-star lands in those conferences. A month ago the pick would've been Miami, but Georgia has been hammering the SEC angle and something not mentioned here a lot is that mom wants him at Georgia. She trained in Georgia for the Olympics and is partial to there.
 
Bottom line is better players = better results.
There is a reason why bama and uga run through coordinators and position coaches like disposable razors and still win a lot.

There is a reason why the frontrunners hoard 5 stars.
There is a reason why JTaylor said the dolphins had only a few play calls on defense.

You have to get the dudes. Nobody as of yet has shown me a position coach or a team that routinely pumps out first rounders through multiple years from only 3 star talent.

A good argument for example would be comparing Partridge at Pitt to Johnson at Ohio state. Both great dline coaches. Only one of them was lucky enough to get both boss brothers. Only one of them had the luxury of being at a place that paid recruits before it was legal and now they also have a top nil budget.

Stars absolutely matter.

We don’t have Ward back there running the offense. But tvd had some clean fckng pockets too.

So while we may not be trotting out a lot of first rounders at oline after Mario’s 3 years, Mario and Mirabal have shown at the very least that they can protect the qb and run the ball without a room full of top 10 olineman.
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The eye test says u would be correct, however, the production test says come to UGA as an OLmen & get drafted. That’s y it doesn’t make sense to argue why player A would to go to school A. Yes NIL is a factor, but there’s end goal is always NFL. NIL $$ runs out if u can’t make it to the league.

Which is y its imperative we change some narratives along the landscape of CFB
True. I won't argue against the draft results itself. Since Saban retired they now can say they recruit the trenches better than anyone.
 
Would JJ Smith any less of a dominant day 1 force @ WR if Brian Hartline wasn't his coach? The answer to that question should shed some light/put perspective on the whole development argument.
 
Searels didn’t get there until 2022. Before that, he had horrible units at UNC and Miami.

He inherited Mims and Jones, elite prospects who ended up getting drafted on raw tools. Mims only started 8 games.

This year, those NFL talents produced the 102nd-ranked rushing game in America and got Beck hurt.

UGA is great. Searels sucks.
Agree D and I think we’re looking at this leak by Georgia all wrong here. A program doesn’t make a leak like that unless they know they’re running behind and I think this is a sign that we’re still out in front in this recruitment. To me a program doesn’t do this unless they’re trying to make up ground in a big way. I believe we land Cantwell next week.
 
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People underestimate how much of a dumpster fire our program was in the years prior to Mario. There isn't an active coach in college football right now that could have taken our program to that level in 3 years.

I could name at least 20 who could get Miami one 10 win season in 3 years without a ACCCG appearance.
 
You obviously know all, but seems like Kirby has pieced together a decent little juggernaut, playing in meaningful games and stacking championships. NFL GMs seem to like his players, too, but ****, what do they know about development. And he does it all with ****** coaches. But wait, just remembered, he suckered Mario into luring away one his DB coaches. Surprised you didn’t see that ****** coach coming.

This is just laughable. First, the UGA fanbase openly talked about how Richt was too much a church boy to allow the bag game to get out of hand and the moment Smart got to Athens, the machine kicked into high gear. That guy was buying players left and right to build the operation he has today. Second, anyone following Miami football for many years will tell you Searels was among the worst position coaches we've seen. Name one guy he recruited or developed while at Miami? You've been on these boards since 2012, so you cannot possibly deny that we were complaining about how bad he was nonstop. Third, @gogeta4 literally coached camps alongside Miami coaches and was able to see Searels operate live multiple times. When he says he's dog****, it's first person validation.
 
It’s not hodgepodge data; its only hodgepodge b/c it doesn’t fit what’s most important:

Who’s producing more NFL talent at this position. That hodgepodge doesn’t fit the cry wolf mantra.

U can’t take one season & say, “see, we’re better.” That’s why u have to provide alllllllll data, & the data shows the program in Athens, GA in only 9 seasons have produced more NFL OLman than Mario & Alex’s entire career, combined. That’s not cherry picking, that’s actual & factual. The data shows that even as handicapped as Searels is, he’s still produced more NFL OLman than Alex Mirabal, even removing his current UGA stint.

Recruiting is a sales job; the sales job & the sales job right now says UGA is grossly outperforming Miami regarding NFL OL draft picks. No one gives af about stats in recruiting besides wins & who’s getting me to the NFL. That’s it.
@DMoney two things in this situation are true. Searles is a bad OL coach. UGA brings in the best talent, that talent goes to the NFL. @Rellyrell is 100% right UGA is not only a better program but also has a far superior track record to Miami on putting OL into the league.

Unfortunate they couldn’t get it over the line.
 
If Miami loses him it'll be because one plays in the SEC and one doesn't.

There is a clear and tangible divide between the SEC/Big-10 and everyone else.

Pretty good chance every 5-star lands in those conferences. A month ago the pick would've been Miami, but Georgia has been hammering the SEC angle and something not mentioned here a lot is that mom wants him at Georgia. She trained in Georgia for the Olympics and is partial to there.
There were 37 composite 5* in the 2024. The SEC/B1G signed 31/37.

There were 32 in the 2025 class. The SEC/B1G signed 30/32. Notre Dame got one, Clemson got the other.

There are 30 in the 2026 class, with 12 already committed. The SEC/B1G is 11/12 so far.
 
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