FSU testing the waters?

[Fluffhead]

Bro we don't even know if Rad was for it. 14 universities with 14 school presidents and hundreds of BOT members with 14 AD's voted for this over a decade ago. This is a BOT/Presidential level decision with the ACC commissioner with input from AD and many others. He might have been the CATALYST for this for all we know, but he might have been very, very against it privately. Going after our current AD because he was an AD at another ACC school back when this was signed is reckless. We really don't know. One layer of a very complicated onion.

Agreed, but I think I said that. I have no idea if he thought it was futile, a good idea, the school's president overrode him, if they had an exit option or what. But the reality is, he did sign off on it when he had a lot of negotiating power. At that time, I don't know what the alternatives or exit options were, but committing to a 20 year GoR is nuts no matter which way you spin it and sitting idle since then is not much better.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

Agreed, but I think I said that. I have no idea if he thought it was futile, a good idea, the school's president overrode him, if they had an exit option or what. But the reality is, he did sign off on it when he had a lot of negotiating power. At that time, I don't know what the alternatives or exit options were, but committing to a 20 year GoR is nuts no matter which way you spin it and sitting idle since then is not much better.

We can't have it both ways, though. You can't say that we don't even know if he thought it was a good idea or if the BOT /Pres overrode him and then blame him for "signing off."

He might have agreed with you. I assure you his counsel was valued, but there is no way he was the decision-maker, even for Clemson. It might not have even been an initially unanimous vote among the schools, privately.

Lots of "if's."

 

[sdaly12]

The Big 12 and PAC 12 leftovers would not be a super conference. It would be the AAC on steroids.

I don’t think there would even be a single team in the conference capable of recruiting at a Top 15 level.

money alone says super conference, 2.3B$. this whole conference realignment will boils down to 3-4 super conferences.
i hope we get a seat at the table...... cost of being mediocre for 20 years

 

[Ispyin]

This is like an iceberg. The "sports reporters" only see the part that is above water. The vast majority of the object is below the surface of the water.

There's a lot going on right now, even if it's not reported on. Only when certain things happen very rapidly will some people realize the groundwork has been building for years.

But but but I was told I was wrong about Miami and ratings and…

 

[Empirical Cane]

Why? You can calculate out 4 years you break even, year 5 you're up $30 million. I'm sure there could be other things to consider here, but given that path, why would it be such a bad idea?

Using federally subsized ACO, Research Cancer Center, and Medicare "profits" to pay for the athletic department* in this manner is immoral, unethical, and illegal.

We had some message board geniuses here in a previous thread challenge me on those points.

It didn't end well for them.


Furthermore, in his very first interview after Mario was hired, Rudy the Assassino EMPHATICALLY stated not a single $ of UHealth funds support the athletic program in this way. He actually said it twice. If they were so stupid to do so, a whistleblower would eventually turn them in a collect $MMs in reward-share.

But really, what do I know? I'm merely dumb housekeeper.




I will say this...

University of Miami used to be an institution with a medical school embedded into a Level I trauma center / research center.

Now...

UHealth ia a growing regional healthcare institutional system that could see $1B in "profits" next few years that happens to have a small private school in Coral Gables attached to it.


*or any University department/program nor directly related to medical education/operations

 

[Ispyin]

Using federally subsized ACO, Research Cancer Center, and Medicare "profits" to pay for the athletic department* in this manner is immoral, unethical, and illegal.

We had some message board geniuses here in a previous thread challenge me on those points.

It didn't end well for them.


Furthermore, in his very first interview after Mario was hired, Rudy the Assassino EMPHATICALLY stated not a single $ of UHealth funds support the athletic program in this way. He actually said it twice. If they were so stupid to do so, a whistleblower would eventually turn them in a collect $MMs in reward-share.

But really, what do I know? I'm merely dumb housekeeper.




I will say this...

University of Miami used to be an institution with a medical school embedded into a Level I trauma center / research center.

Now...

UHealth ia a growing regional healthcare institutional system that could see $1B in "profits" next few years that happens to have a small private school in Coral Gables attached to it.


*or any University department/program nor directly related to medical education/operations

You better call 911 I need to report a murder

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Using federally subsized ACO, Research Cancer Center, and Medicare "profits" to pay for the athletic department* in this manner is immoral, unethical, and illegal.

We had some message board geniuses here in a previous thread challenge me on those points.

It didn't end well for them.


Furthermore, in his very first interview after Mario was hired, Rudy the Assassino EMPHATICALLY stated not a single $ of UHealth funds support the athletic program in this way. He actually said it twice. If they were so stupid to do so, a whistleblower would eventually turn them in a collect $MMs in reward-share.

But really, what do I know? I'm merely dumb housekeeper.




I will say this...

University of Miami used to be an institution with a medical school embedded into a Level I trauma center / research center.

Now...

UHealth ia a growing regional healthcare institutional system that could see $1B in "profits" next few years that happens to have a small private school in Coral Gables attached to it.


*or any University department/program nor directly related to medical education/operations

It’s still an institution with a medical school embedded into a Level I trauma center / research center. It’s just had the additional success of a regional healthcare concern which has expanded significantly and done very well.

 

[da truth]

Florida State Board of Trustees request buyout figure to leave ACC, staggering number returns

The idea of Florida State leaving the ACC first came up during a board of trustees meeting on Friday where Alford was asked about it.

www.on3.com

Florida State AD worried about revenue gap, ACC buyout discussed at board of trustees meeting, per report

...

247sports.com

***** they can’t afford toilets without tax dollars. Unless a conference is going to foot the bill they’re here for a hot min

 

[Empirical Cane]

It’s still an institution with a medical school embedded into a Level I trauma center / research center. It’s just had the additional success of a regional healthcare concern which has expanded significantly and done very well.

U Miami as an institution is now a speck, a rounding error, in importance to U Health organizationally.

Don't get me wrong, the U brand is the public facing branding, but we now have two very divergent organizations under "one umbrella" with wholly different missions and pressures.

 

[Empirical Cane]

University of Miami to Pay $22 Million to Settle Claims Involving Medically Unnecessary Laboratory Tests and Fraudulent Billing Practices

The University of Miami (UM) has agreed to pay $22 million to resolve allegations that it violated the False Claims Act by ordering medically unnecessary laboratory tests, and submitting false claims through its laboratory and off campus hospital based facilities (“Hospital Facilities”).

www.justice.gov

 

[NE Canes]

We should find a way to make the ACC attractive for TV audiences. Bringing in ND is only a half measure. We should find get BYU, WVU, TCU, or Okie St. to join as well.

Also scheduling better ooc games would help.

Or maybe the basketball schools should take football seriously instead of coasting off of Clemson and FSU for the past two decades.

Miami is part to blame for this as well. Get serious about football instead of crying about money while sitting back and leeching off others. They want a better deal while they put out below average football. If people wanted to watch their pitiful programs they would make more money.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

U Miami as an institution is now a speck, a rounding error, in importance to U Health organizationally.

Don't get me wrong, the U brand is the public facing branding, but we now have two very divergent organizations under "one umbrella" with wholly different missions and pressures.

It’s literally called The University of Miami Health System.

Of course, the actual university has the typical university mission, whereas the health system has a community health mission, but they are inexorably intertwined, it’s more than just branding. There are also other parts of the conglomerate such as the medical school, the relationship with Jackson Memorial as a teaching hospital, the VA, Bascom, etc. It’s much more than what you’re just saying.

But of course you are an expert on every topic known to mankind, so I’m sure you’ll have more sputum to expectorate about this subject.

 

[Empirical Cane]

It’s literally called The University of Miami Health System.

Of course, the actual university has the typical university mission, whereas the health system has a community health mission, but they are inexorably intertwined, it’s more than just branding. There are also other parts of the conglomerate such as the medical school, the relationship with Jackson Memorial as a teaching hospital, the VA, Bascom, etc. It’s much more than what you’re just saying.

But of course you are an expert on every topic known to mankind, so I’m sure you’ll have more sputum to expectorate about this subject.

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Ok.

My guess next ten years UHealth gets spun off entirely as a separate legal entity.

HHS probably starts looking also as to why UHealth's entire accreditation is under Sylvesters Cancer Research.

Go Canes.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Ok.

My guess next ten years UHealth gets spun off entirely as a separate legal entity.

Go Canes.

 

[Empirical Cane]

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Defintely the 2d latter.

 

[simplycanes]

Ok.

My guess next ten years UHealth gets spun off entirely as a separate legal entity.

HHS probably starts looking also as to why UHealth's entire accreditation is under Sylvesters Cancer Research.

Go Canes.

If you're a hospital and you're profitable sell yourself

 

[Empirical Cane]

If you're a hospital and you're profitable sell yourself

Healthcare mergers are nasty minefields, particularly at system level.

 

[mcnaire2004]

I just can't imagine that there's room in the SEC or B1G for us.

We aren't able to get out of the ACC anyway. Didn't I read somewhere it's like 300 million to get out of ACC+media rights?

This whole conversation is a waste of time.

 

[Ispyin]

Ok.

My guess next ten years UHealth gets spun off entirely as a separate legal entity.

HHS probably starts looking also as to why UHealth's entire accreditation is under Sylvesters Cancer Research.

Go Canes.

Very much doubt that spin off. That’s not what has happened in other markets where similar things have evolved prior to how uhealth evolved . Ucla is a specific example but not the only one. In fact USC in same market might be the better but same analogy as they run a Big city owned hospital as well

 

[Ispyin]

I just can't imagine that there's room in the SEC or B1G for us.

We aren't able to get out of the ACC anyway. Didn't I read somewhere it's like 300 million to get out of ACC+media rights?

This whole conversation is a waste of time.

Clueless are you yesss