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flagator86 said:
How accurate was Josh Allen coming outta college?
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Not everyone’s Josh Allen. Most with AR’s attributes are more likely to be Jamarcus Russell than Josh Allen.

If I’m a GM and I draft him, it’s only late - like 7th round or Free Agent - to see if the coaches can do anything with him and his accuracy over time. He’s not a near top round pick if you’re a GM who values his job. That’s career Russian Roulette.
 
RVACane said:
Not everyone’s Josh Allen. Most with AR’s attributes are more likely to be Jamarcus Russell than Josh Allen.

If I’m a GM and I draft him, it’s only late - like 7th round or Free Agent - to see if the coaches can do anything with him. He’s not a near too round puck if you’re a GM who values his job.
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Oh don't think I think he's a 1st-3rd round QB today because I feel he's no where close to that lol.
 
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786Cane said:
He's Boom or Bust and I'd bet on the latter!
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Me too….

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Eh. Too bad both teams couldn’t lose but would’ve been better to have a gator win. 9-3 is a little too successful for Mike. He prob won’t parlay it into the recruiting success you need to win a trophy, but it helps. Blowing it to the gator would’ve been better for us but yeah it obviously hurts sun belt bill.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Eh. Too bad both teams couldn’t lose but would’ve been better to have a gator win. 9-3 is a little too successful for Mike. He prob won’t parlay it into the recruiting success you need to win a trophy, but it helps. Blowing it to the gator would’ve been better for us but yeah it obviously hurts sun belt bill.
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You’re in the wrong thread man. Nole Tears is where you want to be.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Eh. Too bad both teams couldn’t lose but would’ve been better to have a gator win. 9-3 is a little too successful for Mike. He prob won’t parlay it into the recruiting success you need to win a trophy, but it helps. Blowing it to the gator would’ve been better for us but yeah it obviously hurts sun belt bill.
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I understand where your head is at, but here's why I slightly disagree.

This is Memphis Mike's ceiling. He's a pretty decent offensive mind that relies heavily on misdirection and eye candy. He's been a very good portal evaluator over the years, and especially hit the trifecta with Benson, Johnny Wilson, and Verse. They're all probably going pro. Travis might have played himself into an early Day 3/maybe late Day 2 pick with his raw athleticism. Not saying he'll go pro, but there's at least some discussion now.

Like you said, Memphis Mike probably won't parlay this season's success in regards to a successful recruiting class. He just isn't a phenomenal recruiter. They'll have to hit a slam dunk in the portal once again, only this time...there will be A LOT more interest in portal guys than ever before (in terms of national talent acquisition). Furthermore, NIL is going to be at the forefront of said portal hunting, and we all know FSU isn't currently in a position to compete financially with the likes of other programs that desperately need an infusion of talented football players (Miami, Auburn, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Tennessee, UF, USC, Texas A&M, LSU, Texas, etc.). I expect regression from them next year - especially after potentially losing your top WR, top RB, olinemen, top pass rusher, etc. They'd have to hit a slam dunk on a ton more evals.

Billy also has a bit of a QB issue on his hands. Richardson ain't going pro, and we know the Rashada camp is quite impatient. Let's see what happens when Richardson starts again next season...that is, if Rashada ever makes it to campus (hint = 🚂 needs a QB at his new home, wonder who he might look to...)

I'm not too worried about FSU. I'd rather UF be mired in mediocrity and get impatient again. We're going toe-to-toe with them for most of our recruits right now, not FSU.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I understand where your head is at, but here's why I slightly disagree.

This is Memphis Mike's ceiling. He's a pretty decent offensive mind that relies heavily on misdirection and eye candy. He's been a very good portal evaluator over the years, and especially hit the trifecta with Benson, Johnny Wilson, and Verse. They're all probably going pro. Travis might have played himself into an early Day 3/maybe late Day 2 pick with his raw athleticism. Not saying he'll go pro, but there's at least some discussion now.

Like you said, Memphis Mike probably won't parlay this season's success in regards to a successful recruiting class. He just isn't a phenomenal recruiter. They'll have to hit a slam dunk in the portal once again, only this time...there will be A LOT more interest in portal guys than ever before (in terms of national talent acquisition). Furthermore, NIL is going to be at the forefront of said portal hunting, and we all know FSU isn't currently in a position to compete financially with the likes of other programs that desperately need an infusion of talented football players (Miami, Auburn, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Tennessee, UF, USC, Texas A&M, LSU, Texas, etc.). I expect regression from them next year - especially after potentially losing your top WR, top RB, olinemen, top pass rusher, etc. They'd have to hit a slam dunk on a ton more evals.

Billy also has a bit of a QB issue on his hands. Richardson ain't going pro, and we know the Rashada camp is quite impatient. Let's see what happens when Richardson starts again next season...that is, if Rashada ever makes it to campus (hint = 🚂 needs a QB at his new home, wonder who he might look to...)

I'm not too worried about FSU. I'd rather UF be mired in mediocrity and get impatient again. We're going toe-to-toe with them for most of our recruits right now, not FSU.
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If Rashada bounced to Ole Miss that would be glorious. Ole Miss would need a big bag. I know there’s money there. How much I don’t know.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I understand where your head is at, but here's why I slightly disagree.

This is Memphis Mike's ceiling. He's a pretty decent offensive mind that relies heavily on misdirection and eye candy. He's been a very good portal evaluator over the years, and especially hit the trifecta with Benson, Johnny Wilson, and Verse this season. They're all probably going pro. Travis might have played himself into an early Day 3/maybe late Day 2 pick with his raw athleticism. Not saying he'll go pro, but there's at least some discussion now.

Like you said, Memphis Mike probably won't parlay this season's success in regards to a successful recruiting class. He just isn't a phenomenal recruiter. They'll have to hit a slam dunk in the portal once again, only this time...there will be A LOT more interest in portal guys than ever before (in terms of national talent acquisition). Furthermore, NIL is going to be at the forefront of said portal hunting, and we all know FSU isn't currently in a position to compete financially with the likes of other programs that desperately need an infusion of talented football players (Miami, Auburn, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Tennessee, UF, USC, Texas A&M, LSU, Texas, etc.). I expect regression from them next year - especially after potentially losing your top WR, top RB, olinemen, top pass rusher, etc. They'd have to hit a slam dunk on a ton more evals.

Billy also has a bit of a QB issue on his hands. Richardson ain't going pro, and we know the Rashada camp is quite impatient. Let's see what happens when Richardson starts again next season...that is, if Rashada ever makes it to campus (hint = 🚂 needs a QB at his new home, wonder who he might look to...)

I'm not too worried about FSU. I'd rather UF be mired in mediocrity and get impatient again. We're going toe-to-toe with them for most of our recruits right now, not FSU.
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Can’t disagree with any of this. Excellent intelligent post. The only thing I’ll say is that I said about 50x I the nole tears thread that 7-5 or maybe 8-4 for fsu is best case for us because it’ll give fsu fans hope, they’ll keep Mike for the source of “progress”, but he won’t recruit for **** and it’ll be wash, rinse, repeat. But 9-3 starts to turn that just a little bit. They flipped Glenn. They have Keem (for now). They’re pushing for Baxter. 9-3 can give him some momentum on the trail. Let’s see if he capitalizes on it, but yeah I think you’re right, he won’t and this is his ceiling. Exact same thing I’ve been saying for a couple years now.
 
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