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flagator86 said:
I wouldn’t but if he got all this hype, they see the goods in him just like i do, no?
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These writers haven’t seen jack imo. They aren’t evaluating him at camp. They have tape of a few games which he didn’t exactly light it up. So no, I don’t believe they see the goods. They see others hyping and are all piggybacking. Not saying he can’t do these things. But based on factual tape, he doesn’t deserve to be projected to this status….not yet.
 
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flagator86 said:
****ed us off because fans, rational ones, saw through it. Last staff basically ignored central and north Florida recruiting wise and a few recruits, who spoke anonymously, stated that Mullen would basically tell them “you should WANT to come to UF” as his recruiting pitch.

Remember how disrespectful they were to Matt Corral? When he was hired, it took them forever and a day to contact him and when they did visit him, I believe it was our darn WR coach. He decommitted soon after we left his house.

Aiden Mizell, our commit at WR, said the last staff **** near ignored him
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But didn’t the new staff basically do the same thing about “wanting to come to UF” by making high level recruits submit a video? I wouldn’t give them a pass yet because we haven’t seen the decommitment wave that may happen if the startnn be of the year is underwhelming.
 
flagator86 said:
I wouldn’t but if he got all this hype, they see the goods in him just like i do, no?
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AR definitely has the potential to be great, but it’s certainly not a guarantee. By all accounts, he has all the tools. However, his stats from last year are meh. Also, the buzz from your 2 scrimmages doesn’t eliminate potential concern over accuracy and/or decision making. Those last two things are a huge deal in big time college football. He will have half a second to make decisions on where/how to throw the football. Great quarterbacks can analyze and execute on an elite level. Rightfully so, there are concerns on whether AR will produce in those situations. He very well could succeed in those situations, but it’s definitely not a guarantee.
 
hesskilla said:
AR definitely has the potential to be great, but it’s certainly not a guarantee. By all accounts, he has all the tools. However, his stats from last year are meh. Also, the buzz from your 2 scrimmages doesn’t eliminate potential concern over accuracy and/or decision making. Those last two things are a huge deal in big time college football. He will have half a second to make decisions on where/how to throw the football. Great quarterbacks can analyze and execute on an elite level. Rightfully so, there are concerns on whether AR will produce in those situations. He very well could succeed in those situations, but it’s definitely not a guarantee.
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I would add that if he had athletic playmakers on the field in college he would be able to overcome those other aspects. But it doesn’t appear that he has targets that are going to be open at will.
 
flagator86 said:
I wouldn’t but if he got all this hype, they see the goods in him just like i do, no?
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I try to be fair in my assessments.

In my opinion, the young man has a very high ceiling and is one **** of an athlete. In the games that I saw him play in, he definitely showed that he’s a competitor, and was head and shoulders above Emory Jones.

His weakness is definitely his accuracy, in my opinion. I don’t think that your OL will do him any favors this season. I expect him to play very well against inferior opponents, but think that he will struggle mightily against the middle tier and top dogs in the $EC, as well as against Utah.

I also don’t think he’s in the same stratosphere as TVD when it comes to passing, and reading defenses at this point. He’s definitely faster and quicker than TVD, but does not possess as good of an arm, and definitely has not at this point shown to have the accuracy or quick decision making ability to be considered an elite prospect.

Again, we shall see. Just my opinion.
 
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hesskilla said:
AR definitely has the potential to be great, but it’s certainly not a guarantee. By all accounts, he has all the tools. However, his stats from last year are meh. Also, the buzz from your 2 scrimmages doesn’t eliminate potential concern over accuracy and/or decision making. Those last two things are a huge deal in big time college football. He will have half a second to make decisions on where/how to throw the football. Great quarterbacks can analyze and execute on an elite level. Rightfully so, there are concerns on whether AR will produce in those situations. He very well could succeed in those situations, but it’s definitely not a guarantee.
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TakeitinDiaz said:
I would add that if he had athletic playmakers on the field in college he would be able to overcome those other aspects. But it doesn’t appear that he has targets that are going to be open at will.
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He’ll either be Cam Newton or Jeremy Johnson lol
 
WaterburyCane said:
This is the back page of a Fantasy Football magazine I picked up today where they snapshot potential 2023 rookies for fantasy purposes. WTF. It’s not just UF homers pumping this dude up. There is a difference between hope and hype. This guy has not earned the hype. Notice anyone missing?

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This is some stupid rag. It’s not even attributed. Go to Vegas odds and see if Van Dyke doesn’t always rank above Anthony Richards, I haven’t seen a single one worries higher. These are published odds. So your little fantasy rag is pure nonsense. I wouldn’t have even given it the viewing here.

Maybe that’s some short bus riding **** writer that put that load of manure out there.
 
RVACane said:
2 weeks.
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No one is going to show a garbage pass that would most likely be intercepted as a highlight, unless that was his best play. Or in other words, the least shltty pass he threw in that scrimmage.

Again that’s the official gator football Twitter putting that highlight out there.

Imagine if there was no Van Dyke and one of our prospective quarterbacks did that, and that was the highlight that the official Miami football Twitter put out. There would be threads with thousands and thousands of views saying we were fūcked.

You’ve got one poster here, post after post, justifying this garbage.
 
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jd716 said:
To be fair, our fan base talks about García the same way.
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You’re joking, right? May be about 10 to 20 posters on this entire site that I can think of. And that’s probably way too high an estimate.

No sensible Miami fan actually knows what we have in Garcia.

Very very few of them have even watched him throw more than in a few short Twitter clips or YouTube practice clips. I bet most of the people here haven’t even watched him in a scrimmage.

Garcia looks very promising don’t get me wrong, but nobody’s hyping him with the exception of a few knuckleheads. At the end of the day we don’t know what he has.

On the other hand, AR already has real tape from real college games. And I would be very scared if I were the turds. That guy doesn’t have it. He is talented. But his accuracy is atrocious
 
Wasn’t Mullen a QB whisperer? Didn’t his QBs, minus Emory, always produce? I believe with Mullen AR could possibly reach his maximum potential. With some guy who isn’t known for ****? Please. Dude is gonna fail hard.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
This is some stupid rag. It’s not even attributed. Go to Vegas odds and see if Van Dyke doesn’t always rank above Anthony Richards, I haven’t seen a single one worries higher. These are published odds. So your little fantasy rag is pure nonsense. I wouldn’t have even given it the viewing here.

Maybe that’s some short bus riding **** writer that put that load of manure out there.
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I don't think @WaterburyCane is giving that any credence whatsoever, just simply pointing out something that's ridiculous
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
This is some stupid rag. It’s not even attributed. Go to Vegas odds and see if Van Dyke doesn’t always rank above Anthony Richards, I haven’t seen a single one worries higher. These are published odds. So your little fantasy rag is pure nonsense. I wouldn’t have even given it the viewing here.

Maybe that’s some short bus riding **** writer that put that load of manure out there.
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Its absolute bananas. This is a well known mag actually...and Ive seen other lists with AR ahead of TVD. I dont get it. We are on the same page. It is nonsense and a terrible take.

I looked at a number of betting websites. At least they are consistent and have TVD with better odds of winning the Heisman than AR. I actually saw 1 though that had DJ from Clemson with better odds than TVD. That gave me a chuckle.

These are all projections. The Miami Dolphins can beat the KC Chiefs. But Im not putting the odds in their favor..based on what we know. I think a lot of AR nuthuggers are confusing hype with hope.
 
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CaneTheGaytors said:
I try to be fair in my assessments.

In my opinion, the young man has a very high ceiling and is one **** of an athlete. In the games that I saw him play in, he definitely showed that he’s a competitor, and was head and shoulders above Emory Jones.

His weakness is definitely his accuracy, in my opinion. I don’t think that your OL will do him any favors this season. I expect him to play very well against inferior opponents, but think that he will struggle mightily against the middle tier and top dogs in the $EC, as well as against Utah.

I also don’t think he’s in the same stratosphere as TVD when it comes to passing, and reading defenses at this point. He’s definitely faster and quicker than TVD, but does not possess as good of an arm, and definitely has not at this point shown to have the accuracy or quick decision making ability to be considered an elite prospect.

Again, we shall see. Just my opinion.
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This is good, and I completely agree. There's no denying his physical traits. He should be able to wreck inferior opponents and put up numbers against them. The issue is whether he can be effective against the better teams. He should still be able to put up yards, but will he struggle when they tighten up, shrink the field and start throwing different looks at him? Is he going to be able to anticipate the defense, make the right read, and out the ball where it needs to be? Idk. He struggled last season in very limited reps. It's obviously too early to tell, but it is strange that there is a hype train around him when there has been very little reason to hype him up.

Yes, Mullen obviously didn't want him, etc. But say what you will about Mullen, he usually knows QBs. Isn't that an indictment on AR? It's a new staff and new season, but I'm very curious to see what happens with his progression.
 
ItsMeD said:
This is good, and I completely agree. There's no denying his physical traits. He should be able to wreck inferior opponents and put up numbers against them. The issue is whether he can be effective against the better teams. He should still be able to put up yards, but will he struggle when they tighten up, shrink the field and start throwing different looks at him? Is he going to be able to anticipate the defense, make the right read, and out the ball where it needs to be? Idk. He struggled last season in very limited reps. It's obviously too early to tell, but it is strange that there is a hype train around him when there has been very little reason to hype him up.

Yes, Mullen obviously didn't want him, etc. But say what you will about Mullen, he usually knows QBs. Isn't that an indictment on AR? It's a new staff and new season, but I'm very curious to see what happens with his progression.
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Mullet supposedly knows QBs but I think that’s been exposed in here. He chased Emory over Corral and Beck over Richardson. He started Franks over Trask and Emory over Richardson.
 
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