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This assumes, arguendo, that Gator fans know how to use the interwebz for shopping...

Never assume Gator intelligence on Gator Tears...
 
TheOriginalCane said:
This is the absolute BULL**** of Jon Sumrall.

He "PROBABLY" carried a Glock around on his hip.

So, first of all, California is not an open-carry state, or at least it was not so at the time of this alleged (bull****) story. Perhaps Sumrall is confessing to a crime because the statute of limitations has passed, or to build up his street cred. Whatever. All I know is that the University of San Diego is not located anywhere near the mean streets of South Central (as USC is). It's freakin' right next door to Sea World.

Second, I highly doubt the claim of making "less than 20K a year" at USD. Maybe that was his salary as a GA at Kentucky. But in his first paid coaching job, he worked at USD form 2007 to 2011. Before becoming the ASSISTANT HEAD COACH/DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR, he was the DL coach AND the Recruiting Coordinator. Usually when you get TWO job designations, it is BECAUSE the university wants to justify paying you more money. Now, I get that USD is a Division I-AA school, and not as wealthy as SDSU across town. But I find it hard to believe that a college football coach doing TWO JOBS was making under $20K, even at an FCS school. And for the record, USD was a WINNING program in I-AA, the head coach right before Sumrall was hired was a guy by the name of Jim Harbaugh. Who went 11-1 the prior TWO years before Sumrall was hired.

Third, and this is where it gets really interesting, Sumrall has SPECIFIC knowledge of the type of gun (a Glock) but expresses uncertainty as to whether he wore it on his hip every night ("probably"). Highly unconvincing, and the typical evidence of a bull****ter (use of the word "probably" to describe an otherwise highly-specific factual claim).

Finally, and we'll just leave this one here, he claims he is "not in it for the money". Because he was not paid a lot IN HIS FIRST PAID JOB. But, hey, maybe he could see a FUTURE of "money". After all, the guy who was the USD HEAD COACH right before Sumrall took the USD job...went on to have THESE next 4 jobs: Head Coach at Stanford, Head Coach at San Francisco 49ers, Head Coach at Michigan, Head Coach at San Diego Chargers. So, you know, I don't know, maybe Sumrall knew he would EVENTUALLY be paid a lot more than "less than 20K per year". Maybe that's what caused him to coach at SIX DIFFERENT SCHOOLS in the past 10 seasons. After all, we can't expect him to take pay cuts at any of those six different schools, right?

Jon Sumrall is a world-class bull****ter. He may be fooling the Gator recruits for now. But over time, truth wins out.
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Carrying a Glock doesn’t mean “open carry”. Concealed carry is legal with appropriate license in cali
 
TheOriginalCane said:
This is the absolute BULL**** of Jon Sumrall.

He "PROBABLY" carried a Glock around on his hip.

So, first of all, California is not an open-carry state, or at least it was not so at the time of this alleged (bull****) story. Perhaps Sumrall is confessing to a crime because the statute of limitations has passed, or to build up his street cred. Whatever. All I know is that the University of San Diego is not located anywhere near the mean streets of South Central (as USC is). It's freakin' right next door to Sea World.
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404Usernamenotfound said:
Carrying a Glock doesn’t mean “open carry”. Concealed carry is legal with appropriate license in cali
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How about you go **** off with this nonsense. You're responding to people with law degrees who understand the laws, not to some slobbering dip**** like Jon Sumrall.

First, most of my post was sarcastic/humorous and was directed to Sumrall acting like he's some sort of a bad-***, carrying a Glock "on his hip" (his words, not mine). Perhaps you should focus on critiquing Sumrall's words.

Second, Sumrall is complaining about how he didn't have two nickels to rub together in San Diego, not to mention the fact that he had just moved there from Kentucky. If you think some transient redneck with no money and no future (he "isn't in it for the money") actually has the cash/time/attention to spend on (a) a Glock, (b) legal advice, and/or (c) a license, then you are welcome to assume that Jon Sumrall was in full and complete legal compliance with the laws of California.
 
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404Usernamenotfound said:
Carrying a Glock doesn’t mean “open carry”. Concealed carry is legal with appropriate license in cali
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TheOriginalCane said:
How about you go **** off with this nonsense. You're responding to people with law degrees who understand the laws, not to some slobbering dip**** like Jon Sumrall.

First, most of my post was sarcastic/humorous and was directed to Sumrall acting like he's some sort of a bad-***, carrying a Glock "on his hip" (his words, not mine). Perhaps you should focus on critiquing Sumrall's words.

Second, Sumrall is complaining about how he didn't have two nickels to rub together in San Diego, not to mention the fact that he had just moved there from Kentucky. If you think some transient redneck with no money and no future (he "isn't in it for the money) actually has the cash/time/attention to spend on (a) a Glock, (b) legal advice, and/or (c) a license, then you are welcome to assume that Jon Sumrall was in full and complete legal compliance with the laws of California.
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I'll just say that "on his hip" wouldn't have been concealed. Appendix carry or small of the back is concealed.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
How about you go **** off with this nonsense. You're responding to people with law degrees who understand the laws, not to some slobbering dip**** like Jon Sumrall.

First, most of my post was sarcastic/humorous and was directed to Sumrall acting like he's some sort of a bad-***, carrying a Glock "on his hip" (his words, not mine). Perhaps you should focus on critiquing Sumrall's words.

Second, Sumrall is complaining about how he didn't have two nickels to rub together in San Diego, not to mention the fact that he had just moved there from Kentucky. If you think some transient redneck with no money and no future (he "isn't in it for the money) actually has the cash/time/attention to spend on (a) a Glock, (b) legal advice, and/or (c) a license, then you are welcome to assume that Jon Sumrall was in full and complete legal compliance with the laws of California.
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Why are you so confrontational all the time? Good lord I’m simply stating a fact about open carry vs concealed. I wasn’t defending this guy nor was I attacking the rest of your post.

wtf does your degree have to do with what I said? Should I bring up my “engineering degree” if I have a disagreement about change at the fast food counter? Sure wish i had a penny for every time you mentioned your “degree”

My firearm collection is valued in 6 figures, should I bring that up like a douche too? Or are only “lawyers” (who probably shot a rifle once in their life) allowed to have an opinion on firearms?

I’m very well versed when it comes to 2a laws, and unless you’re 2a attorney I’m likely much more educated on this topic than you.

I already know you are going to respond with some long rant (that I’m not going to read) because you aren’t emotionally able to let anything go (because you’re insecure). What you should do is either a) not respond, or b) just say “hey man youre right, you could conceal carry legally in cali so he probably meant that”
 
404Usernamenotfound said:
I carry every single day. “On my hip” doesn’t mean open carry. There’s a difference
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Annnnnnd, good for you.

Nobody was trying to get into a technical discussion of the law, we were addressing Sumrall's fake-bad-*** schtick.

Again, did he have a license? He never said he did, and you've spent multiple posts assuming he did. Be honest and admit that Sumrall just swaggered into some bull**** about walking around in a nice part of San Diego with a Glock "on his hip".

Chill out and save the Second Amendment condescension for The Town Hall.
 
I suspect Sumrall threw in the Glock comment simply because he’s living out his SEC coach fantasy, which in his short-sighted mind means he now drives a Chevy Silverado, chews tobacco, and loves the 2nd Amendment. He’s pandering to what he thinks his base wants, and that’s all.

No need for it to produce Cane-on-Cane fighting.
 
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404Usernamenotfound said:
Why are you so confrontational all the time? Good lord I’m simply stating a fact about open carry vs concealed. I wasn’t defending this guy nor was I attacking the rest of your post.

wtf does your degree have to do with what I said? Should I bring up my “engineering degree” if I have a disagreement about change at the fast food counter? Sure wish i had a penny for every time you mentioned your “degree”

My firearm collection is valued in 6 figures, should I bring that up like a douche too? Or are only “lawyers” (who probably shot a rifle once in their life) allowed to have an opinion on firearms?

I’m very well versed when it comes to 2a laws, and unless you’re 2a attorney I’m likely much more educated on this topic than you.

I already know you are going to respond with some long rant (that I’m not going to read) because you aren’t emotionally able to let anything go (because you’re insecure). What you should do is either a) not respond, or b) just say “hey man youre right, you could conceal carry legally in cali so he probably meant that”
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Feel free to make any assumptions you'd like.

The reason I got confrontational WITH YOU is because this is a Gator Tears thread and not The Town Hall. We make fun of Gators and Gator fans here. I didn't say "defer to me because I have a law degree", I said you are talking to lawyers AND NOT A SLOBBERING DIP**** LIKE JON SUMRALL. Which does not mean what you took it to mean. It means "save your speeches for Jon Sumrall, he's the guy who doesn't understand".

Congratulations on the valuation of your firearms collection. Clearly you have assumed that I have none of my own, and that's fine (and incorrect). But I'd also say that my brother is in your same "valuation" category, as he uses guns for his business and for personal reasons (hunting). I'm familar with the issues and have assisted him in some of his state-by-state compliance. But thanks for referring to me as "lay". If you think you're more educated on the subject than myself, that's up to you.

And, no, I'm not going to say that "you could conceal carry legally in California so he probably meant that" when even you know that Sumrall didn't mean that.
 
caneingville said:
I suspect Sumrall threw in the Glock comment simply because he’s living out his SEC coach fantasy, which in his short-sighted mind means he now drives a Chevy Silverado, chews tobacco, and loves the 2nd Amendment. He’s pandering to what he thinks his base wants, and that’s all.

No need for it to produce Cane-on-Cane fighting.
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