Tears Gator Tears

It's just the bold. It's not fair to other schools, really.

If a state just keeps getting bigger, and the school doesn't expand its enrollment proportionally (and they never do), the school can get more and more selective without doing...anything.

And the fact is, the states of Florida and Georgia ain't slowing down any time soon.


This was my main point. JD08 is correct about Bright Futures, which certainly contributed, but UGa is also moving up in the rankings, and that one has nothing to do with BF scholarships.

Your statistical point is right on. In a state like Michigan, which has a static or declining population, a school like U-M (Michigan) could actually go DOWN on selectivity index, while maintaining an excellent academic program and reputation. Conversely, UiF, F$U, and UGa could RISE in the rankings without doing a single thing to improve their academic programs or reputations, simply by having an ever-increasing selectivity index.

Bizarre. And, look, I can acknowledge that UiF is a good school (F$U is not), but nobody can point to any specific academic initiatives that are driving the rankings movements of those 2 universities in the US News lists.
 
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I remember Bright Futures was still relatively new when I started high school (2001). When I got to high school, there were some children of Lizards who wanted to go there, but I don't remember that many people who had UiF as a "dream school." The price just ended up too good to refuse for a lot of smart kids.

I argued even back then that UM should be trying something aggressive to counteract this, such as offering automatic entry to the top 5% or valedictorians/salutatorians in a 3-6 county area. I know it's gimmicky, but someone could iron out the details. We definitely should have done more, earlier, to try to keep the best of South Florida here.
Back in the early 80's, UF was where the kids went whose parents insisted they go to college. They'd come back a term or two later and enroll in Palm Beach Junior College.
 
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It's his baby.

And he's a Maude now. He can get ****e done.

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Will someone post and link the new WSJ rankings of Colleges and Universities? Miami is ranked #53, Ufag #56, and FSU #187. So much for all the flagship university in Florida and Harvard of the south Gayta talk. Thanks

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Thank you, thought it was fitting for Gator tears! But ****, how Bad is FSU right now on and off the field!
 
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The US News rankings is hardly based on academic strength at all. Retention rates, , alumni giving (yes, im not making that up) "Expert opinion" etc etc are all factored in and its very arbitrary.


Yep. Miami alums can't give as much because we are paying back our student loans. Gaytor grads can give more because the entire cost for four years is about $59.
 
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