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GojiraCane said:
Ideally he should never have been allowed to get beyond 330 lbs. He’s not eight feet tall - that’s too much weight for his frame. By letting him get to that size, Florida appeared to show just how much they value the health and well being of their athletes as human beings. Keeping at a healthy weight should have been a condition to seeing the field and ultimately his scholarship.
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330???

He came into UF probably 50-60lbs heavier than that. He probably hasn’t weighed 330 since 8-9th grade. But yes, I agree UF didn’t appear to do much to help him get to a reasonable weight.
 
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JamesQuall said:
330???

He came into UF probably 50-60lbs heavier than that. He probably hasn’t weighed 330 since 8-9th grade. But yes, I agree UF didn’t appear to do much to help him get to a reasonable weight.
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Didn't know that.

But that should have been roughly the target from the get-go. To allow him to play his entire career well above that was a complete disservice to the health of that player. It makes them complete mercenaries and cut throat.

Again, there was a simple solution. Florida tied his seeing the field to hitting a weight target. And if he continued to miss, his scholarship would be contingent upon it. Unless there was an underlying condition, at which point he should not have been playing football to begin with.
 
Living in Gainesville I hear the Kool-Aid 24/7 and let me tell you they’re absolutely sold on Lagway. More so than that they are sold on their OL/WR room each being top 10 nationally (which I don’t buy it at whatsoever idc what PFF says)

Napier is a worse coach than Mario lol he is 3-9 on the road since 2022 (3-12 if you wanna count UGA as a road game) on the Flip side Mario is 13-7 at home & in 23’ & 24’ he’s went a combined 11-2.

We may not have Ward but Beck will be between Ward and TVD and to be honest I think a really good comparison would be 2020 D’Eriq King (just from an impact standpoint not from a similarities standpoint)

Not to mention our OL is better this year, the only thing is how proven our Skill position production is. We saw glimpses of what Lofton, Lyle & Trader are capable of, Mark Fletcher gets a whole offseason and already averaged 5.5 yards per carry on 110 Carries, CharMar is going to be an interesting one as he won the Jerry Rice award last year with 1300+ yards

Bauman/Schott will be huge for us, HOW we utilize them I think we will directly impact the success of the offense the most imo. Beck loves his TEs and those are 2 big bodies for him.

Napier’s scheme is not QB friendly, his playcalling isn’t even offensively friendly it’s just offensive to watch. If the UF defense didn’t COMPLETELY change the way they played in the last half of the season we wouldn’t be talking about any Lagway hype LMAO

I’m still more confident that Mario will get 2 W’s against ND & UF then I am that we will not stumble against a random *** ACC team, @VT & @Pitt to end the year will give me WW2 type PTSD I just know it
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
LMFAOOOOOOOO

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers actually drafted this tub of goo

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Buccaneers place 449-pound rookie Desmond Watson on NFI list due to weight

Watson has been working hard to lose weight, but Tampa Bay needs him to lose more
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Desmond Fatson, the gift that keeps on giving
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'Worked hard' to lose 14 pounds since April??? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

What bull****... you gotta work hard to KEEP that much weight on at 450lbs! When you weigh as much as a rhino, the pounds come off in dozens with just a modicum of moderation.
 
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StevoBevo said:
Living in Gainesville I hear the Kool-Aid 24/7 and let me tell you they’re absolutely sold on Lagway. More so than that they are sold on their OL/WR room each being top 10 nationally (which I don’t buy it at whatsoever idc what PFF says)

Napier is a worse coach than Mario lol he is 3-9 on the road since 2022 (3-12 if you wanna count UGA as a road game) on the Flip side Mario is 13-7 at home & in 23’ & 24’ he’s went a combined 11-2.

We may not have Ward but Beck will be between Ward and TVD and to be honest I think a really good comparison would be 2020 D’Eriq King (just from an impact standpoint not from a similarities standpoint)

Not to mention our OL is better this year, the only thing is how proven our Skill position production is. We saw glimpses of what Lofton, Lyle & Trader are capable of, Mark Fletcher gets a whole offseason and already averaged 5.5 yards per carry on 110 Carries, CharMar is going to be an interesting one as he won the Jerry Rice award last year with 1300+ yards

Bauman/Schott will be huge for us, HOW we utilize them I think we will directly impact the success of the offense the most imo. Beck loves his TEs and those are 2 big bodies for him.

Napier’s scheme is not QB friendly, his playcalling isn’t even offensively friendly it’s just offensive to watch. If the UF defense didn’t COMPLETELY change the way they played in the last half of the season we wouldn’t be talking about any Lagway hype LMAO

I’m still more confident that Mario will get 2 W’s against ND & UF then I am that we will not stumble against a random *** ACC team, @VT & @Pitt to end the year will give me WW2 type PTSD I just know it
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To be honest, I don’t think either of them are great pure football coaches. I do think Mario is a better recruiter and leader, which helps mask some of his coaching flaws. The good thing is, you don’t always have to be an elite football coach to be a successful head coach. Sometimes, being a strong leader who can recruit, delegate, and hire a solid staff is enough—and I think that’s what Mario is.

If these guys were judged solely on their ability to coach football, I think Mario would be an offensive line coach at Texas, Georgia, or another top-tier program. Napier? He’d probably be a wide receivers coach at South Carolina or somewhere like that.
 
StevoBevo said:
I’m still more confident that Mario will get 2 W’s against ND & UF then I am that we will not stumble against a random *** ACC team, @VT & @Pitt to end the year will give me WW2 type PTSD I just know it
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Hard to win 12 in a row, especially 7 without a bye week. Just get to 4-0 in out of conference play. Hopefully, by then, we've shrugged off last season's debacle on defense and are firing on all cylinders.
 
I will probably get a lot of hate but I’d rather beat ND & UF and lose 2 ACC games, I actually won’t be surprised to see us go 8-0 at home but 2-2 on the road anddd I don’t expect us to lose @FSU. So KNOWING Mario and Miami I will have to say that we most likely will lose @SMU and 1 of @VT and @PITT and tbh if that happens we MIGHT miss the ACC championship but we are in for the CFP.

In this Scenario we’d have wins Vs ND/UF/Louisville/Syracuse, 1 of @VT or @Pitt + @FSU and I’d be more than okay with that considering the last 20 years
 
StevoBevo said:
I will probably get a lot of hate but I’d rather beat ND & UF and lose 2 ACC games, I actually won’t be surprised to see us go 8-0 at home but 2-2 on the road anddd I don’t expect us to lose @FSU. So KNOWING Mario and Miami I will have to say that we most likely will lose @SMU and 1 of @VT and @PITT and tbh if that happens we MIGHT miss the ACC championship but we are in for the CFP.

In this Scenario we’d have wins Vs ND/UF/Louisville/Syracuse, 1 of @VT or @Pitt + @FSU and I’d be more than okay with that considering the last 20 years
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Wouldn't be mad at this as long as we annihilate Cuse and beat FSU. 10-2 with a chance for the ACC title would be nice. Prefer to beat everyone but I'm a realist.
 
JamesQuall said:
Statistically*

Which is technically correct if you look at total defense. However, statistics do not tell the whole story and can be used to tell just about any story you want. You can also cherry pick to make insane arguments.
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I got it. But what about specifically the 6 games Lagway started? My point is it’s retarded to compare an entire seasons statistics for one guy that played an entire season vs one that played half. I don’t even have to look at the stats to know that UFs defense was lights out those games. We couldn’t stop anything, literally anything, the second half of the season.
 
CanesFan20 said:
To be honest, I don’t think either of them are great pure football coaches. I do think Mario is a better recruiter and leader, which helps mask some of his coaching flaws. The good thing is, you don’t always have to be an elite football coach to be a successful head coach. Sometimes, being a strong leader who can recruit, delegate, and hire a solid staff is enough—and I think that’s what Mario is.

If these guys were judged solely on their ability to coach football, I think Mario would be an offensive line coach at Texas, Georgia, or another top-tier program. Napier? He’d probably be a wide receivers coach at South Carolina or somewhere like that.
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Napier’s development continues to be an issue too. It’s not just S&C issues like this Bucs kid. There have been multiple players that transferred out of UF that then spoke publicly about how they were finally getting real coaching and development from their new schools that they had missed out on under Billy and his staff. It’s a huge problem. He should not be a coach at this level, or possibly not even a head coach.
 
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StevoBevo said:
I will probably get a lot of hate but I’d rather beat ND & UF and lose 2 ACC games, I actually won’t be surprised to see us go 8-0 at home but 2-2 on the road anddd I don’t expect us to lose @FSU. So KNOWING Mario and Miami I will have to say that we most likely will lose @SMU and 1 of @VT and @PITT and tbh if that happens we MIGHT miss the ACC championship but we are in for the CFP.

In this Scenario we’d have wins Vs ND/UF/Louisville/Syracuse, 1 of @VT or @Pitt + @FSU and I’d be more than okay with that considering the last 20 years
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What matters is getting to the ACCCG, and hopefully winning. If your preferred scenario doesn't bring us that it hurts the program more both short & long term.
 
Damiencane86 said:
What matters is getting to the ACCCG, and hopefully winning. If your preferred scenario doesn't bring us that it hurts the program more both short & long term.
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Then we’ll hear that Mario can’t win the big games. He’ll get negatively recruited either way.

This is a ridiculous hypothetical argument. The team is going to try to win them all.
 
mirvin88 said:
I got it. But what about specifically the 6 games Lagway started? My point is it’s retarded to compare an entire seasons statistics for one guy that played an entire season vs one that played half. I don’t even have to look at the stats to know that UFs defense was lights out those games. We couldn’t stop anything, literally anything, the second half of the season.
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Brother, I agree. Don’t even get me started on the morons I’ve seen on this board that said “our defense wasn’t that bad! It was Cam/Dawson/the offense’s fault! Here look at the stats show we were a top 30 defense.” **** is infuriating to read.
 
DTP said:
We’ve already discussed how DJ has a 9/9 TD/INT ratio against Division 1 opponents. But if you look at him on a game by game basis, the more he has to throw the ball, the worse he is. His most efficient games were all games where he either split time with Mertz or was not asked to throw the ball more than 20 times. He only had one game against an FBS opponent in which he threw more than 10 passes without an interception. He was already a sub 60% passer but his completion percentage is inflated by Samford, going 7/7 against Mississippi State and going 4/4 against UCF. When they actually relied on him to throw the ball, he was not only inaccurate, he threw interceptions
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With our MUCH improved DB’s back there I’d bet on 3 picks and 1 of them to the house…if we can step out to a 14 -21 point lead early….ok WHEN we step out to a 14-21 point lead and put them in a catch up mode where he has to pass 30+ times it will be one glorious day and all the DJ hype will be O-VER…
 
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