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raincane said:
If you guys beat us and we have a bunch of our guys suspended it really is not impressive. We play big dogs in the SEC. Its totally different from Michigan because that is the peach bowl, and premier bowl game, whereas for a team of our stature (Tebow went here), playing the lowly hurricanes does not mean much.
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Oof, hit the nail on the head there. 100% accuracy throughout the statement.

Also, can I tell you how jealous I am that UM hasn't ever had anyone as good as Tebow come through the program? It actually breaks my heart.

Hopefully UM can increase in stature enough to catch up to UF's national championships. One can dream, right?
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Yes, this is correct.

Here is a summary of the new NCAA rule:

Three loopholes in the 7-year-old rule are closed, or mostly closed, they say.

1. Prospects who sign and do not qualify academically remain part of the signing class.

Coaches can no longer retain those spots to use in future classes as they previously have done. For instance, LSU took advantage of this when 2015 signees Brandon Martin and Jeremy Cutrer failed to qualify.

www.theadvocate.com

A deep dive inside the NCAA's tweaked 25-man signing limit and how it could have drastic impacts on rosters

Willie Fritz is one of the lucky ones.
www.theadvocate.com www.theadvocate.com

Now, in all fairness, I think the Orlando Sentinel article is misleading, and is also a rehash of everything we already know. Yes, there are three guys who have not yet reported, two for academics, one for a student visa issue. Chris Steele and Jalon Jones already counted as Initial Counters, you know, because they ACTUALLY enrolled. The players who have ALREADY failed to qualify and have already chosen to go JuCo also count as Initial Counters, though they have never actually enrolled at UF. And if these last 2 academic risks fail to qualify, they too will count as ICs. As for Wardrick Wilson, I have no idea whether the NCAA rule contemplates a failure to enroll for non-academic reasons. If the reason is academic, perhaps the NCAA would count Wilson as an IC non-qualifier, but if it were purely related to US Immigration paperwork issues, the NCAA might let UF have one IC back.

What is truly and profoundly disturbing about all of this (to Gaytor fans) is that these new NCAA IC rules were well-known, and they might have FOUR academic non-qualifiers in the same class. That is like THROWING AWAY four of your 25 slots. You can't sign ANYONE else in those slots, not a JuCo, not a transfer, not a grayshirt.

That is insane, particularly when you ALSO lost 2 guys to criminal/transfer issues. From the same class.
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Here is a Loophole that I know a few schools still do.

You have your 25 prospects that you know for a fact will be eligible sign an LOI. Then the ones that are academically in question, you sign them to FA agreements. Prospects that sign FA agreements do not count towards your 25 counter limit but they do count against your overall number if they qualify and enroll. Also a school can only officially announce 25 signees. The ones that sign FA agreements, arent officially announced by the school but we know who they are because of recruiting sites and twitter.
 
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raincane said:
Don’t set unrealistic expectations. In all likelihood they will win. We have a new OC, possibly brand new QB (possibly first ever start), and new head coach. I expect a gator win, and am considering putting a tiny bit of money on it so that way I will be happy with either outcome, a win win for me.
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caneballza said:
Nope... clearly you don't know me, if I don't like something I will complain about it — even if it means ****ing people off. And I can tell you right now I don't like that Jordan look, I think it looks cheap and tacky and actually prefer the Adidas look.
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Honestly, I think Miami and Adidas is a match made in Heaven. Adidas has always been known to being a little bit more edgy and radical in the fashion designs.
 
raincane said:
If you guys beat us and we have a bunch of our guys suspended it really is not impressive. We play big dogs in the SEC. Its totally different from Michigan because that is the peach bowl, and premier bowl game, whereas for a team of our stature (Tebow went here), playing the lowly hurricanes does not mean much.
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2.0 said:
Here is a Loophole that I know a few schools still do.

You have your 25 prospects that you know for a fact will be eligible sign an LOI. Then the ones that are academically in question, you sign them to FA agreements. Prospects that sign FA agreements do not count towards your 25 counter limit but they do count against your overall number if they qualify and enroll. Also a school can only officially announce 25 signees. The ones that sign FA agreements, arent officially announced by the school but we know who they are because of recruiting sites and twitter.
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While some of that is correct, other parts are not.

Initial Counters count at enrollment, and ICs are more than just "signing class". Transfers and JuCos count as ICs too. Thus, an FA signer WILL EVENTUALLY count as an IC when he enrolls. I know that you are claiming that a few schools "still do" this, but the IC rule was just changed for non-qualifiers, so I'm not sure why they might have done it in the past, or whether they think this loophole will work in the future.

But, I do see your POSSIBLE non-qualifier loophole in the scenario you described, though I do not believe the rule has been around long enough to PROVE that it works, or that the NCAA will allow it.

The funny thing is that the IC rules were intended to force the issue when it comes to ENROLLMENT (of any sort, LOI or not), but the new rule kinda-sorta accelerates the IC count to guys who never even enroll. In other words, let's say a guy is in the LOI/FA signing class in February, and never enrolls (and Wardrick Wilson might be an example of this with his visa issue), would those guys count (or not count) against IC numbers? I don't think we know the answer yet on Wilson. But an LOI guy who fails to qualify DOES count against the IC numbers, and I don't know if the Gaytors signed all their risky guys to LOIs or FAs. We could check the Signing Day articles.

Regardless of anything, I can tell you EXACTLY what will happen next. If any school DOES use the loophole to sign academically risky kids to FA agreements instead of LOIs, and they SUCCEED in circumventing the IC limitations, then the NCAA will rewrite the rule with speed.
 
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