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RVACane said:
Yeah. The coaches put em at 19.
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I totally bought the hype of Utah and was legit shocked that the gata was even in the game.

So I started thinking about how this hype came about. Was it even legit? Cause we all know the gates are garbage.

Basically Utah was just decent last year when you look at the entire body of work. They had two great wins against a perceived contender in Oregon and a close fought loss to a perceived elite in OSU. They had some real ****show performances too earlier in the season.

The Oregon wins were solid but it was the tight bowl game with OSU that gave them the lofty ranking.

So how good was OSU actually? They just put up a solid performance against a perennially overrated ND team. Not terribly impressive despite being touted as a top 3 team with a "generational" offense.

What was their cred last year besides putting up video game numbers against overmatched big ten schools? Their marquee win was an utter dismantling of a good Michigan State team. Beyond that victory few of their good wins were in dominant fashion and they lost to the two best teams they played. Including a loss to Oregon at home.

Here's the kicker. Michigan was demolished by UGA in the cfp and then Oregon just got bodied by them to start the season.

Seems OSU got lucky they missed the cfp or else they would have been dragged on national TV by UGA or Bama.

All this is to say my conclusion is Utah is just a solid 8+ win team who got pumped up through the transitive property being applied using a massively overated OSU team as justification. I believe when it all shakes out the buckeyes lose 2 games this season and if they they sneak into the playoff theyll get smoked by whomever they play. Obviously that also means the gata will be exposed as average in the not too distant future.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
I totally bought the hype of Utah and was legit shocked that the gata was even in the game.

So I started thinking about how this hype came about. Was it even legit? Cause we all know the gates are garbage.

Basically Utah was just decent last year when you look at the entire body of work. They had two great wins against a perceived contender in Oregon and a close fought loss to a perceived elite in OSU. They had some real ****show performances too earlier in the season.

The Oregon wins were solid but it was the tight bowl game with OSU that gave them the lofty ranking.

So how good was OSU actually? They just put up a solid performance against a perennially overrated ND team. Not terribly impressive despite being touted as a top 3 team with a "generational" offense.

What was their cred last year besides putting up video game numbers against overmatched big ten schools? Their marquee win was an utter dismantling of a good Michigan State team. Beyond that victory few of their good wins were in dominant fashion and they lost to the two best teams they played. Including a loss to Oregon at home.

Here's the kicker. Michigan was demolished by UGA in the cfp and then Oregon just got bodied by them to start the season.

Seems OSU got lucky they missed the cfp or else they would have been dragged on national TV by UGA or Bama.

All this is to say my conclusion is Utah is just a solid 8+ win team who got pumped up through the transitive property being applied using a massively overated OSU team as justification. I believe when it all shakes out the buckeyes lose 2 games this season and if they they sneak into the playoff theyll get smoked by whomever they play. Obviously that also means the gata will be exposed as average in the not too distant future.
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They’re pumped up right now but I think we all see problems. The gator has no depth on the LOS, no depth at QB if Richardson gets hurt, no TE’s, no WRs beyond Pearsall, no LB depth and even then nothing special in the starting group. Maybe Ventrell Miller??? Solid at CB. Solid enough at RB but not stellar. Etienne looks good as a Freshman. Injuries will knock them down quickly. That SEC schedule will be grueling.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
I totally bought the hype of Utah and was legit shocked that the gata was even in the game.

So I started thinking about how this hype came about. Was it even legit? Cause we all know the gates are garbage.

Basically Utah was just decent last year when you look at the entire body of work. They had two great wins against a perceived contender in Oregon and a close fought loss to a perceived elite in OSU. They had some real ****show performances too earlier in the season.

The Oregon wins were solid but it was the tight bowl game with OSU that gave them the lofty ranking.

So how good was OSU actually? They just put up a solid performance against a perennially overrated ND team. Not terribly impressive despite being touted as a top 3 team with a "generational" offense.

What was their cred last year besides putting up video game numbers against overmatched big ten schools? Their marquee win was an utter dismantling of a good Michigan State team. Beyond that victory few of their good wins were in dominant fashion and they lost to the two best teams they played. Including a loss to Oregon at home.

Here's the kicker. Michigan was demolished by UGA in the cfp and then Oregon just got bodied by them to start the season.

Seems OSU got lucky they missed the cfp or else they would have been dragged on national TV by UGA or Bama.

All this is to say my conclusion is Utah is just a solid 8+ win team who got pumped up through the transitive property being applied using a massively overated OSU team as justification. I believe when it all shakes out the buckeyes lose 2 games this season and if they they sneak into the playoff theyll get smoked by whomever they play. Obviously that also means the gata will be exposed as average in the not too distant future.
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It was a taint team that didn’t have olave and Wilson also as they didn’t play the bowl game
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
Its SEC bias at its best. They jumped up 26 spots. An argument can be made for the top 25. But not up to 12th from 38th after week one.

They didn't exactly dominate Utah either. To move up that high, it should've taken a win over Bama, UGA or OSU. Or at least a road/neutral site win by more than the squeaker they won it by. For all anyone knows Utah might not be any good. It won't matter if they go 6-6 because UF already got a bump from beating them. But they sure as fck won't be dropped if that Utah win turns out to be hollow.

No other conference's teams gets this kinda treatment.
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I wasn’t a big computer poll guy, but that’s the 1 (and only) element that I did like about the system.
Each week there was a recalculation based on past opponents games.
Theroretically, a ranked team could be idle, and if all of there previous opponents lost that week, they would drop in the rankings.

With the human poll, that’s all forgotten week to week. It’s a lazy process.
Either move up or down based on what happened that week.
However, the CFBPO committee seems to review the entire season.

All this being said, Dump the polls till mid October when there’s some actual data to input to make an informed decision.
 
JD08 said:
Gators suck. There's really nothing more to say.
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theribdoctor said:
A Gaytor friend of mine said the following:

"This Gators team is one Anthony Richardson injury away from being a bottom of the barrel team in the SEC East. Even then, someone needs to tell him he doesn't need to rocket every single ball. Defense needs work, receivers are bad."
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So your friend has eyeballs that function properly.
 
MikeCane18 said:
So your friend has eyeballs that function properly.
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yup unusual for the Gaytors...although my niece texted me immediately after the game saying how I was wrong the Utah would stomp them.

her exact text was; "PROVEN WRONG" 3 middle finger emojis, and go swamp lizards(not what she said)
I only responded with nice game.
 
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Because I was driving back from the UM game, I had the chance to listen to the Utah radio feed on SiriusXM. It was nice, because those announcers were sober and balanced and logical, unlike the Gaytor announcers.

There's no other way around it. Whittingham coached a terrible, conservative game. The Utah announcers were nearly speechless on AR-15's ONE GOOD PLAY (the 45 yard run). They correctly pointed out that Whittingham should have challenged the spot on the Cam Rising run, and NOT the subsequent play. And the 2 point conversion was unnecessary and risky given how much time was on the clock.

Over and over again, when the Gaytors' D was ripe to be exploited, Utah ran a safe running play. They had a massive edge when using multiple TEs for passing plays, yet look at the output.

Also, look at the Gaytors' four scoring drives. TDs 1, 2, and 4 were largely the product of AR-15 running and/or passing the ball. It wasn't until the 4th quarter that a Gaytor RB went for more than 6 yards on a scoring drive. TD 3 was dominated by Montrell Johnson, and Etienne had one good 21 yard run on TD 4. Once AR-15 has to try to replicate that kind of production against SEC defenses, he will hit the wall, or the emergency room.

Look, no Gaytor is going to admit it, but we all know why Oregon lost to Utah twice last year. They knew that Mario was gone. Utah is a very good team whose ceiling is at 9 or 10 wins max, and Whittingham KILLED their chances in Hogtown with his conservative game-plan.

Can't wait to see how Stoops handles the Gaytors.
 
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I think Kentucky has just enough offense to win a lot of games but I have to believe their goal will be to hit Richardson over and over early and often and make him feel like he has played 4 quarters by half time.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Because I was driving back from the UM game, I had the chance to listen to the Utah radio feed on SiriusXM. It was nice, because those announcers were sober and balanced and logical, unlike the Gaytor announcers.

There's no other way around it. Whittingham coached a terrible, conservative game. The Utah announcers were nearly speechless on AR-15's ONE GOOD PLAY (the 45 yard run). They correctly pointed out that Whittingham should have challenged the spot on the Cam Rising run, and NOT the subsequent play. And the 2 point conversion was unnecessary and risky given how much time was on the clock.

Over and over again, when the Gaytors' D was ripe to be exploited, Utah ran a safe running play. They had a massive edge when using multiple TEs for passing plays, yet look at the output.

Also, look at the Gaytors' four scoring drives. TDs 1, 2, and 4 were largely the product of AR-15 running and/or passing the ball. It wasn't until the 4th quarter that a Gaytor RB went for more than 6 yards on a scoring drive. TD 3 was dominated by Montrell Johnson, and Etienne had one good 21 yard run on TD 4. Once AR-15 has to try to replicate that kind of production against SEC defenses, he will hit the wall, or the emergency room.

Look, no Gaytor is going to admit it, but we all know why Oregon lost to Utah twice last year. They knew that Mario was gone. Utah is a very good team whose ceiling is at 9 or 10 wins max, and Whittingham KILLED their chances in Hogtown with his conservative game-plan.

Can't wait to see how Stoops handles the Gaytors.
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Watching the game it’s easy to see how weak the middle of their defense is. Their LB play is horrendous.
 
NJshoreCane said:
I wasn’t a big computer poll guy, but that’s the 1 (and only) element that I did like about the system.
Each week there was a recalculation based on past opponents games.
Theroretically, a ranked team could be idle, and if all of there previous opponents lost that week, they would drop in the rankings.

With the human poll, that’s all forgotten week to week. It’s a lazy process.
Either move up or down based on what happened that week.
However, the CFBPO committee seems to review the entire season.

All this being said, Dump the polls till mid October when there’s some actual data to input to make an informed decision.
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I agree. The human polls definitely have their issues. I think there needs to be a 3rd major poll that compiles all the major computer rankings, to give people an unbiased pov.

This week alone an AP voter had UCLA, Fresno State and FSU (18th) in his top 25. He left Miami unranked. He was the ONLY voter to put UCLA in the top 25 and one of only two voters who didn't have Miami ranked. How can he justify UCLA? He can because he doesn't have to.

Last week one of the coaches had Texas ranked #1. That should be a bad joke. Of course that coach never came forward to explain himself. I remember when Spurrier caught **** for his ballot and he said he let a staffer fill it out. Shows how serious they take it.

Problem is people see these rankings and treat them as a set in stone fact.

Also, the playoff committee has to start their rankings somewhere. I have a hard time believing they're watching every team play and aren't letting outside polls influence their rankings, even if they're not supposed to.
 
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