forums

Tears Gator Tears

Ricaneswag said:
I thought BN was going to be able to recruit but so many schools upgraded to elite recruiters and their ain't enough big fish each cycle to go around. He's surrounded by the best recruiters in the country besides fsu.
Click to expand...
Yeah the NIL really changed everything. JM also had a good start to his career they knocked off #3 Ole Miss which was kinda like the overreaction we had when UiF beat Utah

I don’t think Napier loses his job as fast as JM but I see a slower descent into mediocrity but they also won’t necessarily be a disaster either

I think FSU will face similar paths. Norvell ain’t the guy. Caught some lighting with Travis who Ive thought was gonna be a PROBLEM for years, and some solid DL guys, but his recruiting problems are gonna catch up
 
Advertisement
JHallCanes said:
Yeah the NIL really changed everything. JM also had a good start to his career they knocked off #3 Ole Miss which was kinda like the overreaction we had when UiF beat Utah

I don’t think Napier loses his job as fast as JM but I see a slower descent into mediocrity but they also won’t necessarily be a disaster either

I think FSU will face similar paths. Norvell ain’t the guy. Caught some lighting with Travis who Ive thought was gonna be a PROBLEM for years, and some solid DL guys, but his recruiting problems are gonna catch up
Click to expand...
To me Norvell is there Golden. Hykeem is the Stacey Coley win and he struck gold on QB. Unsustainable they will be screwed later on. People are basically thinking they will be great but to me it's a toss up it can go north or south in a hurry.
 
turds stars.JPG
 
supacane said:
They should have kept Mullen and gave him the money they spending on Billy and say, go surround yourself with young hungry recruiters. Cristobal coming here opened my eyes on what it really takes to compete, like really compete. Not ND we are so sound we can schedule our way into 10 wins then get smoked. They are fooked
Click to expand...
Exactly. Mullen is a good coach.
 
JHallCanes said:
I don’t see much of a difference in McElwain and Napier. I mean not a direct comparison but I think their careers there play out similarly maybe without the admin issues. Napier isn’t horrible but he’s not the one.
Click to expand...
Jury is still out on him as a coach but the returns on the recruiting side of things shows a guy who can’t read a room well. The start of this cycle has actually been borderline elite but as the months go on he continues to lose momentum and getting played by recruits. Last year he signed a very good class but it was short of serious difference makers.
 
Ricaneswag said:
To me Norvell is there Golden. Hykeem is the Stacey Coley win and he struck gold on QB. Unsustainable they will be screwed later on. People are basically thinking they will be great but to me it's a toss up it can go north or south in a hurry.
Click to expand...
I think thats a fair comparision. Norvell puts some good playeds in the league like Golden. They just don't have the IT factor.
 
bobbydigius said:
Jury is still out on him as a coach but the returns on the recruiting side of things shows a guy who can’t read a room well. The start of this cycle has actually been borderline elite but as the months go on he continues to lose momentum and getting played by recruits. Last year he signed a very good class but it was short of serious difference makers.
Click to expand...
I may be mistaken here but it seems like they’ve got a nice boost from some legacy recruits
 
bobbydigius said:
Jury is still out on him as a coach but the returns on the recruiting side of things shows a guy who can’t read a room well. The start of this cycle has actually been borderline elite but as the months go on he continues to lose momentum and getting played by recruits. Last year he signed a very good class but it was short of serious difference makers.
Click to expand...
remember this sh would happen to us. When the big boys came out they cleaned up and our class would fall apart. Now we have that we taken all your recruits culture.
 
Advertisement
Ricaneswag said:
To me Norvell is there Golden. Hykeem is the Stacey Coley win and he struck gold on QB. Unsustainable they will be screwed later on. People are basically thinking they will be great but to me it's a toss up it can go north or south in a hurry.
Click to expand...
I think Norvell has some good qualities about him but he’s really not an elite team type of coach. Like if he was at a place like Virginia or even a lower tier SEC team he could have a solid record and go on about his business year to year with some upsets maybe mixed in when he gets the right QB in there

But I think the people crowning FSUs trend towards the return to glory are way off
 
JHallCanes said:
I don’t see much of a difference in McElwain and Napier. I mean not a direct comparison but I think their careers there play out similarly maybe without the admin issues. Napier isn’t horrible but he’s not the one.
Click to expand...
even if they could fire Billy after this abortion of a season there about to have, I don’t see who they would get as a hc that could do much better? I don’t see anyone wanting that job who could actually fix that dumpster fire
 
da truth said:
even if they could fire Billy after this abortion of a season there about to have, I don’t see who they would get as a hc that could do much better? I don’t see anyone wanting that job who could actually fix that dumpster fire
Click to expand...
All the big names are hired besides Urban ain't no way he would go back there.
 
JHallCanes said:
Yeah the NIL really changed everything. JM also had a good start to his career they knocked off #3 Ole Miss which was kinda like the overreaction we had when UiF beat Utah

I don’t think Napier loses his job as fast as JM but I see a slower descent into mediocrity but they also won’t necessarily be a disaster either

I think FSU will face similar paths. Norvell ain’t the guy. Caught some lighting with Travis who Ive thought was gonna be a PROBLEM for years, and some solid DL guys, but his recruiting problems are gonna catch up
Click to expand...
He's not helped by the Gator Collective / Gator Guard (or whatever the **** they're called) being clowns, that's for sure.
 
Advertisement
Ricaneswag said:
I thought BN was going to be able to recruit but so many schools upgraded to elite recruiters and their ain't enough big fish each cycle to go around. He's surrounded by the best recruiters in the country besides fsu.
Click to expand...
In the puff pieces his agent was putting out prior to leaving Louisiana he was described as incredibly detail oriented and reminded people of Saban.

It was a slight cause for concern when he landed with the Gators - then you see him driving recruits around in a rented car, hosting them in what looked like empty dorm rooms (or really cheap hotels?) and having them eat their OV meal on the basketball stadium floor (which looked like a high school prom!).

Dude ain't it.
 
OldhamA said:
In the puff pieces his agent was putting out prior to leaving Louisiana he was described as incredibly detail oriented and reminded people of Saban.

It was a slight cause for concern when he landed with the Gators - then you see him driving recruits around in a rented car, hosting them in what looked like empty dorm rooms (or really cheap hotels?) and having them eat their OV meal on the basketball stadium floor (which looked like a high school prom!).

Dude ain't it.
Click to expand...
Same thing they were saying about Al Golden lol sheeeesh. They use his name to get pay raises and jobs
 
TheOriginalCane said:
And, look, I realize that we all have some OV cancellations. The reason I posted those two is that they are both OLs, the Gaytors only have 2 OL commits for a 1.5 star average, and they are NOT hosting any OVs next weekend.

Bleak.
Click to expand...
Yeah, that’s a good point to bring up which I mentioned recently. The gator killed one of their June visit weekends by holding Friday Night Bites on the 23rd. Times have changed. June is the month for OV’s and setting up for the commitments in July/August and they erased one of those precious weekends. I’m surprised I hadn’t seen anything about that on their board.
 
Back
Top