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RVACane said:
A young autistic kid my girls know, and my 12 year old is really fond of, got hit by a car and died back home and they got the text today so my young one is really distraught and I’m trying to manage that here. My 16 year old is colder and more clinical so she makes it worse when she talks.

I’m taking them on a street food/street art tour today so I hope that distracts her a little bit. I didn’t know the kid and I’m trying to deal myself as I see how hurt my kid is and then I think about the family and can’t imagine. I tried to tell her that it’s good that he’s being remembered as a very kind kid so that’s a good thing and you never know when in life.

Anyhow... sorry for the off topic rant. Puts shît in perspective.
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Hate to hear that man. My little brother is non verbal autistic so hits close to home.
TheOriginalCane said:
OK, so it's time to analyze the Gaytors Flipz Machine article from Luke Stampenis.

First, I'll start by saying that I'm not really bothered by a "decommit". Kids can choose to go to whatever college they like the best. Now, this is not a denial of reality when (a) a kid is a serial decommitter or (b) there's a bunch of underhanded BS going on with another school trying to get a kid to decommit. The business of committing and decommitting can get ugly. Fair enough.

Second, in keeping with the "free will" argument above, we have to think about how long a kid can be decommitted from Miami before he constitutes a "steal" when he commits to another school such as UiF. After observing this recruiting game for over 30 years, I think it is undisputed that a "simultaneous" decommit/commit can be considered a flip. Not only does the new school get a commit, but the school that suffers the decommit has no reaction time in which they can start recruiting another player. The replacement may happen eventually, but it is certainly a blow.

Anything beyond a month, though, really should not constitute a "flip" or "steal". These kids are allowed to change their minds, they are allowed to do what they want, and when they spend more than a month on the "open market", even if they end up at a school "we thought they would go to", these kids have risked losing the "sure thing" at the first school and have started looking around at multiple schools in the meantime.

Finally, it should be noted that there are really 2 kinds of decommits we have seen at Miami over the past few years. One is the "committed too soon/used the Miami offer to generate interest from others" decommit, and the other is the "Golden/Richt sucks, I need to do something now before I really figure out who the new coach will be". And, yes, it takes time to build relationships with new coaching staffs, so I'm not blaming these kids, though I would have loved it if they stuck with Miami.

On with the show.

2015
---Stampenis mentions Jordan Scarlett, who is a true Gaytor Flipz. Decommitted from Miami and committed to Florida right before National Signing Day 2015. Even if it was rumored earlier, we have to remember that Golden finished out 2014 with 4 consecutive losses, which really damaged our 2015 and 2016 recruiting efforts. Legit Flipz, with a valid reason (Golden sucked).
---NOTABLE OMISSION: Notice how Stampenis does not claim Jordan Cronkrite, who flopped at UiF. However, Cronkrite is NOT a true Gaytor Flipz, as nearly 5 months passed between his UM decommit and his UF commit. I note the omission because it's not the only one. The only truly interesting aspect with Cronkrite is that he decommitted before Golden's 2014 year-end swoon. Maybe we can call Cronkrite a true Gaytor Flopz.

2016
---Chauncey Gardner is a true Gaytor Flipz, another casualty of Golden's 2014 year-end tank job. Jawaan Taylor is also a true Gaytor Flipz, but he was kind enough to wait until Golden was fired after the Clemson debacle. Nothing to see here.

2017
---Stampenis mentions 3 Flipz candidates, and omits 1 Flipz candidate. The only true Gaytor Flipz is Kadeem Telfort, who was smart enough to jump ship BEFORE Golden's Clemson debacle. Kemore Gable is right at the edge of the definition, as he went a month as a free agent, thus he is NOT a true Gaytor Flipz. Finally, you have CJ Henderson, NOT a true Gaytor Flipz (4 months between) and another notable omission, Brian Edwards, who is NOT a true Gaytor Flipz either (3 months between). It is important to sort this stuff out, as Gaytor fans tend to build up the Flipz argument when Miami continues to recruit decommitted kids. Makes no difference. Makes it a "loss" rather than a "flipz" or a "steal".

2018
---Ah, yes, the Randy Russell year. What is funny about Randy is that he isn't even listed on the Signing Class on Rivals. Yeah, but Randy's a "Gaytor for Life", right? Yeah, most of the Gaytors who read Stampenis' article have no active memory of Randy Russell. Anyhow, I'm going to count ol' Randy as a true Gaytor Flipz, as he picked UiF a couple of weeks after decommitting from Miami.

2019
---Now we come to the tragedy that was Richt's final season, where he just didn't seem to have the fire or stones, unless it was making sure that his son kept getting paychecks (Coach Richt, how could you have missed this final important lesson from your mentor, Blobby Bowden?). So, Jesiah Pierre decommitted in the summertime, but he went nearly 2 months before committing to UiF, so NOT a true Gaytor Flipz. Then we have the pair of 2019 kids who left when Richt was fired. Michael Tarquin was the first true Gaytor Flipz as Richt flamed out in 2018, and then Kingsley Eguakun was the second true Gaytor Flipz of December 2018.

2020
---I'm only dignifying Stampenis' inclusion of Leonard Manuel because he decommitted around the same time as Tarquin and Eguakun. However, we ALL KNOW that Leonard Manuel is an academic-nonqualifier-in-waiting, and it took him a month to find an idiotic Mullet to take a chance on him, months before Mullet white-knuckled the middle part of 2019 due to multiple academic nonqualifiers (and toss in a few criminals and homesick mama's boys to boot). It will be interesting to see if Mullet "stands by his Manuel" after the last few months, but we are talking about the same guy who has a "less than 100%, but I'm still calling it zero-tolerance" policy on violence against women. Still, NOT a true Gaytor Flipz.

7 true Gaytor Flipz
6 NOT true Gaytor Flipz (2 of whom Stampenis selectively omitted)

7-6. Sounds like a typical Mullet W-L record.

But, yeah, 7 Gaytor Flipz in 6 years is something that I believe Manny should address, and will address. Even if 5 of them were due to UM "dead coach walking" syndrome. And the other 2 are Randy Russell and Kadeem Telfort. So, you know, not big losses.
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Didn’t we also get mark Walton after he reclassified to the 2015 class who was better then either of those 2015 RB prospects.
 
RVACane said:
A young autistic kid my girls know, and my 12 year old is really fond of, got hit by a car and died back home and they got the text today so my young one is really distraught and I’m trying to manage that here. My 16 year old is colder and more clinical so she makes it worse when she talks.

I’m taking them on a street food/street art tour today so I hope that distracts her a little bit. I didn’t know the kid and I’m trying to deal myself as I see how hurt my kid is and then I think about the family and can’t imagine. I tried to tell her that it’s good that he’s being remembered as a very kind kid so that’s a good thing and you never know when in life.

Anyhow... sorry for the off topic rant. Puts shît in perspective.
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Dude, I’m so sorry for your girls and the kid’s family. Just heartbreaking. Prayers of comfort and grace for all involved with that young child’s life.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Dude, I’m so sorry for your girls and the kid’s family. Just heartbreaking. Prayers of comfort and grace for all involved with that young child’s life.
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Thanks Inday and @BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen too. I can literally hear my 12 year old crying in the shower right now. It’s heartbreaking all around.
 
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RVACane said:
Pay the $25 and send an army from CIS to greet the gaytors in our own way as they get off the bus. Make sure to bring @JuanFromLittleHavana and the Blue Lot Special Boys.
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Because this belongs here. I’m not looking to support a zillion threads ripping the turds. That shît can almost always fit in just fine right here in this place and that’s probably how the board owners like it too:

RVACane said:
They think Mullet’s some Offensive and QB genius but he can’t convert whatever it is that he’s supposed to be so good at into recruits. He’s a corch on the trail.

This cycle- He’s got an Ok QB who fits his system and he’s struck out badly at RB. He has not pulled in a dominating OL, especially with Jovens Javier and to a lesser extent, Mincey. His WR prize is Leonard Manuel who is a qualifying risk - like the corch âss ******* is going down that route again. If they pulled in a TE prospect, he’s not at our level. Mostly all of his better recruits are on Defense.

If you read “Gator Tears” consistently, you’ll see that he intentionally took a whole bunch of high risk kids for the rankings boost in 2019. But they can claim a top 10 class so yay. And that idiot fanbase cares more about the perception of recruiting elitely as opposed to what these kids actually do in their careers. It’s indisputably a fact I have screenshotted over and over and it’s documented in nearly 1,200 pages that me and my gaytor hating friends here have commented on. More Facts - They are literally comparing rankings of their players coming out of HS versus ours to demonstrate, through gaytor Mathz, why they will win this game.

For fûcks sake, they ranked Turdbarrel Slaton over Jon Ford because he had a higher ranking as a recruit. Slaton’s ranking as a recruit was based on him being an OL!!!

@Liberty City El is right. They’ve always been a second rate program run like shît. With all of their talk about hanging 40-60 points on us and having their walk-ons in for the 3rd quarter and with their inability to consider any scenario where Manny could possibly beat Mullet in his first game as a HC, this universe is aligning for them to have the most epic collapse any Cane could only dream of.

Watch that piece of mierda House of Cards in Shîtsville collapse in 3 weeks. When that POS fûcker burns I’m ****ing gasoline all over it and laughing at the smoldering of Pompeii in Central Florida and the stench of burning **** epidermis.

Fûck those cucks. Now say goodnight to the bad guy.
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They think Mullet’s some Offensive and QB genius but he can’t convert whatever it is that he’s supposed to be so good at into recruits. He’s a corch on the trail.

This cycle- He’s got an Ok QB who fits his system and he’s struck out badly at RB. He has not pulled in a dominating OL, especially with Jovens Javier and to a lesser extent, Mincey. His WR prize is Leonard Manuel who is a qualifying risk - like the corch âss ******* is going down that route again. If they pulled in a TE prospect, he’s not at our level. Mostly all of his better recruits are on Defense.

If you read “Gator Tears” consistently, you’ll see that he intentionally took a whole bunch of high risk kids for the rankings boost in 2019. But they can claim a top 10 class so yay. And that idiot fanbase cares more about the perception of recruiting elitely as opposed to what these kids actually do in their careers. It’s indisputably a fact I have screenshotted over and over and it’s documented in nearly 1,200 pages that me and my gaytor hating friends here have commented on. More Facts - They are literally comparing rankings of their players coming out of HS versus ours to demonstrate, through gaytor Mathz, why they will win this game.

For fûcks sake, they ranked Turdbarrel Slaton over Jon Ford because he had a higher ranking as a recruit. Slaton’s ranking as a recruit was based on him being an OL!!!

@Liberty City El is right. They’ve always been a second rate program run like shît. With all of their talk about hanging 40-60 points on us and having their walk-ons in for the 3rd quarter and with their inability to consider any scenario where Manny could possibly beat Mullet in his first game as a HC, this universe is aligning for them to have the most epic collapse any Cane could only dream of.

Watch that piece of mierda House of Cards in Shîtsville collapse in 3 weeks. When that POS fûcker burns I’m ****ing gasoline all over it and laughing at the smoldering of Pompeii in Central Florida and the stench of burning **** epidermis.

Fûck those cucks. Now say goodnight to the bad guy.
 
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RVACane said:
Because this belongs here. I’m not looking to support a zillion threads ripping the turds. That shît can almost always fit in just fine right here in this place and that’s probably how the board owners like it too:



They think Mullet’s some Offensive and QB genius but he can’t convert whatever it is that he’s supposed to be so good at into recruits. He’s a corch on the trail.

This cycle- He’s got an Ok QB who fits his system and he’s struck out badly at RB. He has not pulled in a dominating OL, especially with Jovens Javier and to a lesser extent, Mincey. His WR prize is Leonard Manuel who is a qualifying risk - like the corch âss ******* is going down that route again. If they pulled in a TE prospect, he’s not at our level. Mostly all of his better recruits are on Defense.

If you read “Gator Tears” consistently, you’ll see that he intentionally took a whole bunch of high risk kids for the rankings boost in 2019. But they can claim a top 10 class so yay. And that idiot fanbase cares more about the perception of recruiting elitely as opposed to what these kids actually do in their careers. It’s indisputably a fact I have screenshotted over and over and it’s documented in nearly 1,200 pages that me and my gaytor hating friends here have commented on. More Facts - They are literally comparing rankings of their players coming out of HS versus ours to demonstrate, through gaytor Mathz, why they will win this game.

For fûcks sake, they ranked Turdbarrel Slaton over Jon Ford because he had a higher ranking as a recruit. Slaton’s ranking as a recruit was based on him being an OL!!!

@Liberty City El is right. They’ve always been a second rate program run like shît. With all of their talk about hanging 40-60 points on us and having their walk-ons in for the 3rd quarter and with their inability to consider any scenario where Manny could possibly beat Mullet in his first game as a HC, this universe is aligning for them to have the most epic collapse any Cane could only dream of.

Watch that piece of mierda House of Cards in Shîtsville collapse in 3 weeks. When that POS fûcker burns I’m ****ing gasoline all over it and laughing at the smoldering of Pompeii in Central Florida and the stench of burning **** epidermis.

Fûck those cucks. Now say goodnight to the bad guy.
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The best financial advice to give anyone you know. Take the UM money line against UF.
 
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RVACane said:
A young autistic kid my girls know, and my 12 year old is really fond of, got hit by a car and died back home and they got the text today so my young one is really distraught and I’m trying to manage that here. My 16 year old is colder and more clinical so she makes it worse when she talks.

I’m taking them on a street food/street art tour today so I hope that distracts her a little bit. I didn’t know the kid and I’m trying to deal myself as I see how hurt my kid is and then I think about the family and can’t imagine. I tried to tell her that it’s good that he’s being remembered as a very kind kid so that’s a good thing and you never know when in life.

Anyhow... sorry for the off topic rant. Puts shît in perspective.
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My prayers to that family and of course your daughters. My middle one has mild autism and I fully understand what a family deals with. That is absolutely devastating 😥
 
RVACane said:
A young autistic kid my girls know, and my 12 year old is really fond of, got hit by a car and died back home and they got the text today so my young one is really distraught and I’m trying to manage that here. My 16 year old is colder and more clinical so she makes it worse when she talks.

I’m taking them on a street food/street art tour today so I hope that distracts her a little bit. I didn’t know the kid and I’m trying to deal myself as I see how hurt my kid is and then I think about the family and can’t imagine. I tried to tell her that it’s good that he’s being remembered as a very kind kid so that’s a good thing and you never know when in life.

Anyhow... sorry for the off topic rant. Puts shît in perspective.
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Makes you appreciate life's blessings. I hope the family and your daughter can find comfort and peace in time. No parent should have to bury a child.
 
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