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Gamblers- Week 1 and Futures

Johnny oddshark is a good follow on Twitter if you are on there. He does podcast every Saturday morning and goes over like 15 games and then gives you 2-3 personal games he put money on. He was over 60% on his “great white shark” picks which are the ones he lays his on money on.
 
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CaneSwag1995 said:
What sites do you all use?
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Crap sites like Bovada and Sportsbook.ag and any site offering a bonus should be avoided at all costs. If a site is offering a bonus, there assuredly is some absurdly high rollover like 11x. Skip the bonus, go with a reputable site like Bookmaker, and collect when you win. It's hard enough to win at gambling. Don't add to it by gambling if you're going to collect when you do.
 
ssvir said:
So you're picking LSU? Why would you want it to go to 3?
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-130 lay is a lot for a single college game. Bet $910 to just make $700 or bet $990 and make $900.. I want -3 so maybe it will go down to -110 or -115. Don't get me wrong, I suspect we will beat them by at least a TD as I have seen no evidence whatsoever that their offense will be any better then last year and in fact it probably will be worse. And if I can lay less and win more, all the better.
 
BeastMode said:
Johnny oddshark is a good follow on Twitter if you are on there. He does podcast every Saturday morning and goes over like 15 games and then gives you 2-3 personal games he put money on. He was over 60% on his “great white shark” picks which are the ones he lays his on money on.
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Now just wait for Assy Booger to come tell you how that dude doesn't know a ******* thing about sports handicapping.

it will be a LONG drawn out essay too......
 
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Poptimus said:
Crap sites like Bovada and Sportsbook.ag and any site offering a bonus should be avoided at all costs. If a site is offering a bonus, there assuredly is some absurdly high rollover like 11x. Skip the bonus, go with a reputable site like Bookmaker, and collect when you win. It's hard enough to win at gambling. Don't add to it by gambling if you're going to collect when you do.
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My site (SBG) did a 100% match with 3x rollover.
 
Captain Uberpants said:
My site (SBG) did a 100% match with 3x rollover.
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3x rollover is great for a 100% bonus. So now let me clue you in on something that will blow your mind: the Bonus Game.

You invest, say, $1,000 at Bookmaker and decline any bonus they may offer so you have the freedom to withdraw when you want. You invest $1,000 at SBG and have $2,000 in your account with the 100% bonus. Here's where it gets ingenious: you bet both sides of the same game on the ML, trying to win the game at Bookmaker, and lose at SBG. You bet the amount you expect to win on the favorite as your risk on the underdog.

e.g. New England Patriots are -500 against the New York Jets at +400. So you bet, say, $100 on the Patriots to win $20 profit. You bet $20 on the Jets even though you expect them to lose. This way you protect yourself in case of an upset. But the goal is to win, win, win at Bookmaker and lose, lose, lose at SBG. Do that enough and you've moved your SBG account from $2k to zero. But you've transferred that $2k (or thereabouts because there will be upsets and even though you're betting both sides, there is vig) over to Bookmaker. You now have $3k in your Bookmaker account, can withdraw it right away because there was zero rollover, and you made a cool $1k.
 
DemCanesByke said:
How easy is it to get your money when you win. I used sportsbook.ag and it took almost 4 months to get my money.
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If you use BTC to deposit your withdrawals happen within a couple of days on sportsbook.ag/bookmaker.eu/5Dimes.eu/etc.

5Dimes.eu is the best but once again you need to deposit using BTC.
 
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Washington will cover that imo and win outright. Auburn never has two good years in a row.
 
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Jassid82 said:
-130 lay is a lot for a single college game. Bet $910 to just make $700 or bet $990 and make $900.. I want -3 so maybe it will go down to -110 or -115. Don't get me wrong, I suspect we will beat them by at least a TD as I have seen no evidence whatsoever that their offense will be any better then last year and in fact it probably will be worse. And if I can lay less and win more, all the better.
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WTF am I missing? If it goes to 3 then the moneyline will be -150/-155 (b/c 3 is a key number).

If you are picking LSU then that is the strategy but if you are picking Miami then you are thinking about this wrong.
 
Poptimus said:
3x rollover is great for a 100% bonus. So now let me clue you in on something that will blow your mind: the Bonus Game.

You invest, say, $1,000 at Bookmaker and decline any bonus they may offer so you have the freedom to withdraw when you want. You invest $1,000 at SBG and have $2,000 in your account with the 100% bonus. Here's where it gets ingenious: you bet both sides of the same game on the ML, trying to win the game at Bookmaker, and lose at SBG. You bet the amount you expect to win on the favorite as your risk on the underdog.

e.g. New England Patriots are -500 against the New York Jets at +400. So you bet, say, $100 on the Patriots to win $20 profit. You bet $20 on the Jets even though you expect them to lose. This way you protect yourself in case of an upset. But the goal is to win, win, win at Bookmaker and lose, lose, lose at SBG. Do that enough and you've moved your SBG account from $2k to zero. But you've transferred that $2k (or thereabouts because there will be upsets and even though you're betting both sides, there is vig) over to Bookmaker. You now have $3k in your Bookmaker account, can withdraw it right away because there was zero rollover, and you made a cool $1k.
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You sir, are a genius.
 
Captain Uberpants said:
You sir, are a genius.
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Hardly, but I learned from the best. The most beautiful part? Once you transfer that $2k out of SBG over to Bookmaker, you deposit another $1k at SBG for another 100% bonus and they'll gladly accept your money. In fact, even if SBG knew what you were up to, they wouldn't care. You're using their fake money to make real money elsewhere.

Just please try this with caution and know it's not foolproof. You still need to know how to pick winners and have to be very disciplined to make it work. I'd sooner lay -400 on a ML favorite where the line was trending up from -300, than lay -500 on a ML favorite that was -600 earlier.
 
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Poptimus said:
Hardly, but I learned from the best. The most beautiful part? Once you transfer that $2k out of SBG over to Bookmaker, you deposit another $1k at SBG for another 100% bonus and they'll gladly accept your money. In fact, even if SBG knew what you were up to, they wouldn't care. You're using their fake money to make real money elsewhere.

Just please try this with caution and know it's not foolproof. You still need to know how to pick winners and have to be very disciplined to make it work. I'd sooner lay -400 on a ML favorite where the line was trending up from -300, than lay -500 on a ML favorite that was -600 earlier.
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Got it. They usually only do the 100% right before football season. But they do 50% or 20% throughout the year. Pretty easy way to make some extra cash throughout the year.
 
ssvir said:
WTF am I missing? If it goes to 3 then the moneyline will be -150/-155 (b/c 3 is a key number).

If you are picking LSU then that is the strategy but if you are picking Miami then you are thinking about this wrong.
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I'm not playing the ML. But I am no Vegas oddsmaker. LOL. My thought was that if the spread goes to -3 then the lay would go down. Maybe I am wrong. IDGAF I just want the lay to go down however it works out. -110 sounds a lot better then -130. For every $130 that I lay I make $100 doesn't sound like great money to me. Give me the $110 or $115 to make $100.
 
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Jassid82 said:
I'm not playing the ML. But I am no Vegas oddsmaker. LOL. My thought was that if the spread goes to -3 then the lay would go down. Maybe I am wrong. IDGAF I just want the lay to go down however it works out. -110 sounds a lot better then -130. For every $130 that I lay I make $100 doesn't sound like great money to me. Give me the $110 or $115 to make $100.
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Not trying to bust your balls but ...

If you are betting Miami to just win (no point spread) then you are betting the moneyline and want the -2.5 line to go lower (thereby reducing the -130).

If you are betting Miami minus the points, then you also want the spread to go lower (thereby giving LSU less points).

Bottom line is as a Miami bettor you want the point spread lower.
 
Jassid82 said:
-130 lay is a lot for a single college game. Bet $910 to just make $700 or bet $990 and make $900.. I want -3 so maybe it will go down to -110 or -115. Don't get me wrong, I suspect we will beat them by at least a TD as I have seen no evidence whatsoever that their offense will be any better then last year and in fact it probably will be worse. And if I can lay less and win more, all the better.
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It's not a winning strategy to lay -130 for -2.5 when you can lay -110 for -3. Is half a point worth 20 cents? No. Even on the 3 which is the most valuable number for football spreads.

You can use a half point calculator at sportsbookreview.com to find out that the "3" will push 9.79% of the time on an NFL game with a spread of -3. So laying -130 is spending 20 cents more for just an added 9.79% probability. Not worth it.
 
ssvir said:
Not trying to bust your balls but ...

If you are betting Miami to just win (no point spread) then you are betting the moneyline and want the -2.5 line to go lower (thereby reducing the -130).

If you are betting Miami minus the points, then you also want the spread to go lower (thereby giving LSU less points).

Bottom line is as a Miami bettor you want the point spread lower.
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This is not true at all. As a Miami bettor, if I lay -2.5 or -3, I then want to see that spread climb as high as possible after I bet.
 
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